Prime WS Information, Testing, Discussion

Has anyone played with the Greatsword on RUN instead of DRK or WAR?

Looking for general impressions vs Lionheart. I imagine it passes it very quickly until you get to full buff scenarios.

It's a strong 1(technically 2 but ftp is mainly on 1st hit) hitter on a weapon class that lacks a strong 1 hitter outside of torc which run can't use, which leaves runs next best WS as reso which has an atk penalty on an atk starved job, i'd imagine it does very well compared to other run options. Even in high buff scenerios run has a better WSD set than an MA set thanks to nyame

I somewhat disagree there. Run is on adhemar set, so it has access to a very decent MA set when you’re not overly concerned with incoming damage

Just to see how it worked out, I played with Stage 3 Great Sword on a very-fresh 99 PLD/DRK (Nyame is R25, but didn't even have a WSD cape yet, and nearly zero JP), BRD and non-Idris GEO buffs + Qultada, was getting around 48k damage on Fimbulvetr on upper area trash mobs and around 60k on Hounds in G. Pretty dang respectable, IMO. Haven't tried it out on RUN yet but I'm optimistic :) I'm sure tossing in a real COR would make a pretty big difference, too (near-zero chance I was anywhere close to attack cap, so not really leveraging aftermath).

Epeolatry

I could see a fight where there are 2 Run DD's able to withstand elemental aoe and buffed, maybe there's a blm that gambit/rayke could work well with.

I know there's one fight where run uses axe to continue a skillchain.

You'd have to be Run main or die to get the prime great sword because Run and Epeolatry synergize so well for what the job is used for. I'm sure Prime great sword Run would be pretty badass though!

What SE should do... is make prime ws quests. Utilize those drites. Simple stuff like kill all four top bosses and all four bottom bosses + drites equals prime weaponskill of your choice.

Yeah our melee group runs with me a RUN.
It is pretty nice on RUN as well, its not going to put you on top of the parser all of a sudden but its good.
We run without a WAR so dmg is a bit skewed compared to other groups but from feeling alone its stronger than lionheart for sure (more consistent)
From memory i was hitting aroung 50-60k on the basemenet bosses.

Decided to do another imperator test with full buffs. Had soulvoice aria / bolster frailty for aita. Degei it was just marcato aria. Savage / black halos do way more but maybe with higher stage and high FTP itll get decent at stage 5? This is on a mlvl 50 rdm r25 nyame / empy feet PDL vr ring. Still not sure what stats are best for it yet so maybe there's room for improvement. With same buffs cor / bard were doing all over 80k savages on aita.


[20:54:50] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:54:50] Aita takes 68892 points of damage.
[20:54:57] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:54:57] Aita takes 64949 points of damage.
[20:55:02] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:55:02] Aita takes 59949 points of damage.
[20:55:08] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:55:08] Aita takes 61488 points of damage.
[20:55:12] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:55:12] Aita takes 59551 points of damage.
[20:57:12] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:57:12] The Haughty Dragoon takes 35051 points of damage.
[20:57:21] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:57:21] The Haughty Dragoon takes 56925 points of damage.
[20:57:34] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:57:34] The Haughty Ninja takes 65155 points of damage.
[20:57:41] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:57:41] The Haughty Dragoon takes 42844 points of damage.
[20:57:53] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:57:53] The Haughty Dragoon takes 33954 points of damage.
[20:58:04] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:58:04] The Haughty Ninja takes 66862 points of damage.
[20:59:43] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:59:43] The Demisang Deleterious takes 48391 points of damage.
[20:59:48] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[20:59:48] The Demisang Deleterious takes 51952 points of damage.
[21:00:16] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:00:16] The Demisang Warrior takes 59202 points of damage.
[21:00:27] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:00:27] The Demisang Red Mage takes 66647 points of damage.
[21:02:19] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:02:19] The Demisang Thief takes 69683 points of damage.
[21:05:43] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:05:43] Degei takes 33986 points of damage.
[21:05:50] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:05:50] Degei takes 41783 points of damage.
[21:05:56] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:05:56] Degei takes 63719 points of damage.
[21:06:01] Rhuna uses Imperator.
[21:06:01] Degei takes 59651 points of damage.

Wow thank you for the Imperator update because literally the Sword is what made me ask about the Great Sword. Thank you everyone for selling the greatsword, I play PLD and RUN but it would be cool to lazily flex into WAR and DRK when the situation required it.

Was this with or without the TP Bonus off hand?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Prime_Aftermath

Maybe you want to fill this page in.

started aita with 3k tp and was using tp bonus offhand. Also had warcry up from war fulltime during aita. only takes like 30 seconds to melee down aita they all die pretty fast... aria is pretty powerful lol.

I guess it's MND and DEX mod isn't so great (that is the stats correct)?

I gear for dex so maybe its gearing the wrong way... but its hard at stage 3 to do any good testing anyway.

It's not hard, but it's a sacrifice. I used 4 runs for dagger and still had no enough data, but at least I know it's low DEX/VIT wsc.

Horn is tested. I can help with Gaxe.

I was so close to picking GA, would love to see more testing.

turned in stage 4 gaxe / katana / gun / horn if anyone has instructions for testing ftp ect.

ftp is the easiest, just keep your tp consistent and go ws something outside starter cities without a neck piece until you get the lowest value twice or are certain the lowest and highest are a difference of 5%. then do the same with a fotia piece until you again get the lowest value twice or the difference of 5% again.

So the bullet was obtained from scavenge and was lost after 1 shot on cor. great design lol..

Something I do plan on trying with the Bow, though RNG will have a massive advantage over COR is adding +Recycle into the WS set for the Prime WS (my intent is to only use the r/e ammo for that WS). Its a shitty design at least for Corsairs, but I'm not too broken hearted over it as the base weapons really are quite potent- its not like they designed the weapons to only be on par with existing options when using that ammo.

terminus 1011 tp 18668
terminus 1011 tp add fotia neck 19389
terminus 1011 tp add boost dex/agi both gave 18973 (no fotia) boost vit/str/int/mnd /chr did nothing (no fotia)
terminus 1011 tp add indi agi (+45) 19248 (no fotia)
terminus 1011 tp add indi agi + boost agi 19552 (no fotia)

terminus 3000 tp 58316
add fotia neck 59075
3k boost agi 59276 (no fotia)
3k indi agi 60115 (no fotia)
3k indi agi + boost agi 61066 (no fotia)

str 329
dex 344
agi 419
int 316
mnd 305
chr 286
ws dmg 65%
pdl 10 from ring + AM 1 /3 if 1k am 1 if 3k am 3
cor sub nin mlvl 50 chrono bullets

since that's ranged there is no random 5% multiplier, that comes out to ~2.52 fTP at 1011, so probably 2.5 at 1K even. 3K would 7.5

would you be able to do the same for 2K?

first look would be 70% DEX and 70% AGI mod if we go by the 10% PDL AM3 for stage 4

2020 38567 no fotia
2020 38980 with fotia

I can get a sch out here to get exact tp if that will help ill give 1000 / 2000 exact values in a few min

All shots outside trueshot range

actually i forgot about true shot, do you know if that was active during your ws? if no true shot then 70% DEX 70% AGI looks correct

(151 + 300 + 48 + x) * 1.65 * (3.8 * 1.2) * 7.5 = 58316

x comes out to ~535, 535 / 0.7 = ~764 and you have 763 total DEX and AGI, the stats gave equal damage boost and no other stat gave a bonus.

2K looks like it's probably 5. I don't know what PDL you had there, though.

So 2.5/5/7.5 with 70% DEX and 70% AGI

was using same gear as before
1000 with fotia 19184
1000 without fotia 18471


2000 no fotia 37893
2000 with fotia 38632

yeah, 2.5 at 1K and 5 at 2K.

how many ws do u want at 1005 tp for disaster for /w fotia and without for good sample size?