Fixing The MW 3-8 Cashgrab

wish we could make the same type of deductions about you. unfortunately you're posting from a sock account though

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You can't nickel and dime SE back if you're paying them. Profit is profit.

he cancelled the wardrobes he had booked and booked a mule instead. of course he's not denying them as much earnings as if he quit but maybe he still wants to play while having this small triumph.

I got curious about this, so I checked into the inflation. Now obviously inflation calculators aren't perfectly accurate, but the ballpark is $12.95 in 2003 dollars -> $19~$20 in 2022 dollars.


so if you play one character with 6 paid-for wardrobes it costs $24.95.

Now try to account for the service you got in 2003 vs 2022.

That's where you *** up.

You were paying 12.95 and getting 12.95, now you're paying 12.95~37 and getting about $5

people won't get it, someone should just delete all these threads.

SE simps gonna SE simp.

small indie company that needs their support. people like radial making sock accounts to say so

Hey guys... I've heard of this thing called inflation and here is an automatic calculator to show that we're right in line with it.

Also.... I can't do basic math like $2 x 6....

Is it $2 per wardrobe? I haven't played in ages. My bad, I'll edit my post.

Ya'll arguing about this again?

I can't disagree with this, SE does absolutely do the bare minimum these days.

cashgrab... if so easy to add 4 more wardrobes they could have 'easily' added them 1-2 years ago as the inventory promise has been around for a long time now. Their actions by not doing so indicates to me that it's more than just a cashgrab.

So question, if the first time SE even mentioned helping with inventory, in my mind it really came up about a year ago where they had discussed fixing it. If February of 2021, they immediately released 4 wardrobes with the same cost, you're saying there wouldn't be 3 forum posts complaining about it?

People complain about everything.

The problem is people want to derive motive from action. Did FFXI lose alot of subs recently and this is their fix to keep sub costs flat? Calling it a cash grab because it didn't get released 1-2 years ago doesn't really make sense to me.

The implication is that it took 1-2 years to implement. That is absolutely not the truth though, they didn't want to implement it 2 years ago because of load times so they said they were exploring other solutions. Obviously the other solutions didn't pan out(probably because they make less money than more wardrobes would), so eventually they decide to toss these to us.

What are you even talking about? You paid $12.95, you got like $4 because they needed the profits. Now you are paying $12.95 and get like $7.

If you get paid $10/hr then 10 more years but you still getting paid $10/hr then you probably doing it wrong.

So, what you're saying is there are factors beyond just adding storage, and that it took 2 years for them to do what is in the best interest of the game and work on a solution (ie, load times). And since we've had this optional service I haven't seen load times leap up considerably so I'm assuming they correctly implemented the solution.

Why is everyone quick to say omfg this is totally about money when they could have done the same thing, with worse load times immediately and ruined aspects of the game. And instead they seem to have actually worked on a solution that didn't destroy load times.

They would have lost subscribers if they gave a half-baked solution that wrecked load times. Also they didn't just add storage, they added wardrobes for the added functionality of wardrobes. If they gave you Mog safe 3 for free and no other storage you would be more happy about that? Having to remove all of your jobs gear from inventory and put new jobs gear into inventory from Mog safe 3, in order to use it?

Let's say they did that in order to watch load times and make sure they didn't break the game and keep it enjoyable for everyone. It's still not as helpful to the people calling for storage because it was never about BS items, it was because we had too much equipment in non wardrobe spaces.

I get it, you don't want to pay for a solution to a problem. Cool, don't. But don't complain about it when it is useful for players. And again, IT'S OPTIONAL.

So many people ITT subscribe to the Reddit philosophy on economics.

It's becoming a lost art but typically businesses want to add money options that dont also make the customers experience worse unless they are a needed commodity/the effected customers are small enough to not outweigh the gain for others. Load times were a common issue brought up right alongside inventory woes

Reddit? That requires reading, brah. Youtube all the way.


Recently started compiling random quotes from the dev team to be able to cite them. Here's what I was able to find/recall in regards to Inventory Expansion.

People speaking repeatedly about things they clearly have no knowledge of is not exclusive to or prominent to Reddit. It's equal amongst all forums. I read several in 2022 and its everywhere you go. Whether it's economics, computer troubleshooting, politics, history or current events. Over 75% of people who join in the conversations clearly have no clue what they're even talking about. They just want to feel included.

So .... much ... entitlement ....

They did not meaningfully improve load times. They allowed single bags to display before all bags are complete, but INCREASED the overall load time and send an insane amount of redundant data that even the most basic quality control would have caught. I wrote a plugin without access to FFXI's source that effectively made load times instant in a few hours last month. I know you want to believe that these are monumental tasks, but they really, really aren't.

Emphasis mine.

Next thread will be about how rich people didn't work for their money and they steal it from poor people.

As a developer, this one stands out the most to me:


I can't count the number of conversations I've had with middle management trying to explain that when you budget for new functionality, development and launch is only a small part of overall cost and that anything you release has to be maintained. Upkeep can easily exceed the launch cost if it requires additional human resources, directly or indirectly.

Most of the time, it's simply meant existing headcount has one more thing to fit into their overbooked/overworked schedule because the company doesn't want to pay for the partial person problem and would rather foist the cost on the developers' well-being.

As a cherry on top, middle management also liked to drop the decision in the developers' lap, suggesting that the company would prefer to improve user experience or add new functionality, but the devs are going to have to choose between working for free or not doing right by the users.

I was going to ask is that plugin something we would all be able to use, or would it be something that could be detected by SE aka get banned from like speed/warp hacks? Cause idk if anyone else has noticed this, but ever since the Feb update every time I zone on any of my chars, there is 100% always a huge lag spike and frame rate drops from 60 down to like 45 till the loading icons vanish.

That never happened at all before this update, either on my old PC or my new one. And just to clarify, no it's not cause my PC is slow. I just upgraded it at end of 2020 to a AMD 5900x CPU, RX 6800XT video card and 32GB Ram. Also running XI off an NVMe SSD so that's not an issue either. I never have frame drops outside of stuff like Dynamis-D, Odyssey, and during Domain dragons cause of huge amount of people. The new zoning lag after the update happens even if I'm sitting in my mog house or an empty zone with no one around.

Shiehna, it's not a miracle fix, but one thing I do once in a blue moon is set FFXI's CPU affinity to 1 core if it's a big problem.

difference is all those other places won't downvote your posts into oblivion, boot your from the subreddit, or in some cases banned from the website entirely, for posting an dissenting opinion.

Thanks for the tip, I could try that to see if it makes any improvement with the issue. But the thing is I was using the same PC hardware from late 2020 to now and that zoning lag never happened till after the Feb update. I literally was playing XI that night before the update and didn't have the zone lag spikes happen till right after the update maint was over. So I'm really leaning towards it being more server related on SE's end, probably related to how they changed the way the game loads the inventory data like Thorny mentioned with the redundant data packets.

should make wardrobes 1 and 2 99 spaces. Or make something people can buy like they did with the token and tidal talisman that will give them 99 spaces for wardrobe 1 and 2. It isnt really outrageous to ask for the 2$ though. People bringing up inflation need to understand it doesnt matter when people dont receive pay increase to match inflation but cost of living goes up regardless

And as someone who moderates one of the largest subreddits, I still maintain that voting systems are idiotic. They sound like a good idea on paper. It gives the illusion that the posts with the most upvotes are correct and ones that have none or downvotes are incorrect when that's not always the case.

You see posts downvoted that are 100% correct but were not stated by a member of the area's inner clique. You see posts upvoted not because they're right but because one of the local favorites or a discord clique member said it. People won't upvote you even if you're right but because you disagreed with them somewhere else and they just can't let it go. That or you get people with the same tactics as Ben Eisenkop make it that way.

Its findall on ashita4 with instantload enabled. It is available to the public and safe for use but I doubt it will fix framerate issues. Just caches inv on zoneout if it is fully loaded and flushes back on zonein. Something SE could have easily accomplished, your bags dont change when zoning theres no need to repopulate all of them after first login.