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By IGDC 2022-04-20 10:02:23  
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By Autherius 2022-04-22 08:28:28  
Update to Ambu and VR in the preview just announced... I'd hope they are just keeping the big 20th event/content a surprise and we are in for a treat...otherwise I'll...continue to play and shut up.
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By llAKs0nll 2022-04-22 10:02:05  
Autherius said: »
Update to Ambu and VR in the preview just announced... I'd hope they are just keeping the big 20th event/content a surprise and we are in for a treat...otherwise I'll...continue to play and shut up.
I mean we know for certain Emp+3 otw and also Dark Relics. Anything beyond that is just a wild guess to my knowledge but I am excited for that which we alrdy know will eventually arrive. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2022-04-22 10:16:54  
Have they ever kept new or major content updates a surprise?

I wasn't around when Omen or Odyssey were introduced, but I seem to recall other major updates (expansions, mini-expansions, assaults, etc) were announced in advance.
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By AegParm 2022-04-22 10:21:54  
I expect a bunch of random text to be updated in all the zones and maybe a lockstyle shield.
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By Bahamut.Jedigamer 2022-04-22 10:23:21  
Expectations are low. Judging by lack of information, I think it's going to be a crossover or lockstyle item. Best case is they might have new campaigns (i.e., double Exemplar points).
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By IGDC 2022-04-22 10:24:05  
llAKs0nll said: »
Autherius said: »
Update to Ambu and VR in the preview just announced... I'd hope they are just keeping the big 20th event/content a surprise and we are in for a treat...otherwise I'll...continue to play and shut up.
I mean we know for certain Emp+3 otw and also Dark Relics. Anything beyond that is just a wild guess to my knowledge but I am excited for that which we alrdy know will eventually arrive. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

I must have missed the confirmation on Dark Relics. Is there a link to that?
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-22 10:29:36  
They're always like this, they put hints in the missions as to what the final zone is going to be but they never say it's coming till the patch notes.

They did this with Reisenjima, she kept saying it in missions but they never said it till they posted the notes.

As for endgame content, they never say till the patch or a week before in a teaser.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/46005/dev-tracker-news-discussions/27/
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By IGDC 2022-04-22 10:39:38  
Okay, not nothing actually certain but just a really good chance based off past events. That was my understanding too. It's just when I read "I mean we know for certain" I got excited that it was actually 100% confirmed. I still have plenty of stacks of 100s ready for it to drop^^
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-22 10:46:32  
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By llAKs0nll 2022-04-22 11:20:08  
IGDC said: »
llAKs0nll said: »
Autherius said: »
Update to Ambu and VR in the preview just announced... I'd hope they are just keeping the big 20th event/content a surprise and we are in for a treat...otherwise I'll...continue to play and shut up.
I mean we know for certain Emp+3 otw and also Dark Relics. Anything beyond that is just a wild guess to my knowledge but I am excited for that which we alrdy know will eventually arrive. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

I must have missed the confirmation on Dark Relics. Is there a link to that?
The Confirmation itself resides in the Fact that they exist in the Storyline to begin w/. I never said we getting upgraded Relics nor New WS but it’s very obvious that the Storyline itself revolves around the existence of such Relics. Anything beyond that is up for speculation since nobody knows but I do expect something to come out of SE showcasing those Wpns via the CS. Maybe the whole point of their existence is indeed pointless but for at least the Plot itself in the Storyline those Dark Relics are actually indeed Confirmed otherwise we wouldn’t even be talking about such atm in anticipation of what it all could bring.
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Okay, not nothing actually certain but just a really good chance based off past events. That was my understanding too. It's just when I read "I mean we know for certain" I got excited that it was actually 100% confirmed. I still have plenty of stacks of 100s ready for it to drop^^
No. There is no factual confirmation suggesting we are getting New Wpns nor New versions of old Relics let alone any New WS. Yet for Storyline purposes Dark Relics exist and that means that future content via Storyline &/or New Items revolves around their existence as well if the latter does indeed occur.
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By Shiva.Haldarn 2022-04-22 12:34:22  
Maat in the announcement picture. Level Cap increase confirmed. Level to 199 in Abyssea-Divergence!

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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-22 13:07:09  
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I would plan the REMAKE this way.

I would release it in UNREAL ENGINE 5, for PS5, SERIES-X AND PC. With a minimum of Specs 3.5ghz, 8 core cpu / 16 virtual cores, 16 gb ram, 10 Teraflops GPU and a speed 2.5 GBS SSD. For people who don't have "Money to buy a GAMER pc" just buy a PS5 DIGITAL at 399. "It will not be released for SERIES-S, XBOX-X, PS4-PRO" to avoid hw-limitations in the future.

The base game would cost 60 USD and each expansion would cost 50 USD.

January to June 2023 FFXI base = 60 USD
July to December 2023 Rise of zilart = 50 USD
January to June 2024 Chains of promathia = 50 USD
July to December 2024 Treasures of Aht Urhgan = 50 USD
January to June 2025 Wings of the goddess = 50 USD
July to December 2025 Seekers of Adoulin = 50 USD
January to June 2026 Unity, escha, Dynamis D, Omen, odyssey etc. = $50

The errors that would obviously be CORRECTED

1.- To enter abyssea you will need LV75 "NEVER ENTER LV 30"

2.- The atmas and crour buffs will be removed in "Abyssea" the content will be mid-core

3.- In VW the proc system will be eliminated, the atmas and buffs will be eliminated.

4.- In Seekers of Adoulin, WEAPONS with combat skills will not be introduced and the REMA will be indisputable top, plus the content will be midcore and will not be casualized.

5.- In the current content, it will be thought for 6, 12, 18 versions, without BUFFS in play, everything will be midcore.

6.- In 2026, all content from previous expansions will have an ILV 140-145 mode with horizontal progression coexisting between all expansions.

7.- All the REMAS will be BALANCED so that their difference in damage is less than 2% and ALL them will be viable.

8.- Every 2 years expansions like WoW will be released if the title manages to maintain at least 500k-750k active players and a sub 15 USD FFXIV & FFXI model will be created to support the game

9.- The current FFXI servers will still be active for people who are not "interested in the remake" even if the remake will have the SAME combat system, progression, gear, items etc.

10.- In the FUTURE expansions the classic races of the medieval tales would be added. "ORCS" "DWARFS" "ELVES", plus races from other Final fantasy games, like the RONSO from FFX, the VIERA from FFXII etc.

11.- Although all the content would be planned to be played in 6, 12, 18. A point system would be added, in which you can advance "Solo". Example

Inside of OMEN you can get a BODY-AF with a group in 5 runs.
There will be an OMEN solo player version, in which you can get that body in 40 hours of grinding with your "Trusts"

ABSOLUTELY all the content can be farmed alone, but obviously it will be 40, 80, 120, 160 hours, depending on the "Quality".

12.- Group finder, duty finder, cross server parties, multiple channels, etc. would be added. Everything a modern 2023 game would have.

13.- The game will include EASY-ANTI-CHEAT

14.- Naoki YOSHIDA or JEFF KAPLAN will lead the project of course.

15.-The game will have a modern "Quest" system like FFXIV, plus new dungeons and raids obviously. With horizontal Gear that can co-exist with the classic content of the game.

$360 to play a 20 year+ old game with no new content being added.... did you get dropped on your head as a child? 500k-700k active players to release expansion *** LOL, ignore my previous question i found the answer to it.
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By llAKs0nll 2022-04-22 13:31:46  
Siren.Sandraa said: »
I would plan the REMAKE this way.

I would release it in UNREAL ENGINE 5, for PS5, SERIES-X AND PC.

14.- JEFF KAPLAN will lead the project of course.


What a GRAND idea. Bring back Kaplan!

Though the Pricing is indeed slightly Suspect <_<
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-04-22 13:36:08  
so we evolved from "expectations" to demands lists or straight up rebuilds.


I second the comment about being dropped on one's head as a child. I had a high school friend who as a 4 year old got hit in the crown of her skull by a Jart (a lawn dart) thrown by her older brother, and she was still able to live a very productive life. Hold on to hope, and stop creating lists of things other games half the age have but this one doesn't. Either enjoy what we've got and understand it for what it is....or move to one of those other games you wish FFXI was.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-04-22 13:45:19  
It stopped being the expectations thread and became just another wish list and daydreams thread by the middle of page 1
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By Aoibhe 2022-04-22 15:11:20  
People who don’t realise the game is on life support are beyond insane. They said they literally have to justify their budget on an annual cycle. There are no plans or development proposals beyond that. Get a grip on reality.
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-04-22 18:10:21  
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People who don’t realise the game is on life support are beyond insane. They said they literally have to justify their budget on an annual cycle. There are no plans or development proposals beyond that. Get a grip on reality.

Normally, yes. However, they were approved for the 3 years with TVR, reforged empyrean and the like being in the plans to justify the expense.
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By Bismarck.Dekusutaa 2022-04-22 18:23:14  
Likely
-Empyrean upgrade path/new battle content tied to this
-New zones from story quest
-new gear/armor sets

Possible
-Backend revamps that improves overall performance
-new in-game assets such as characters, animations, jobs (see next item) created specifically for 20th anniversary content/new expansion
-new paid expansion content with new jobs (chemist?) to roll out over the next 3-4 years (to justify next set of budgeting for staff)

Unlikely
-HD remaster done like their mid to low effort FFXII remaster
-server merges
-final shutdown timeline

Dream
-Full remaster
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By Whynez 2022-04-22 19:06:08  
I'm expecting disappointment, and maybe like some shitty slideshow an intern put together.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-04-22 19:09:06  
I'm releasing a Remake of Tetris using the Unreal Engine, modern 3d modeling, a new feature called "Mulligan Mode" where you can take back your last move, and new color schemes. First edition will be a 6x10 grid for $50. About a year later I will release the "Premium Edition" that includes a 10x24 grid and a special edition soundtrack made by PitBull. That addition will cost $60, and can be bundled with a new crossover event with Minesweeper. Get the Premium Edition Tetris Remake™ and add a character model made by Play-Dough of a Minesweeper Mine for an addition $40- a savings of $20!
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-22 19:11:46  
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
$360 to play a 20 year+ old game with no new content being added.... did you get dropped on your head as a child? 500k-700k active players to release expansion *** LOL, ignore my previous question i found the answer to it.

It would be a "Remake" I think you forgot to read the part when I said it would be made for PS5, SERIES-X and PCs with 10 teraflops of power. The animations, graphics, lighting, shaders would look according to a 2023 title and you also forgot to read, It will be created the unreal engine 5.

If it would cost 50 dollars every 6 months and 360 in 3 years. Most of all of us pay for 2-3 accounts and it's already 36-39 bucks per month, plus most of the FFXI players are people over 30-40 years old. Which have much more resources than the "Children" who play fortnite.

I don't think so much hostility is necessary, just because you don't like the idea, relax.

Nope i read that but what you are suggesting is a remaster..... my point still stands no new content, no new story and not worth the price. 3 accounts is $1080 and i dont think many people playing XI are going to want to spend another $1080 just for some shiny graphics.... hell i can just go play XV if i want to look at something pretty with no substance.
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By Felgarr 2022-04-22 19:12:49  
Aoibhe said: »
People who don’t realise the game is on life support are beyond insane. They said they literally have to justify their budget on an annual cycle. There are no plans or development proposals beyond that. Get a grip on reality.

I agree with you, but there's a slight correction to be made. The purpose of the 20th anniversary announcement 3 years ago, also mentioned that they secured 3 years worth of funding (and therefore could retain developers who expect to work on FFXI for that time). Realistically, that development time is probably not wholly devoted to FFXI, as we know...but still. It's not just a year-over-year investment.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-22 19:40:27  
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
so we evolved from "expectations" to demands lists or straight up rebuilds.


I second the comment about being dropped on one's head as a child. I had a high school friend who as a 4 year old got hit in the crown of her skull by a Jart (a lawn dart) thrown by her older brother, and she was still able to live a very productive life. Hold on to hope, and stop creating lists of things other games half the age have but this one doesn't. Either enjoy what we've got and understand it for what it is....or move to one of those other games you wish FFXI was.

I have been playing since 2007. "Coming and going" like everyone else, I have been present in all the mistakes made by the FFXI dev-team which have buried the title.

You're going to eat the whole story of the "***" of the FFXI Dev-team did and I hope you have the balls to read them, just as you have the balls to insult me, ok? lol

1.- In 2010 "SE" was desperate to make the game more "Casual friendly", FFXI had the reputation of being the most hardcore MMRPG where raising a character from 1 to 75 was a tortuous, terrifying journey that only die-hard-fans will complete.

The dev-jp are naive and think that the world will behave with "Respect" as they do in their country. They never expected that the "GRINGOS" were going to give their friends lv 30 the chance of "Leech" exp in abbysea that way, but since they saw that people liked it and many re-subscribed, they didn't cover the bug.

This "completely removed" one of the qualities that made FFXI so special, FIERCELY DESTROYING the Level-up.

2.- I return your beloved "Tanaka" to the controls of FFXI after having annihilated FFXIV making FFXI-VER2 in pirated version.

VW was fun but RUINED it with the proc system, only a "GOD-TIER Nerd" would say it's fun to proc and interrupt DPS.

Legion and Dynamis-they were just "Ok".

As tanaka could not recover ALL the players that were lost with abyssea "They ran, through the back door kicking him in the butt" to the *** ***, outside of my company.

3.- SoA comes out the expansion was beautiful and difficult. It was Midcore designed for strong LINKSHELLs, this is where many LS infested with noobs saw their sad realities. You could ONLY defeat the bosses, with COR + BRD and even double rotation was needed, having Relic, Mythic and Empy weapons was essential. "Classic" and "ingenious" strategies should be used, they were not ZERGS of 30 seconds, where one measures the size of the "***" to see who won the parse.

4.- All the noobs went to the official forums to cry. "Its too hard" my LS is dying :((. So square took the weapons ILV system from "WoW giving them 125-150 combat-skill" casually everything. So the ILV system was intruded into wow, that killed the R/ M/E weapons and the true fans of "were"

5.- Currently, square exclusively makes content for 6 people. Any LS with groups of 10-15 people must be doing "double runs" and it's super annoying, hiding like a *** goes to cheat on his husband every noon is not fun just to make content with your 6 friends sending the rest of the LS to the "*** Street".

It also makes you GRIND the same content for a minimum of 2 years and all the RESOURCES are spent on AMBUSCADE, for getting it out monthly. Instead of not releasing ANY UPDATE for 6 months and then releasing real content.

I could go on but these are the things that put our beloved FFXI in the state where she is right now an "ONLINE-RPG" with multiplayer, removing dynamis wave 3 and some escha monsters. This is a 6 player game 99% of the time

Have a good day and please do not forget take your valerian + clonazepam before posting k? look your hand and eyelids tremble, don't get a tachycardia.

Oh my days what a wall of utter shite. No idea why you are bolding stuff as there is nothing of importance in there.

Leveling was eased because the player base was shrinking fast, 75 cap was stagnating with nothing new coming out for years until Abyssea. I believe a lot of people were very happy to not spend months leveling jobs.

Current XI is far more enjoyable than the total snooze fest that was 75 cap and yes i did a lot of endgame back then. The ilvl gear gives us so much more options than anything at 75 cap did.

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It also makes you GRIND the same content for a minimum of 2 years and all the RESOURCES are spent on AMBUSCADE, for getting it out monthly. Instead of not releasing ANY UPDATE for 6 months and then releasing real content.

How is that any different to 75 cap? We got ToAU content in 2007 and then nothing till WoE, Voidwalker and Abyssea came out in 2010 while all the RESOURCES were spent on WoTG and campaign battles.
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