Official BLM Epeen Vs SCH Epeen Thread!! Keep These Fights Clean!

Without the lantern or magic crit.

I'll have to agree with this. These are my numbers without uggy and maybe a couple INT less than what I am now. I fail to see how I can get 500 more damage without Spirit Lantern or other extremely odd enhancements.



This is on iceday/thundersday with obi and tonban, cream puff or melon+1 and I have 5/5 ice and 5/5 thunder.

With support a BLM can, no problem.

Ah, now we're getting into details. That's the basic thing, what are we defining as acceptable and unacceptable? This is why this thread sucks, in addition to various individuals flailing their epeen around. It might be possible with top gear, spirit lantern and obi included. I don't know, I avoid playing BLM outside of events as much as possible these days and cba to do the math. I just lolmeleeBLM in Campaign for buffer, I still need AN.

I'm telling you with af2 pants on and obi and lol NQ weskit with 3int on it and using magnetic earring I hit 1991 thunder4. Now sure blizzard has 506 V value while thunder has 541 however to exactly make up for that just need addition of 17 more int... so with witch sash still on 6 int instead of 3 on weskit and 5 from staff that gets me 4 away which is about equivalent in this high of MAB to 2-2.5 MAB effectively in dmg. Getting another 7 from novio and 10 from magic crit would counter that negative and bring it up to about 14more MAB worth of dmg. Which if all that aligned together would put me at about 2150 dmg. Now yes without getting weather and magic crit to proc I wont hit that high. However can still hit low 2k with wearing obi... and if I witch strap it for magic crit that will hit 2100 something.

Hey, it's a epenis thread right? Dont post a 2500+ Freeze II nuke and say you wear NQ bs trying to make it seem like you're some magical hume BLM. (OP).

The rules in summary are just self-sufficiency. If you're going to give the BLM so much support they can dish out a 2100 T4, you're gonna have to give that support to the SCH too, in which case their T4 is now going to be a lot more than 2100.

Check my gear I've never owned an HQ. My NQ does have 3int as previously stated on it though.

I was talking about Korpg :P. Your numbers are perfectly normal if you use lantern and burn.

Only problem is the sch needed magic crit to do it too. Try without ebullience then?


Give me novio and I will do it solo no meds or outside help. Just gotta get a lucky magic crit like sch does to get there while my lantern is up.

Nightfyre

You managed to succinctly address my request into one word, for that, I thank you.

As for your reply, I think you're right. Rarely is there a situation where one is asked to dump mp on a mob.
As for this thread, I think most of us got off topic. All big-boy asked us to do was show epeen, not math, not situational bs, just pic and proof. With that said, bravo to whomever had that 10k nuke back on page2?

Yep yep.

Basically if you see a TIV over 1810ish it means person got support.

What about these numbers!?!

Little know fact blm/thf SA works for magic but int modifies it forcing crit and upping your spells base dmg!!!

"big-boy" posted numbers with no proof, and was proven wrong.

Ok Dasva I guess your character just has some kind of magical power that allows you to nuke for more than everyone else. Because yeah, as I said, I have all these things you are going on about and I don't hit 2100 or anywhere near it with BLM T4

Someone submit that SS to the site so I can see it!

9999 Freeze II on a pudding? ***, I retire.

If you count spirit lantern or hoping for magic crit or to just get lucky on day without forcing it as support... I'd say more like 1850. My 1991 thunder4 would've been exactly 1810 without spirit lantern... well ok a little more since I would've had 2 int to replace it but whatever thats like another 10-15 dmg yays. A novio would do alot more for that or a better weskit/morrigan body... that's probably about it cept maybe MKE body or a nicely auged something or another or praying for magic crit or day to proc without obi.

Did you use spirit lantern? Without it even fully pimped it'd be hard to hit 1900 without like int pot or help

Support = lantern and burn. (In my mind).

I'm talking 1810 - natural BLM with sorc and uggy proc.

I just want to lol for once today, please?

Burn!?! What cause sch can't get it without subbing blm? And really lantern ok so its only up for 4 min out of every 30 but it's not like its hard to get. Hell make decent xp at doing that

pr0n

No, I didn't. As far as I am concerned, the only thing people use spirit lanterns for is "My penis is bigger than yours" screenshots.

The point is, if a BLM is doing a 2100 T4, they are under much more extreme circumstances than a SCH that can do a 2100 T4.

I know right it didn't even show up on my screen it was too big

Ebullience is only for epeen too. Using pars is much more mp/dmg efficient and wasting 2 strats on one nuke is just as bad as not using pars due to how long you'll have to wait. Given the same lvl of pimped out gear the only difference in circumstances is me using spirit lantern vs you using ebullience and putting weather on yourself. I hardly call spirit lantern and extreme circumstance

Conclusion

Blm under most circumstances will blow its wad faster than a Sch leaving the monster in question "finished" sooner due to the more potentness of the blm, but Sch will last longer and be able to satisfy more monsters whilst being less potent.

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Not true. Ebullience is more useful than Parsimony in a lot of situations. For example, if I'm partying on SCH with an lolblm they're gonna run out of MP long before me whether I am using Parsimony or not. May as well use the charges to use Ebullience instead. Aside from that, stratagem charges are very expendable. I get one back once a minute. On the other hand, your Spirit Lantern is a little more precious and harder to obtain. You're not gonna be using it all the time. This is why Spirit lantern is a much more extreme circumstance in my books.

Any one can beat a lolblm. You see those SSs I did of tinnin? That shows you just how big a difference theres is between lolblm and not so lolblm. Hell when I came as rdm/sch I beat those blms thunder4s with my thunder3 which is all kinds of sad

1 charge per spells is chump change 2 per spell is kinda ewww unless your 2hring. Even then though only getting to use 1 charge a minute kinda blows and as far as dmg/mp goes cept when conserve mp procs or that pars does win. Well yeah an item is harder to get then a ja you have natural. It's also super easy fight well for blm some other jobs not so easy.

Lol! Spirit Latern hard to get...like the Maat warm-up fight is hard.