If Horizon Had A $1 Monthly Fee

Once people quit there too I hope theres a "retail" for you to come back to.

didn't ***on it

Once people quit there too I hope theres a "retail" for you to come back to.

didn't ***on it

its really the lowest you can go in any debate

The rest of what you said is garbage

You can't compare a completely different games

Saying what someone said is garbage is not a personal attack

Retail and Horizon are not two different games.

If you supported retail and didn't ***on it

The irony of you posting this in a thread shitting on private servers is quite profound.

aying based solely on the content

They do have a negative effect on it which will only worsen over time.

People are such sheep sometimes and following the herd.

It isn't much of a stretch considering I frequent the forum .

I find it sad thinking about it that people who literally played this game for over a decade of their lives and had so much fun and memories can treat it like garbage and have no respect for it. SE really did a number on it to create so many jaded players, what a shame.

Agree with you that the games appeal to different people, but I think the venn diagram of people who want to play retail and want to play Horizon is not 2 separate circles.

Also keep in mind that if Horizon (and other private servers) didn't exist those people would either have to play another game or play retail. So the fact that these servers exist definitely takes away players in the center, and probably a fair bit from the "horizon only" group. Maybe those people in your linkshell WOULD'VE picked up retail if Horizon didn't exist, but since it did they just went for Horizon and stayed there.

I personally don't have any grievance against the server or the people who choose to play there. Barring omniscience, we'll never know whether it created or reduced demand for retail, by getting new people into it or by keeping players on private instead of on retail, but I think it's undeniable that it has had an impact on retail activity.

Then, of course, people on retail can't find community because the players quit to play private, or never joined at all because they're on a private server, so it snowballs.

Because not everyone is as emotionally invested to the game or SE as you, and can see it for what it is - a game. When a game stops being fun, folks stop playing. When something is fun, they keep playing. Right now retail isn't fun for most folks so they've opted out for something they find more enjoyable. The fact that you can't wrap your head around that is painful to watch lol

The content is what makes the game. A day spent playing Horizon is very different than a day spent playing retail.

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Most FOLK enjoy the real game, thats why they are paying real money to play and it has a higher population. Can you wrap your head around that? The fact, undeniable fact, that more people are PAYING to play retail vs that free server.

If retail FFXI was as amazing as you say it is (a similar enough but superior version of Horizon), it'd hold up on its own and maybe even create new players taken from the competition like it had in years past. People aren't bashing retail with 0 reason just for the sake of propping up a private server when no one has any vested interest in either. I think we'd all love to play retail if it was able to hold people's interest. Lastly, It's $12, life isn't fair, and you can play the free version too if you want. Direct your vitriol at the company who left the game in shambles, not the players who are just trying to look for the most fun/entertaining version of a game they can play in their free time lol

do you think they will pay money to play retail or are they going to go to a free to play server

its a fake imitation

the same game

My issue was with those people who quit and who claim to be having the time of their lives

STOP TALKING ABOUT HAVING FUN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

My issue was with those people who quit and who claim to be having the time of their lives, going across multiple platforms to ***on the real game and persuade players away from it. I already shown screenshots of it happening, it happens every single day. As noted before, I frequent XI videos on youtube and it happens all the time. Why can't they enjoy their fake FFXI and leave retail alone? They are just expediting any potential loss in revenue for XI and the possibility of it getting shut down etc. Maybe they should take their own advice and leave retail alone.

Then you have nothing to worry about because by your own words, retail is more popular than the 'buggy free version' and Horizon isn't really a threat at all of removing players since it's been out a year and retail is alive and well. Why even be upset about its existence if it's not even doing what you feared it'd do?

You're literally doing the same from the opposite angle, if not going harder than them. You could just not respond on anything Horizon related, seeing as anytime you do it extends the threads life by 7 pages because you're takes are so goofy people can't help but respond.

There has never been any ad push. We have never paid a single dollar for advertising or to any influencer. Anything you see on YouTube or other social media is likely due to your own browsing habits, and you have no one to really blame for that but yourself.