What Will Be FFXI's Stone Of Jordan?

in diabolo 2 gold had little to no value so ppl used to calculate with stone of jordans (a rare ring) to determine the price for goods. since gil is steadily losing its value as you see items nowadays going for over half of cap gil (example), what do you think is going to be FFXI's stone of jordan?

Shiny Pokemon will be traded as currency.

i'd say some crafting mats could qualify, dark matter comes to mind but they only stack to 12. beastmen medals?

When did Kraken Club start selling for 600m? :/

This was covered on another thread as:

Most important thing about KC is how fun it is to use it. Getting 1500tp in one round swinging madly is realy enjoyable and using that tp to make skillchains is even more fun.

Prices of su5 weapons, S. Astral Detritus are increasing lately. Also, dynamis currency, alexandrites, pluton, beitetsu, riftborn boulders went up a few months ago.
Inflation or the result of Dynamis Ban + HQ craft rate down with last patch? Maybe both?

once you have a couple of individuals with almost unlimited resources the laws of the market don't really apply anymore. on bahamut for example KC went from 80mil to 500mil within a year without a real reason.
its like the prices for modern art in RL.

Or kclub is very relevant on ranger with gearsets now.

pls elaborate

Have you not seen a rng/nin with offhand kclub?

main hand tauret and gastraphetes and you have a trueflight murder weapon.

no, i haven't. i thought they nerfed close range + ranged WS long ago? did they forget to include magic based range WS?

Because KC RNG SB build was discovered and people claim it out parses BiS r15 WAR in zergs or something.

It's pretty obvious that when claims like this pop on the internet others will want to buy KC and try it themselves.


I HIGHLY doubt it's only 1 dps increase over the next best thing.

Next best thing for SB is like....blurred +1 weapon?



They didn't. And KC is for SB build anyways. On my spreadsheet RNG gears can hit about 40k SB at 1000 TP. Now imagine you fires off a WS in 1 round.

Add damage limit job trait and TP overflow from KC its obviously pretty damn strong.

To be honest, if money's value isn't valuable, the next thing to base the price of goods off of would be the next available, easily tradeable item.

In this game, that would be Dynamis Currency, Alexandrites, and High-Purity Bayld. They are easy to make, have value, and can be traded for most anything. I personally have bartered Alexs for various items that I either craft or farm, since I'm using said Alexs for my mythics.

After those 3, the next available items would be Plutons/Beitetsu/Riftworn Boulders, since they also fit in the easy to make/have value/can be traded for most anything category.

REMA currency is a contender cause its accepted by almost everyone but their value is too low. if a stack of currency of your choice goes for 500k and you want to buy a KC that goes for 500.000.000 you'd need 1k inventory slots to make that trade and if you want to rule out trust so you can exchange in one trade you need a currency thats valuable enough to make the full payment in max 8 slots or less.

In cases like that, you just convert the 100 bills to gil, and use the gil to buy the KC.

Gil's value may be next to worthless, but you can still use it as a placeholder for transactions like this.

I think the concept of this thread is to determine what is considered valuable for monetary purposes. There's nothing wrong with using a placeholder currency between transactions, that happens all the time. Especially in real life situations like converting Euro to Rupees (the idea is to convert Euros to USDs, then USDs to Indian Rupees, since there is next to no market between Euros and Rupees, but there is always a market for Euros to USDs and Rupees to USDs. And I already know somebody is going to make a Zelda joke here, Rupees are the currency for India).

beitetsu will be the stone of Jordan, or beastman medals atm.

I have r15 chango war and r15 all the ranger things.

I cannot get savage blade kraken to win. I do however get kraken trueliight in dynamis to be very effective.

you don't need to use your imagination or even look outside of the ring slot, when there were 57 Stikini +1's on the AH and at least another 40 across 4 bazaars at the same time yesterday

the idea is a replacement currency for gil once gil became so worthless that items cost more than cap gil. you want to bypass the use of gil anywhere in the transaction.

I think the idea of a worthless currency is the amount it takes to convert to an item.

In Real Life terms, it's the cost of bread. Some economists like to use the cost to buy a bottle of Coke, since Coke is the most populous drink in the world.

In game terms, gil can still be a placeholder for bartering, since the real value of gil is determined on how much effort it takes to gain it. Back when I started in 2005, it would take me weeks just to get 10k gil together, much less 100k. I don't think I saw my first million gil in my bank until 2012 or 2013.

Today, I have 10 million in items on AH, along with another 100 mil in items waiting to be sold (thanks to Voidwatch), and another 300-400 mil in items waiting to be sold across all my mules. That's not including the gil in my bank.

The value of gil dropped so much because it takes next to no effort to earn it now.

Should see Path of Exile. They have a good currency exchange system where people trade gear and other currency items and they auction the items on a trade website & in global trade chat

the real reason gil dropped so much in value is cause we have like over half a decade behind us (when did sparks get introduced?) with heavy sparks botting and exploiting.
if money printer goes brrr the value of money goes AAAaaa

When people started getting stimulus checks.

Priorities, man... priorities

This is 100% the reason for inflation. They could prevent nerfing one of the most popular income sources for legit newbie players by restricting spark and accolade trading to 99999/irl day instead of removing it entirely. Until that happens (never) it’s best to keep at least 50% of your gil stored in diversified assets that can’t be duped/crafted like orph sash, Epam ring, Kclub, etc. because gil will continue to be to be worth less and less every day in the interim.

If there is an equivalent it would simply be "whatever square enix updates next" as the only solid answer. Everything in this game is situational and easily updated into oblivion.

Tbh this i believe to be the equivalent of phantasy star online 2 is photon drops or PDs. Ah memories

Man, nothing beats those Cruor Bots back in the day. Or the studded brais exploit.

Well...

Them chocobo blinkers. :D