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By klayy 2023-07-29 21:04:37  
Interesting stuff. Guess we got some work to do to try replicate and/or isolate it. Well tbf, at this point replicate is the thing lol.
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By klayy 2023-07-29 21:18:40  
Im disappointed Sylvie didnt say "wow great job going with all those Ra'Kaznar Metal #Fs!" after you got it :D

Im not sure I can narrow your theories down much if at all. I've done all leadens and all wildfires while making sure i didnt SC. But never all Savages that I can recall. Well i did all savages today on the pingpong horse but the RUN may or may not have done some stuff. minimal elem dmg lol im a cor man, all I do is elem dmg ive never really paid much focus to his aura so cant speak on that.

When you talk about 50K/30K/15K do you think you need to hit a WS or something in that vicinity or above at each %age? That seems a bit harsh but you know I've thought about those nukes in vagary where we literally had to gimp ourselves just to land one in range... so i mean its on the table.
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By Lakshmi.Armaddon 2023-07-29 21:32:59  
I've done it on MNK/WAR with just buffing trusts, spamming only white damage and Victory Smite (with light SC damage) and didn't get chest, but I honestly don't remember for sure how often it got aura up/which percentage, but looking at logs it looks like it used Wrath of Zeus twice (20:09:33 and 20:11:20)and Damsel Memento once (20:10:54).

Total timeline of fight, though I dunno what HP percentages were:

20:08:07 - pulled it with Chi Blast, ran it a ways
20:08:41 - began white damage
20:09:33 - Wrath of Zeus
20:10:54 - Damsel Memento
20:11:20 - Wrath of Zeus
20:11:33 - killed it

Proccing Aura once every 25% (or more?) is certainly worth testing more
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-29 21:36:16  
Light Skillchains might be what did it. I was intentionally going for 0 elemental damage when I went, which is why I did Savage Blade only. I put dia up the first time completely by accident, hit ALT 1 instead of CTRL 1 to savage blade at 64% and it dropped at like 15% so I thought why not put it back up.
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By klayy 2023-07-29 21:40:51  
I hesitate to ask if you meleed/killed it from a certain direction, but.. you know lol
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-29 21:41:56  
Also when I talk 50k/30k etc... What I mean is 50k damage was done by melee hits or WSs only, no elemental no spell damage. I had no DIA up for a while, and no minuet/chaos etc... so my Savage Blades were doing about 15k at 1250 on RDM/DNC. This is why I was originally saying every 3 Savage Blades while I was still fighting... Because 3 Savage Blades and the white damage in between was roughly ~50k.

He has a guard or something also that causes damage to be occasionally cut in half. Savage Blades were consistantly around 7850 / 15,700. These numbers stuck out as they were repeat and exact correlations (7850 is 50% of 15,700) and I repeated these values multiple times. Aura didn't seem to matter for this damage reduction, but something randomly causes it. I wrote it off as guarding.
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By drakefs 2023-07-29 22:02:15  
Perhaps you can not do more than X damage with a single action?

Your highest looks to be ~16k from Savage Blade.
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By Taint 2023-07-29 22:04:12  
We just tried RDM/DNC only on Horse. Savage blade, Distract, Dia 3 only. NO chest.

RDM had 5 songs left over from boss. Full party in zone but only RDM touched the horse.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-07-29 22:12:21  
drakefs said: »
Perhaps you can not do more than X damage with a single action?

Your highest looks to be ~16k from Savage Blade.

Could be.... Vagary has a similar mechanic.

Could be as simple as low damage WS only?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-07-29 22:15:09  
If it's as simple as "you have to ws, but do less than 20k max" then I was already right on page 3.

And that probably means Botuli or Naraka, whichever. is do ws's of more than 20k max, and why it's nearly 100% drop

Zero/Near zero skillchain/magic damage
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By Ranoutofspace 2023-07-29 22:30:46  
Killed it three times yesterday as RDM/NIN with Aeolian Edge, never did more 16,000, but did make skillchains doing upwards of 9300 damage. No chest. Use Enspell damage too but without Crocea on any fights. Maybe just physical damage, or one type of damage, but not more than 20k at once?
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-29 22:40:06  
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
I'm truly leaning to it being one of the following three:

Only one person engages and damages (including trusts)
Onle one source of damage other than melee hits
Force Aura X amount of times

https://ibb.co/34qwvYJ

This screenshot shows the buffs I had active during fight

DUDE! You rock!!!! Good fu**ing job man!!

I'm gonna go in and see if I can help narrow it down....

Maybe I'll experiment with one melee trust, make sure I don't WS, see if it still drops? Then that leans toward aura being a factor?

It really does seem to be a damage sort of deal - physical damage only and no skillchains probably?
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-29 23:05:55  
Taint said: »
We just tried RDM/DNC only on Horse. Savage blade, Distract, Dia 3 only. NO chest.

RDM had 5 songs left over from boss. Full party in zone but only RDM touched the horse.

It could be something like force Aura every x%, which 5 songs could potentially speed up your kill a little too fast. An important consideration, if it is related to the Aura... He cannot re-charge his horn until he uses Lightning Spear or Wrath of Zeus. What this would do is say, you have to force Aura between 75-100, 50-75, 25-50, AND 0-25. You get Aura in 75-100% but bring him to 50% before he discharged with LS/WoZ and miss that second window.

Also, did he have enspell up? I did not.
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By Asura.Masakh 2023-07-29 23:11:16  
The “#F treasure coffer status report 2/4 #?: 0/2. “ means you did another proc in F first right? Which one was it?
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By klayy 2023-07-29 23:18:42  
Guessing he did the bitzer chest. Ive killed horse before, during and after that box lol and even on that box lol

My guess is some percentage based aura manipulation, dmg checkpoints you gotta hit perhaps. idk i know nothing about the aura lol. But i'll have to find out.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-07-29 23:27:24  
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
It could be something like force Aura every x%, which 5 songs could potentially speed up your kill a little too fast. An important consideration, if it is related to the Aura... He cannot re-charge his horn until he uses Lightning Spear or Wrath of Zeus. What this would do is say, you have to force Aura between 75-100, 50-75, 25-50, AND 0-25. You get Aura in 75-100% but bring him to 50% before he discharged with LS/WoZ and miss that second window.

Also, did he have enspell up? I did not.

The Aura thing just sounds too complicated.... all the objectives are pretty basic. Nothing can be discredited at this point though.

Sounds like it took you a long time to kill from your description.

Could also be something like "don't kill until X mins after aggro" if it's not the low damage thing.

Physical WS and no SC seems confirmed okay at the very least. Testers should stick with that.
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By klayy 2023-07-29 23:28:50  
I agree it does sound a bit convoluted. Do other ixions out int he wild have a similar aura deal? Ive never noticed. But if like the reisenjima pop one operated in a similar fashion, at least the aura could be tested a bit more. Im assuming this isn't a thing at all but meh.
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By Asura.Masakh 2023-07-29 23:31:45  
I’ve taken jobs in for unlocks and taken massive amounts of time to kill it. My only source of dps for a couple of kills was iroha II.
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By Fenrir.Made 2023-07-29 23:32:11  
Had some time at the end of my run tonight so decided to see about the WS dmg < 20k + no SC. BRD savage blade with no att buffs kept it to a max of 19k. Had RUN meleeing for TP generation, but no other WS's were done. No chest. Aura was up in first and second 25% but I didn't see it go up between 25-50% & 0-25%.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-30 00:19:50  
No luck yet:

*Lightsday for both fights

RDM/NIN and no trusts. Faced me entire fight. White damage proc'd on crits sometimes for ~2k damage.

First attempt: was located in the very first room you enter F, brought him to hallway on the way forward (not backward toward start) utsusemi shadows up as much as possible.
Composure
Haste 2; pro5; shell5; phalanx1; gain-str; regen2; refresh3; aquaveil; temper 2; barthunder; hi-reraiser item used prior to engaging; Ionis effect (adoulin npc).

I had almace main and thibron offhand. Accuracy sucked so I swapped thibron for Gleti's knife.

I kept dia3; distract3; paralyze2; slow2 on him.

Only used CDC @3k tp (to keep AM3 up) and did ~22,000 damage per ws. The rest was only white damage.

Second attempt: same buffs. Only two enfeebles: dia3 and distract 3
***I'm 99.9% sure that I didn't para2 or slow2 on second attempt***
Naegling main and almace sub
respawned and spammed savage blade. ONE ws was over 20k (by accident). The rest were under 20k. Still no chest.

My best guess at this time is the WSs have to do less than a certain amount?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-07-30 00:20:29  
Fenrir.Made said: »
Had some time at the end of my run tonight so decided to see about the WS dmg < 20k + no SC. BRD savage blade with no att buffs kept it to a max of 19k. Had RUN meleeing for TP generation, but no other WS's were done. No chest. Aura was up in first and second 25% but I didn't see it go up between 25-50% & 0-25%.

His max WS was 15,700 I thought. Even 19k could have been too high.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-30 00:21:27  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
Fenrir.Made said: »
Had some time at the end of my run tonight so decided to see about the WS dmg < 20k + no SC. BRD savage blade with no att buffs kept it to a max of 19k. Had RUN meleeing for TP generation, but no other WS's were done. No chest. Aura was up in first and second 25% but I didn't see it go up between 25-50% & 0-25%.

His max WS was 15,700 I thought. 19k could of been too high.

Yea I'm going to bring my other character account in and try to do less than 10k WSs with same buffs and see.
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By Odin.Bangla 2023-07-30 03:11:42  
Wasn't able to replicate it. Struggling to not do damage over 15k as trusts switch to Minuets and Fury whenever they feel like it. Savage Bladed Ixion to death with no other damage or skillchains but WS had 19k spikes.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-30 03:14:43  
Lets see if Saevel will come and admit he was wrong in his 40 posts mocking us for trying to find the trigger, because Ixion IS FOR SURE BUGGED.
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By Pantafernando 2023-07-30 03:29:05  
Which day was the kill?

Its elemental section, maybe related
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-07-30 03:29:30  
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-30 07:08:22  
If it helps, weapons were crocea/demersal degen +1. Took tp bonus sword off for the fight that yielded chest
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By Cerberus.Josafath 2023-07-30 10:25:19  
Do you know what time of the day you engaged/killed?

I still have the theory that it can be related to Daytime/damage type and I havent seent anyone try that.

Maybe you killed it during slashing time and you only have to deal that type of dmg.

Piercing - 6:00 to 14:00
Slashing - 14:00 to 22:00
Blunt - 22:00 to 6:00
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By Asura.Yottaxa 2023-07-30 10:43:04  
Just chiming in with a few more dumb ideas here to rule out:
Dia3 was on it, is there any chance however incredibly small it actually died to a tick of dia 3? (I remember watching a ejin stream once where tc died to dia while the party was dead)
Was killshot with elemental DoT (light?) ruled out? (I assume so.)

Edit: Also noticed from the screenshot, it died while readying its move and never completed it.

Like I said, I'm full of dumb ideas.~~~
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-30 10:56:52  
Fought on watersday and killed around 15:00, but I wouldn't look too much into any of that as I've been doing this all week and have killed him around 35 times total. Also something that meticulous would've been discovered by accident many times.

It didn't die readying a tp move, just chat filters/lag makes it look so. He did rampant stance and I killed him two melee rounds after.

I was very careful not to do anything except exactly what I've said. Horn never broke, but did stop charging at 12%... since I was focused on figuring out that mechanic, I would say it has something to so with his aura. My leading bet is its force him to use aura until he can't anymore.
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