Hold Your Horses Undercutters
Hold your horses undercutters
Plz dont sell HMP stacks under 6m after event prices goes back... feel like didnt dress for nothing..so boring,,
If you buy them at high prices then I am sure we can come to an agreement.
Leviathan.Andret said: »
If you buy them at high prices then I am sure we can come to an agreement.
No dude u did misunderstood me.. I have 10 stacks for sell..and prices I think we can work some out.
endxen said: »
Only things that didn't get completely ruined was hq cursed items
Some got obliterated on Bismarck. I tanked one item because I just stopped caring really. I kept getting undercut and just said *** it. Hell, I even sold an HQ piece for 30m a couple weeks ago only to see someone selling for well under half of that. There's barely any money in HQ abjurations here anymore.
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Delve mats used to be such a great steady stream of Gil but not only did the sparks evisceration ruin those, rmt multi boxers got into the fray and have wrecked the market. Even before sparks inflation, mats would easily sell for 700k each. Now it’s 250-300k. Oh well
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brb, transferring to the hell server so I can undercut further
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Please do. Have 3 empyreans close to or on the HMP stage
Because of the sparks->Gil nerf and no new sources of Gil, a server's economy has a nearly finite amount of gil to work with, in terms of buying and selling amongst each other. This leads to deflation where prices drop, but the value of gil goes up and our purchasing power goes down. What we can buy with a million gil may increase, but that gil will be harder to come by.
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
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Back then i geared all my 6 mains with Carmine Cuisses +1 for 12M each leg and at that time, i thought it was quite cheap. So total spent 72M.
Last week i saw people selling the voodoo cuisses for 3M, then i decided to gear my second line 1$ chars for the price of one and half back then (18M), and that i thought was cheap already.
Last week i saw people selling the voodoo cuisses for 3M, then i decided to gear my second line 1$ chars for the price of one and half back then (18M), and that i thought was cheap already.
The day voodoo cuisses drops to 1.5M, all my 1$ mules gonna have a pair lol.
Such amazing piece.
Such amazing piece.
Here are some examples of what prices were last summer versus now.
I’ll list best summer price first and current in parentheses.
Beitetsu stack: 2.0m (700k)
Riftborn stack: 1.6m (300k)
Alexandrite: 900k (450k)
Heavy Metal: 8-9m (6m)
HP Bayld: 1.3m (600k)
Those are rough figures but illustrates my point. Fel is right, HMP have held their value the best.
I’ll list best summer price first and current in parentheses.
Beitetsu stack: 2.0m (700k)
Riftborn stack: 1.6m (300k)
Alexandrite: 900k (450k)
Heavy Metal: 8-9m (6m)
HP Bayld: 1.3m (600k)
Those are rough figures but illustrates my point. Fel is right, HMP have held their value the best.
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Some merc figures were outrageous too. People were selling Epona rings for 25m lol
Just need those shield crafts to drop to reflect the price drop in everything else and this would be fine, honestly. Right now, they're dropping a lot slower than the rest of the goods so they're relatively more expensive than they used to be.
*Patiently waits for Beitetsu prices to tank further*
*looks at 10 remaining signed stikini +1*
If you ever want to know about price drops coming, Just wait till I make a bunch of something because I'm bored and then it's a guarantee that someone else is going to self-undercut the price into oblivion.
Hurry up and release Mog wardrobe 5 and 6 so I have another reason to care about gil again
If you ever want to know about price drops coming, Just wait till I make a bunch of something because I'm bored and then it's a guarantee that someone else is going to self-undercut the price into oblivion.
Hurry up and release Mog wardrobe 5 and 6 so I have another reason to care about gil again
Someone should whistle blow hq craft exploit 2.0 more then it has been. I can not compete at all even farming most the mats.
Mrxi said: »
Someone should whistle blow hq craft exploit 2.0 more then it has been. I can not compete at all even farming most the mats.
I do notice some items seem to drop to less than profitable margins occasionally but that usually doesn't last long.
Felgarr said: »
Because of the sparks->Gil nerf and no new sources of Gil, a server's economy has a nearly finite amount of gil to work with, in terms of buying and selling amongst each other. This leads to deflation where prices drop, but the value of gil goes up and our purchasing power goes down. What we can buy with a million gil may increase, but that gil will be harder to come by.
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
SE turned opened the gil faucet years ago, then later saw the massive inflation and unplugged the drain. The drain couldn't even keep up with inflation before, but now they've shut the faucet and left the drain open. It's only a question of when will they plug up the drain or re-open the faucet now.
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My tinfoil hat states than people still have trillions of hacked items on accounts. Far as I'm concerned, they made enough that they never won't.
24/7 months of zero loss, unlimited free crafting could result in a never touched 16 mule account holding 16000 hacked crafted items. Takes a long time even when people are buying 10 a day to burn 16000.
Do we have proof someone did it? No, but we know for a fact that it's possible as they didn't roll anything back nor ban any buyers. So you have to assume it is what it is.
24/7 months of zero loss, unlimited free crafting could result in a never touched 16 mule account holding 16000 hacked crafted items. Takes a long time even when people are buying 10 a day to burn 16000.
Do we have proof someone did it? No, but we know for a fact that it's possible as they didn't roll anything back nor ban any buyers. So you have to assume it is what it is.
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They nerfed the sparks and the teleport thing. It's a lot more expensive and time consuming to make a ton of bots to farm gil. They all moved to JP farming now.
Deflation is going strong. Prices are going to keep tanking as more people make stuff.
Deflation is going strong. Prices are going to keep tanking as more people make stuff.
Chimerawizard said: »
Mrxi said: »
Someone should whistle blow hq craft exploit 2.0 more then it has been. I can not compete at all even farming most the mats.
I do notice some items seem to drop to less than profitable margins occasionally but that usually doesn't last long.
Felgarr said: »
Because of the sparks->Gil nerf and no new sources of Gil, a server's economy has a nearly finite amount of gil to work with, in terms of buying and selling amongst each other. This leads to deflation where prices drop, but the value of gil goes up and our purchasing power goes down. What we can buy with a million gil may increase, but that gil will be harder to come by.
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
(Yes, we do have NPC sources of gil like troves' 5M and killing mobs or NPCables, but that's not enough to curb deflation, especially since there's little to do in game right now).
SE turned opened the gil faucet years ago, then later saw the massive inflation and unplugged the drain. The drain couldn't even keep up with inflation before, but now they've shut the faucet and left the drain open. It's only a question of when will they plug up the drain or re-open the faucet now.
Yup, agreed. You elaborated on my point in a bit more detail. I've never seen anything like this in FFXI history (or any other game AFAIK). I hope they re-open a faucet, rather than close a drain. (Because cheaper gil sinks, like reduce AF1+3 mats from 1.1M to 100k still isn't going to curb deflation, so we kind of have to hope for a new gil faucet).
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I haven't seen any evidence of a crafting hack, but frankly no one with a shield needs it... You'll make more gil than you need either way for anything you need to buy in-game for any of your characters.
The only things I see are people with massively similar names selling su5/etc from 5 or 6 different crafts on basically a schedule on every two weeks or something. To me it either looks like giant saved up stockpiles or server transfer sales
The only things I see are people with massively similar names selling su5/etc from 5 or 6 different crafts on basically a schedule on every two weeks or something. To me it either looks like giant saved up stockpiles or server transfer sales
there will be a thread every month complaining about crafting exploits until this game dies.
anyone remember that guy in 2007-8 who photoshopped his dusk glove+1 synths on BG that was always called an exploiter?
anyone remember that guy in 2007-8 who photoshopped his dusk glove+1 synths on BG that was always called an exploiter?
On the plus side, it's almost Christmas and people are always buying gil every year around this time (more than normal) with their excess money from gifts, returns, giftcards, and such. That will cause prices on items to increase a bit, if only temporarily. Buy low now. Sell high later. Or don't. I don't pay your sub.
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