Corona Virus, How Has It Affected Your Area So Far?

Maybe, most schools teach math horribly wrong.

This^^

is it really possible to compare individual aspects of response between countries with so much still up in the air variables wise?

-testing rate
-overall population
-speed of response for quarantine
-large scale mask usage
-vulnerability of population (age, conditions, access to health care,etc)

I don't think its possible to nail down one country's result vs another's based solely on mask usage. Can we compare the overall response and results between nations? Damn straight, and we should find out where the flaws were to improve upon in the future. Assign blame? If needed. But its a whole lot easier to assign blame vs fix things.

It's not at all. Even in our own states.

It's super easy to say bum *** wyoming has 2 cases and used no masks. even if every single person had (access to) a mask in nyc they would still have the most cases. population density matters more than any other stat.

(*)correction, lying matters the most. zero tests = zero cases. density second.

They need to freeze rent for sure, especially in NYC. Sadly that wouldn't help me at all but I know a lot of people in very bad positions atm if they have to pay rent without a job lol.

We test like mad and apply social distance here but nope, not slowing down one bit. =/ Face masks are the only major difference from what I've seen.

Stay in your house, and mask doesn't do anything. It doesn't float in the wind (technically).

Not every person in every situation needs to follow the same guidelines. I could walk out my door, lick every neighbor on my street and have next to zero fear of getting it. Ask someone in detroit, chicago, orlando, houston if they feel the same way.

When they say "don't wear masks" that's because it's a nationwide message and nationwide the majority get zero effect from a mask. All things are not equal. If you're in... Rural Idaho... the potatoes aren't going to give you Covid-19, you don't need a mask. If you're in Boise, you might want to mask up.

Also; most don't know ***about the masks. I see idiots running around in surgeons masks. That does not stop viral spread.

And then 2 months from now this is what we're going to see:


Let's try to minimize that, k? Please?

Then they could make it clear by telling people that so people can decide when to wear one, instead of saying "hey it's useless".

If they are worried that we can not remove it correctly then make videos to educate people.

I mean, we are adults, not kids. It isn't tough to make decisions and learn how to use them on our own.

I feel all the "face masks are useless" excuses seem to assume everyone are idiots or kids lol.

Stay at home 24/7 isn't feasible realistically. Sometimes I DO need to get close to people for one reason after another (work, clinic, interact with a cashier at grocery store etc).

I'm quite sure Surgical Masks work for average people. That's the "standard" level of protective gears in some countries currently promoting face masks. In face Czech Republic promote even lower level (home made masks) than that.

You can't rationalize with Americans. you do have to treat them like children.

... or start shooting them for non-compliance.

I haven't seen this personally (because I'm social distancing like a boss), but there are stories of people putting disposable masks and/or gloves before entering a store or wherever, doing their thing, and then taking them off when they leave the store and dropping them on the ground.

It's not that they end up on the ground, that's a shitty but easy fix. It's that they will end up in the ocean like everything else.

It's a much bigger problem than masks, and yeah masks will be a small contribution, but that's not an excuse to be ok with it.

My comment was just a loosely-related anecdote. It's a symptom of being shut-in and bored. I just find it amusing that people can be so meticulous and cautious and yet be selfish slobs at the same time.

"people". are. disgusting. (and that kinda works to our advantage sometimes, if we weren't we would get sick all the time)

These are the same people that needed to be reminded about hand washing. and to use soap when you do it. and how much time adequate washing takes.

The issue I have with this is, I don't believe a ***' thing most Asian governments release to the rest of the world concerning issues within their own countries. Some of the most ethnocentric societies on the planet are Asian and they would not for one second be above lying about something like this to protect their country's, "honor."

I mean wow, China has already actually tried to blame the US military for covid-19 even though it clearly came from China. Now they say they have NO new cases coming from inland China? Complete and utter ***.

He did test positive and come back to lead the strike anyway.

thank *** I still use cash, lol

Wow, people in Canada are that much of a push over? No, I'd never like to be in a country like China, thanks.

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XD!

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I do this, but mine go into the trash...

38 million people in Canada. You judge us all based on 1 "IF, THEN" comment that you clearly misread. ok...

That's because China has an authoritarian government so they can do whatever they want.

Some Asian countries are democracy, it's much harder to "lie" about the numbers because people will demand transparency. That's how democracy works. People will place transparency above "honor".

"ethnocentric people" exists in every society, including NA. For example I would call Quebec even more ethnocentric than most Asian countries. But even then I trust the numbers from Quebec government. I also trust numbers from South Korea and Taiwan just as much.

What are you talking about? Source? Your info is way wrong. There are no law that force people into quarantine if they purchased a cough medicine. Nor law that put people into jail AFAIK, just fine.

If getting a fine for breaking the rule is against human right, then Canada is against human right.

beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2020/3/25/1_4868566.html

Gonna pay $1000 for having a party with friends, MY RIGHT. Lol.

Until there is a uniform % of testing done across countries the numbers are irrelevant. If China is testing 10% of its population and Great Britain is testing 40%, its unfair to say that China is doing a better job at containing the spread. If two countries are both testing 50% of their population but one has 500 million and one has 40 million, you can't say the 2nd country is "doing better".

The biggest lesson I've learned from all of this is how bad the average American is at math. I'm not directing this to ANYONE in this thread- its mostly at leadership, media, and other loudmouths who get the largest audience with the least reason for it.

1. Complete lack of understanding of the differences between Additive, Multiplicative, or Exponential growth.

2. Complete ignorance on comparative data and how to rightfully compare two data sets vs a 2nd grader counting two stacks of oranges and saying which is bigger.

I know some will see why I write here along with quoted posts above and think this is directed at them. It isn't. I quoted because I do completely agree that there isn't a single damn country in the world that I trust when it comes to numbers related to this. Either hiding numbers, or hiding poor response that leads to poor numbers- the reason doesn't matter but there's no uniformity between what's being released.

Have you seen the drive through tests in the US, Europe or UK yet?
nope?

China and South Korea and even the middle east are doing a better job.

there's drive through testing in Texas

and Washington, and Colorado, and Ohio.....we can continue....

was the US late? Damn straight. Are things happening to try and at least be marginally responsible? Yup. Is it enough? Not even close. But when a country can control all media leaving its country, its a whole lot easier to paint a unified picture of what you want people to see.