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Ixion Lore and Proc Attempts
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 00:39:56
Got the chest boys!
Entered RDM/DNC on firesday. Trusts: ulmia joachin and apururu(UC). I pulled him in between the NE and SE of the square rooms and killed him @ red dot on map. It took a solid 25 minutes to kill him, as I wanted to make sure I got well over 10 aura pops.
Just like Cthaeh was saying, I let it get its aura up at LEAST ten times, then aura drops once it uses either lightning horn (can't remember exact name), damsel memento, or wrath of zeus. It still uses other JAs while aura is up but they don't remove it iirc. I kept distract 3 and dia 3 up on it. The ONLY weapon skill I spammed was fast blade LOL That kept damage well under 10k a hit. The highest # I recall was ~6k. Standard rdm buffs: NO enspell; haste 2, pro5, shell5, temper 2, barfira and baramnesra (amnesia is annoying on this thing), gain-dex, composure, phalanx 1. At certain points in fight, joachim and apururu died from archeron stance. At times he would glow purple and immediately use wrath of zeus or one of the other two iirc.
Theories: using a WS that does too much damage might interfere with him putting up aura?
To test: I don't know if all of the 3 JAs he uses count toward the 10+ JAs to take off his purple aura - assuming this is the number required to proc chest.
Main hand Naegling, offhand almace. No other weapon skills used or any source of magic damage aside from dia 3, and pebbles that joachim throws? LOL Anyhow, definitely onto something here. I can see a bunch of melees just whittling it down with white damage and getting it to drop chest from spamming aura moves.
If there's any info you want/need to know, feel free to ask. I tried to put as much info down as I could recall. Some of the fast blades were during his tp moves some weren't.
By klayy 2023-07-31 00:54:52
gj! I only got aura 5 times but if I can figure out how to do it, ill give it a try tomorrow.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 00:57:57
gj! I only got aura 5 times but if I can figure out how to do it, ill give it a try tomorrow. How long did it take lol
It took I think around 30 minutes to kill him LOL I wasn't in a rush though. I don't know if the WS damage interferes with him putting aura up? The next thing I think I would try is to quickly get his health down to 25%, assuming he follows regular mob mechanics where they tp @1k instead of 3k at over 75% health. Then, just whittle away, count 10 aura drops and kill.
By Shichishito 2023-07-31 01:24:19
could also be even vs uneven amount of aura triggers or maybe trigger all aura ending weaponskills?
If aura triggering is key i imagine negative subtle blow equipment like Barbarian Mittens(-4), Sharpeye Mantle(-6) and Bruiser's earring(-10) as well as multi hit weapons might help.
By klayy 2023-07-31 01:46:40
Dumber question... how did you get your screenshots to just go right in the post? lmao When I wanted to do that it made me use a URL. Was weak.
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By Shichishito 2023-07-31 01:54:23
you need to format it like this:
[ img]link here[ /img]
without the spaces.
the picture button above does that for you but sometimes the upload pages already provide links with certain brackets like [ html] [ /html] i believe, so you want to make sure to use the right ones.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-31 04:05:46
Interesting thing from twitter Looks like he was able to break the horn?
Are you guys sure you don't miss horn breaking when you are getting chests?
Looks like he got metal too
Also looks like he did similar thing
Very possible he simply read this forum.
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By klayy 2023-07-31 04:23:49
hmm so the WS isnt specific. the low dmg WS might be. Went in with a full group and just tried to melee it down. Think it only charged up 4-5 times though. Dont believe anyone WSed. But yeah.. i doubt we broke 10K with a melee hit
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By SimonSes 2023-07-31 04:49:02
I think illuminates picture above shows a broken horn?
Yeah kinda looks like it. I think horn broke at some point for Illuminate and Cthaeh, but maybe they were focused on something else and haven't noticed?
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By Odin.Bangla 2023-07-31 06:38:42
I counted the WS I did on one un-succesful kill. I did around 50 WS for 7-19k. So my assumption is that the WS have to be low consecutively to whittle down the horn. Maybe it has an internal counter and a spike damage WS resets it.
By Nariont 2023-07-31 06:56:21
If its not a set number of auras, could be that each aura raises the chances of horn breaking and thats still the deciding factor
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2023-07-31 08:15:06
Has anyone tried cycling the 8 elements to force his aura? Someone posted earlier that the Ixion seemed to respond to certain elements by charging the horn.
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Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 08:15:55
Awesome, I didn't notice the horn break when I did it, but I run ray tracing and renderings in the background for work when I play so i get a lot of graphic glitches
That was me posting about elements. I'm pretty sure it's 50k damage of one type thar causes it
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By Odin.Bangla 2023-07-31 08:29:06
I'm pretty sure it's 50k damage of one type thar causes it
I've melee'd and WS'd it down over the course of a 20 minute fight with just melee attacks and Savage Blade. Everything I did was the same source of damage. This is not the solution.
It makes more sense to actually look at the amount of auras because even during my 20 minute fight, it put up aura only 8 times.
Or as I said before, my WS did too much damage to trigger the horn to break during the aura.
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Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 08:45:48
I'm pretty sure it's 50k damage of one type thar causes it
I've melee'd and WS'd it down over the course of a 20 minute fight with just melee attacks and Savage Blade. Everything I did was the same source of damage. This is not the solution.
It makes more sense to actually look at the amount of auras because even during my 20 minute fight, it put up aura only 8 times.
Or as I said before, my WS did too much damage to trigger the horn to break during the aura.
I get what you are saying, but here is the caveat that I think you are missing. Dansel Memento drops his aura, but does not use his charge. Therefore you still have to wait for either lightning Spear or Wrath of Zeus again, even though he doesn't have his aura, before he can put it back up. If he drops aura with Daniel memento you have to stop all WS and wait for him to use these before you can trigger the next aura.
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-07-31 08:54:01
The take away from this seems to be it's more trouble than it's worth getting this metal lol.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-07-31 08:55:32
More trouble than it's worth for now. When they figure out how to do it in 60 seconds it won't be.
Have to lab to get it there though.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 09:30:53
I honestly was not watching to see if his horn broke. Maybe aura does increase odds it will break under a specific condition? It could be as simple as "WS under 10k while aura is up" to break horn, and therefore spawn chest upon defeat. I will repeat what I did and watch for horn break.
By SimonSes 2023-07-31 10:14:41
More trouble than it's worth for now. When they figure out how to do it in 60 seconds it won't be.
Have to lab to get it there though.
Afaik there is Aurum chest still in the dats that haven't been found. Aurum upstairs comes from killing all 4 NMs. Could be the same for basement (but requires to proc them all) and if aurum in basement has same boost like other chests, it will give 3k Galli and maybe even 100% +1 case.
Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 10:20:32
The aurum chest is from killing all nakuuls in all 4 basement areas.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-31 10:36:22
Was that an aurum or was it not just the seal chest for aminon thingy?
I don't think so. When you open the Seal chest you can see:
#E treasure coffer status report: 0/4 #?: 1/2.
Meaning there are 2 global chests for basement and seal chest is one of them, but we don't know the 2nd one and it's most likely the missing Aurum one.
By SimonSes 2023-07-31 11:49:23
Ah good spot, I missed that. Would be nice to confirm if 4/4 basement metals drops it, and if so, if it has any 100% drops.
If it's not that, then it's probably 4/4 chests in each zone.
Fenrir.Jinxs
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2023-07-31 13:42:26
I am gonna miss this thread when it's gone.
Your ixion's horn looks very different. I don't think it's clipping into the floor from that picture.
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Fenrir.Velner
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By Fenrir.Velner 2023-07-31 14:04:13
I'm gonna lol so hard when the proc is crit hits from the front to break the horn but it's been bugged this whole time. . . and Fujito thinks he can ninja-fix it without us noticing.
Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 14:49:19
I'm gonna lol so hard when the proc is crit hits from the front to break the horn but it's been bugged this whole time. . . and Fujito thinks he can ninja-fix it without us noticing.
It might actually be CRIT hits from the front while the Aura is up. This is actually the biggest thing I plan on testing today.
By klayy 2023-07-31 15:13:22
would make sense tbh. feel like every time he charges his horn weakens and then u just gotta break it.
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I had a revelation last night. What if Ixion from historical greek mythology has the actual hint/ answer to proccing Ixion? See below post copy and pasted from wikipedia and my guesses at possible Ixion proc:
Ixion married Dia,[1] a daughter of Deioneus (or Eioneus), and promised his father-in-law a valuable present. However, he did not pay the bride price, so Deioneus stole [2] some of Ixion's horses in retaliation. Ixion concealed his resentment and invited his father-in-law to a feast at Larissa. When Deioneus arrived, Ixion pushed him into a bed of burning coals and wood [3]. These circumstances are secondary to the fact of Ixion's primordial act of murder; it could be accounted for quite differently: in the Greek Anthology (iii.12), among a collection of inscriptions from a temple in Cyzicus, is an epigrammatic description of Ixion slaying Phorbas and Polymelos, who had slain his mother, Megara, the "great one".
Ixion went mad, defiled by his act; the neighboring princes were so offended by this act of treachery and violation of xenia that they refused to perform the rituals that would cleanse Ixion of his guilt (see catharsis)[4]. Thereafter, Ixion lived as an outlaw and was shunned. By killing his father-in-law, Ixion was reckoned the first man guilty of kin-slaying in Greek mythology.
This act alone would warrant Ixion a terrible punishment, but Zeus took pity on Ixion and brought him to Olympus and introduced him at the table of the gods. Instead of being grateful, Ixion grew lustful for Hera, Zeus's wife, a further violation of guest–host relations. Zeus found out about his intentions and made a cloud in the shape of Hera, which became known as Nephele (from nephos "cloud") and tricked Ixion into coupling with it. From the union of Ixion and the false-Hera cloud came Imbros or Centauros, who mated with the Magnesian mares on Mount Pelion, Pindar told, engendering the race of Centaurs, who are called the Ixionidae from their descent.
Ixion was expelled from Olympus and blasted with a thunderbolt [5]. Zeus ordered Hermes to bind Ixion to a winged fiery wheel [6] [7] that was always spinning. Therefore, Ixion was bound to a burning solar wheel for all eternity, at first spinning across the heavens, but in later myth transferred to Tartarus [8]. Only when Orpheus [9] played his lyre during his trip to the Underworld to rescue Eurydice did it stop for a while [10][11].
[1] Cast Dia on Ixion (Dia 1? Dia 2? Light Shot?)
[2] Steal, Mug, or Despoil the Horse?
[3] Craft near Ixion... so he can be pushed in?
[4] Cast onto Ixion, Cure, Erase, Viruna, Esuna, Holy, Holy II?
[5] Have a BLU use Thunderbolt (Learned from behemoth) on Ixion
[6] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion starting with Fire (Fire > Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice)
[7] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion ending with Fire
(Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice > Fire)
[8] Cast Banish on Ixion to banish him to Tartarus...
[9] Equip an Orpheus Sash While playing a harp song near Ixion
[10] Sing a song while engaged on Ixion using a harp
[11] Sing a song debuff on Ixion using a harp
Please let one of the above memes actually be the answer.
Happy (proc) hunting
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