I pretty much kill him where I find him when im solo COR with trusts. I cant aggro anything even if I wanted to so dont have to drag him anywhere. The elementals are mixed up. There isnt like a dark ele room, a fire elem room. they're all jumbled.
Im kinda wondering like what criteria the game can actually verify. Like a lot of the sortie objs just seem to be them messing with stuff like kill this corse on this platform, kneel behind this door, kill pig after getting blue chest. Obviously they can track dmg %s of a certain type, kill orders, whether you four stepped or not, did you stare for 30 seconds. Just random stuff.
I wanna say 50% dmg from range (i.e. not ranged attacks but from like 10+ yalms out) would have happened. Also not sure if that's a thing now that element of botulus lore has been disproven. As a COR I can say that -- at least barring leaden and wildfire which Ive done -- killing it with just phys ranged WS or just /ras would be utterly painful. And it feels it's not really feasible in a timely fashion for any setup.
I wonder if literally throwing the kitchen sink at it would work lol. Like do as many types of dmg possible... melee hit, phys WS, magic WS, SC dmg, burst, free nuke, ranged, like just one of everything.
Flashing back to vagary, which I was not around for... i dont even know how that stuff was discovered. Like who decided a 6-step was something to try? Or like land a 5-10K nuke or w/e.
Ixion Lore And Proc Attempts
Ixion Lore and Proc Attempts
Shot in the dark but... has anyone actually pulled it instead of aggroing it? I mean there's eles everywhere so I imagine people aren't pulling it with magic. Voke isn't on the table for anyone without WAR or /WAR. I'm not sure I've ever bothered to shoot it. Like why bother? I can just face pull. But that is something the game can ID. Gears in nyzul isle.
klayy said: »
Shot in the dark but... has anyone actually pulled it instead of aggroing it? I mean there's eles everywhere so I imagine people aren't pulling it with magic. Voke isn't on the table for anyone without WAR or /WAR. I'm not sure I've ever bothered to shoot it. Like why bother? I can just face pull. But that is something the game can ID. Gears in nyzul isle.
Pulled it with stygian ash and would have shot it loads of times. If it were that simple we would see a lot more incidental chests. This thing has been killed tens of thousands of times and no one has really reported it, so it's fair to say it's not something simple that could be stumbled upon
Maybe we approached this from wrong angle. Let's take a step back to view the big picture:
This unicorn is basically just a amazing horse, i mean look at it.
Wouldn't give it a lick, although it's colored like raisins.
A stroke of it's mane should make it plain where the lemonade is made.
Sweet lemonade, Mmmm sweet lemonade.
This unicorn is basically just a amazing horse, i mean look at it.
Wouldn't give it a lick, although it's colored like raisins.
A stroke of it's mane should make it plain where the lemonade is made.
Sweet lemonade, Mmmm sweet lemonade.
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Shichishito said: »
Maybe we approached this from wrong angle. Let's take a step back to view the big picture:
This unicorn is basically just a amazing horse, i mean look at it.
Wouldn't give it a lick, although it's colored like raisins.
A stroke of it's mane should make it plain where the lemonade is made.
Sweet lemonade, Mmmm sweet lemonade.
This unicorn is basically just a amazing horse, i mean look at it.
Wouldn't give it a lick, although it's colored like raisins.
A stroke of it's mane should make it plain where the lemonade is made.
Sweet lemonade, Mmmm sweet lemonade.
Ooh, that’s dirty!
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Given the assumed relation between Naraka and Tortilla's direct/indirect damage, opposite to Botulus' enmity holding component.. loose hate? Solo hate(no other players, no trusts)?
Call for help?
Pop an old case next to it?
Relevant job emote?
Kite it to / kill it in that useless tail of a hallway?
Soultrapper 2000 it?
Pretty sure it's the soultrapper thing because I have gotten the chest from Ixion once, it was when basements were new, I went in as time mage for unlock, and fought him from above with float while snapping photos, didn't kill any pixies or anything else in that section.
Call for help?
Pop an old case next to it?
Relevant job emote?
Kite it to / kill it in that useless tail of a hallway?
Soultrapper 2000 it?
Pretty sure it's the soultrapper thing because I have gotten the chest from Ixion once, it was when basements were new, I went in as time mage for unlock, and fought him from above with float while snapping photos, didn't kill any pixies or anything else in that section.
KujahFoxfire said: »
Botulus doesnt have an enmity component
KujahFoxfire said: »
Bahamut.Skald said: »
KujahFoxfire said: »
Botulus doesnt have an enmity component
Fair, but you can have it bounce between people aslong as the damage is being done from the back, like between 2 DDs or whatever.
I was in a group that tried this, mostly because one person was lazy, and when you have an DD on each side, one of them is always doing DPS from the front (and that can throw off the ratio of Back damage and everyone is left wondering why they didn't get the temp item. Would not recommend.
Also, someone was extremely lazy once and stayed perpendicular to the front and back party members, and that made it impossible to guarantee the metal would be granted). What you condone in your groups is a slippery slope. You give an ML50 WAR an inch and they provoke a mile.
Has anyone tried killing all pixies in F then the Ixion last? Would be a pain but worth trying?
KujahFoxfire said: »
Given we have:
E) 50%+ rear damage
G) 50%+ direct damage
H) 50%+ indirect damage
It seems a safe bet that its nothing to do with any of the mobs around Ixion and is going to be some kind of "do 50%+ of x type damage" to match the other 3 basement NMs.
E) 50%+ rear damage
G) 50%+ direct damage
H) 50%+ indirect damage
It seems a safe bet that its nothing to do with any of the mobs around Ixion and is going to be some kind of "do 50%+ of x type damage" to match the other 3 basement NMs.
Just wanted to say I think its that too and wanted to remind (because I see people still mention it) I tried 50%+ ranged physical damage (from 20+ range) and magic ranged damage (Leaden from 20+ range).
Maybe 50% during specific TP moves or TP moves in general.
Btw to people trying LIGHT damage with LIGHT skillchain. It's not gonne be Light damage, but Fire (assuming BGwiki has right sdt values). You would need to do Transfixion to try light damage skillchain.
I would assume Ixion is likely going to be >50% damage of a specific type as well.
When testing for this though, remember there could be a positional requirement.
F and H bosses require no positioning, just direct or indirect damage.
A requires damage from behind, of any type as long as it's performed from behind, but SC damage doesn't count for it.
So when testing for damage types on Ixion, make sure you stay on the same position related to Ixion when performing damage.
Otherwise we risk ending up excluding a specific damage type, when that damage type would've worked just fine if performed from the right direction.
When testing for this though, remember there could be a positional requirement.
F and H bosses require no positioning, just direct or indirect damage.
A requires damage from behind, of any type as long as it's performed from behind, but SC damage doesn't count for it.
So when testing for damage types on Ixion, make sure you stay on the same position related to Ixion when performing damage.
Otherwise we risk ending up excluding a specific damage type, when that damage type would've worked just fine if performed from the right direction.
Has anyone tried Calling For Help on Ixion?
(I mean....this is SE we're talking about)
(I mean....this is SE we're talking about)
KujahFoxfire said: »
Did you even read any of the points above or do you just spout the first thing that comes into your mind?
This Ixion can suck it! Here are some things I did tonight and there was no chest.
Over 50% from 20+ yalms: COR used ranged attacks and Leaden Salute. Nothing.
Over 50% from behind: For the above attempt I also made sure to do it from behind similar to Botchi. Nothing.
Attack from all sides: WAR at the front, BRD & COR on either side, WHM at the back. Nothing
Kite Ixion a long distance and then kill: Kited from the Naakual room on the boss side, through the Veela room, into the back square. Nothing.
Initiate Combat without Aggro: Snuck up and used Provoke from behind before killing. Nothing.
Kill next to Bitzer: When kiting it, I decided to take it to the Bitzer. Nothing.
Darkness Skillchains: 3-stepped down with Disaster. Nothing.
3-Step with Prime: Used Disaster 3-step Darkness. Nothing.
Spam Dia (similar to how we're apparently supposed to weaken Tribuoulex): Spammed Dia for 1 minute before engaging on WHM and continued to Dia spam while killing him. Nothing.
This is the worst!
Over 50% from 20+ yalms: COR used ranged attacks and Leaden Salute. Nothing.
Over 50% from behind: For the above attempt I also made sure to do it from behind similar to Botchi. Nothing.
Attack from all sides: WAR at the front, BRD & COR on either side, WHM at the back. Nothing
Kite Ixion a long distance and then kill: Kited from the Naakual room on the boss side, through the Veela room, into the back square. Nothing.
Initiate Combat without Aggro: Snuck up and used Provoke from behind before killing. Nothing.
Kill next to Bitzer: When kiting it, I decided to take it to the Bitzer. Nothing.
Darkness Skillchains: 3-stepped down with Disaster. Nothing.
3-Step with Prime: Used Disaster 3-step Darkness. Nothing.
Spam Dia (similar to how we're apparently supposed to weaken Tribuoulex): Spammed Dia for 1 minute before engaging on WHM and continued to Dia spam while killing him. Nothing.
This is the worst!
50%+ empyrean weaponskill kill?
Clearly only magic crits when its under aura can break the horn
Slightly distinct than what most people did, but tonight gonna try doing x% with only lv1 skillchain with WS from the element of current day. If no chest, then rematerialize with only lv1 skillchain with opposite element of current day.
I think this is a valid test because when people do lv2+ skillchain, maybe that second/third/fourth element could prevent the objective. I dont think i read people doing only a single element skillchain from WS (from immanecence i did a lot so no)
I think this is a valid test because when people do lv2+ skillchain, maybe that second/third/fourth element could prevent the objective. I dont think i read people doing only a single element skillchain from WS (from immanecence i did a lot so no)
Pantafernando said: »
Slightly distinct than what most people did, but tonight gonna try doing x% with only lv1 skillchain with WS from the element of current day. If no chest, then rematerialize with only lv1 skillchain with opposite element of current day.
I think this is a valid test because when people do lv2+ skillchain, maybe that second/third/fourth element could prevent the objective. I dont think i read people doing only a single element skillchain from WS (from immanecence i did a lot so no)
I think this is a valid test because when people do lv2+ skillchain, maybe that second/third/fourth element could prevent the objective. I dont think i read people doing only a single element skillchain from WS (from immanecence i did a lot so no)
When you make lv2 or lv3 skillchain, it hits with only one element and its not random. Light will be fire on this Ixion for example.
Anyway it would be really hard to make 50% damage from light damage WS if it's really 20% resistant rank against light. SC damage will be too low and you will make majority of damage with WSs and melee.
Fenrir.Velner said: »
This Ixion can suck it! Here are some things I did tonight and there was no chest.
Over 50% from 20+ yalms: COR used ranged attacks and Leaden Salute. Nothing.
Over 50% from behind: For the above attempt I also made sure to do it from behind similar to Botchi. Nothing.
Attack from all sides: WAR at the front, BRD & COR on either side, WHM at the back. Nothing
Kite Ixion a long distance and then kill: Kited from the Naakual room on the boss side, through the Veela room, into the back square. Nothing.
Initiate Combat without Aggro: Snuck up and used Provoke from behind before killing. Nothing.
Kill next to Bitzer: When kiting it, I decided to take it to the Bitzer. Nothing.
Darkness Skillchains: 3-stepped down with Disaster. Nothing.
3-Step with Prime: Used Disaster 3-step Darkness. Nothing.
Spam Dia (similar to how we're apparently supposed to weaken Tribuoulex): Spammed Dia for 1 minute before engaging on WHM and continued to Dia spam while killing him. Nothing.
This is the worst!
Over 50% from 20+ yalms: COR used ranged attacks and Leaden Salute. Nothing.
Over 50% from behind: For the above attempt I also made sure to do it from behind similar to Botchi. Nothing.
Attack from all sides: WAR at the front, BRD & COR on either side, WHM at the back. Nothing
Kite Ixion a long distance and then kill: Kited from the Naakual room on the boss side, through the Veela room, into the back square. Nothing.
Initiate Combat without Aggro: Snuck up and used Provoke from behind before killing. Nothing.
Kill next to Bitzer: When kiting it, I decided to take it to the Bitzer. Nothing.
Darkness Skillchains: 3-stepped down with Disaster. Nothing.
3-Step with Prime: Used Disaster 3-step Darkness. Nothing.
Spam Dia (similar to how we're apparently supposed to weaken Tribuoulex): Spammed Dia for 1 minute before engaging on WHM and continued to Dia spam while killing him. Nothing.
This is the worst!
At least 75% of those have been done already. You are wasting your Sortie time not reading the thread.
Has anyone actually tried to drain all of his MP yet?
Felgarr said: »
You give an ML50 WAR an inch and they provoke a mile.
Show us on the doll where the ML50 War touched you Felgarr.
SimonSes said: »
At least 75% of those have been done already. You are wasting your Sortie time not reading the thread.
No, I'm wasting my time by sharing information with you. Just being thorough and adding as much detail as possible.
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How sure are you all that someone's really gotten the chest directly from the Ixion?
Maybe it's like the fomor where you have to kill something after it.
Maybe it's like the fomor where you have to kill something after it.
I wouldn't take anyones word either. Saying "you" tried it definitely wouldn't stop me from finding out if you were wrong. It might shift priority but wouldn't rule it out based on someone elses findings.
Unreliable testers. Including the ones who claimed they got it.
Unreliable testers. Including the ones who claimed they got it.
Fenrir.Velner said: »
SimonSes said: »
At least 75% of those have been done already. You are wasting your Sortie time not reading the thread.
No, I'm wasting my time by sharing information with you.
I really don't understand people who reacts like that on completely neutral comment.
I said that in good will. We have this topic for a reason and that reason is to share our tests. With limited time in Sortie it's a huge waste of that time to retest something that was tested by few other people. If you want to retest something and don't waste the time in Sortie, maybe just add some factor, like ranged attack, but only from back or only from the front.
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