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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-05-07 21:37:30
Judge could stop Trump DOJ from dropping case
Quote: The Department of Justice on Thursday told U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington it wants to drop the case against Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, following a pressure campaign by the Republican president and his political allies.
While judges typically sign off on such motions, Sullivan could refuse and instead demand answers from the DOJ about who requested the sudden about-face, said Seth Waxman, a former federal prosecutor now at the law firm Dickinson Wright.
“If Judge Sullivan wanted to he could conduct an inquiry and start asking a lot of questions,” said Waxman.
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The Justice Department said in a court filing on Thursday it is no longer persuaded that the FBI’s January 2017 interview with Flynn that led to the charges was conducted with a “legitimate investigative basis” and does not think Flynn’s statements were “material even if untrue.”
While the judge still has to rule on the submission, elated supporters of Flynn said there was no way Sullivan could force the department to prosecute if it did not want to. But the judge could stop Flynn from withdrawing his guilty plea and impose sentence. In that case, Trump could pardon Flynn.
The judge is unlikely to sign off on the request as a pro forma matter, said Channing Phillips, the former acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia during the Obama administration, adding that with Sullivan “nothing is pro forma.”
“I can guarantee you, he is going to question the prosecutors,” Phillips said in a phone interview. “He is going to want to understand exactly the basis for this motion ... You have a new attorney general. You have a new U.S. attorney. You have new prosecutors who take a different position. But the facts haven’t changed.”
Sullivan, 72, was appointed to the federal bench in 1994 by former Democratic President Bill Clinton and is known for an independent streak, often delivering strong rebukes of conduct he views as unjust.
Legal pundits are already weigning in, sharing the opinion that the Judge isn't likely to just dismiss the case. Flynn is guilty, he entered a guilty plea, the judge accepted it, he stands convicted and is awaiting sentencing. The Trump DOJ's opinion really doesn't matter, they were just there to give a sentencing recommendation which the Judge can completely ignore.
Doesn't matter. The new revelations practically guarantee a Trump pardon.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-07 22:32:13
There had to be a legitimate investigative purpose for the interview. If the primary purpose of the interview was to set up a perjury trap instead of obtaining evidence pertaining to the investigation (which unsealed documents show was a clear possibility) then the perjury is inadmissible. I suppose it's similar to how evidence obtained by illegal searches is inadmissible.
Either way, it's a huge gray area that actual lawyers and judges will have to work out instead of armchair internet lawyers. This never would have happened if the investigators (and yes, Flynn too) had some actual integrity, though.
Turns out the Democrats lead prosecutor on the case was suppressing exculpatory evidence and got booted once that came to light. He's also been removed from other unrelated cases. I guess the Democrats fully endorse unlawful behavior from the Government.
How the regulars are reacting just proves what I've said before.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange Man VERY VERY BAD
Oh and Biden knew about the whole thing while he was VP.
By Viciouss 2020-05-07 22:45:07
lol. I'm so sure.
By Viciouss 2020-05-07 22:50:06
There had to be a legitimate investigative purpose for the interview. If the primary purpose of the interview was to set up a perjury trap instead of obtaining evidence pertaining to the investigation (which unsealed documents show was a clear possibility) then the perjury is inadmissible. I suppose it's similar to how evidence obtained by illegal searches is inadmissible.
Either way, it's a huge gray area that actual lawyers and judges will have to work out instead of armchair internet lawyers. This never would have happened if the investigators (and yes, Flynn too) had some actual integrity, though.
Turns out the Democrats lead prosecutor on the case was suppressing exculpatory evidence and got booted once that came to light. He's also been removed from other unrelated cases. I guess the Democrats fully endorse unlawful behavior from the Government.
Turns out none of this is actually true. Shocking right?
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-07 22:55:45
Judge could stop Trump DOJ from dropping case
Quote: The Department of Justice on Thursday told U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington it wants to drop the case against Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, following a pressure campaign by the Republican president and his political allies.
While judges typically sign off on such motions, Sullivan could refuse and instead demand answers from the DOJ about who requested the sudden about-face, said Seth Waxman, a former federal prosecutor now at the law firm Dickinson Wright.
“If Judge Sullivan wanted to he could conduct an inquiry and start asking a lot of questions,” said Waxman.
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The Justice Department said in a court filing on Thursday it is no longer persuaded that the FBI’s January 2017 interview with Flynn that led to the charges was conducted with a “legitimate investigative basis” and does not think Flynn’s statements were “material even if untrue.”
While the judge still has to rule on the submission, elated supporters of Flynn said there was no way Sullivan could force the department to prosecute if it did not want to. But the judge could stop Flynn from withdrawing his guilty plea and impose sentence. In that case, Trump could pardon Flynn.
The judge is unlikely to sign off on the request as a pro forma matter, said Channing Phillips, the former acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia during the Obama administration, adding that with Sullivan “nothing is pro forma.”
“I can guarantee you, he is going to question the prosecutors,” Phillips said in a phone interview. “He is going to want to understand exactly the basis for this motion ... You have a new attorney general. You have a new U.S. attorney. You have new prosecutors who take a different position. But the facts haven’t changed.”
Sullivan, 72, was appointed to the federal bench in 1994 by former Democratic President Bill Clinton and is known for an independent streak, often delivering strong rebukes of conduct he views as unjust.
Legal pundits are already weigning in, sharing the opinion that the Judge isn't likely to just dismiss the case. Flynn is guilty, he entered a guilty plea, the judge accepted it, he stands convicted and is awaiting sentencing. The Trump DOJ's opinion really doesn't matter, they were just there to give a sentencing recommendation which the Judge can completely ignore.
Doesn't matter. The new revelations practically guarantee a Trump pardon.
While the Judge does have final say in that court, there isn't much of a choice here. Once the Prosecution dismisses their own case and publicly states it was unlawful, kinda leaves no arguement to sustain. Even if the Judge orders a sentence the is a very limited direct appeal. It's reserved for cases of prosecutorial misconduct where the trial itself is unlawful. It's rare because of it's extremely high bar, think the innocence project here. Seeing as the Prosecution just announced to the world that they thought the trial itself was unlawful, well yeah. Then the hail mary is the Presidential pardon, which given the Prosecution just admitted the trial was unlawful, well yeah.
Either was the Democrats going to order their PR firms to explod. I wonder how far they are from ordering people to take up arms?
By Viciouss 2020-05-07 23:07:18
The prosecution stating the case was "unlawful" (which didn't happen) doesn't make the case unlawful. Like I said, Flynn has already been convicted. He is guilty. The prosecution is going to have to explain to the Judge why they believe the facts have changed to warrant abandoning the already decided case. Which, good luck.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-05-08 13:03:54
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By Viciouss 2020-05-08 13:12:35
In way better news, 2 days after taking on the case, the Georgia State Police arrested and charged the two white men that laid in wait to ambush and murder a black pedestrian..back in February.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-05-08 13:20:47
In way better news, 2 days after taking on the case, the Georgia State Police arrested and charged the two white men that laid in wait to ambush and murder a black pedestrian..back in February.
Yeah, it should not have taken this long to arrest them. I'm typically not in the court of public opinion mindset because there is always more to every case than what we see in the media. That being said, based on what the video shows, I'm going to chime in with an early "Screw those guys."
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-05-09 07:15:08
New masks from the White House, looks to be made from some type of paper/cardboard. How appropriate to wear a mask that fails to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, branded with the administration that has achieved the same result.
By Viciouss 2020-05-09 08:32:32
It seems like they are trying to suppress the information but it looks like at least 4 or 5 WH staffers have tested positive for covid in the last couple of days.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-10 13:05:43
So everyone ready for the insane screaming when Flynn walks out this week?
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 13:14:53
Considering the rogue DOJ couldn't even file the motion to drop the charges properly, (none of the actual prosecutors on the case would sign the motion, literally a repeat of the bogus Roger Stone stunt that Barr pulled) I seriously doubt Judge Sullivan is going to just allow the DOJ to just walk away from a case that already has a conviction. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he goes forward with the sentencing hearing.
Also, Saevel was lying (of course) when he said the prosecutors were removed from the case. No such action was taken, they withdrew on their own, just like the Stone case. Huge difference.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-05-10 13:45:03
So everyone ready for the insane screaming when Flynn walks out this week? Walk? He plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Nothing can change that.
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 14:07:28
Flynn's fate unclear as Judge has options
Nobody knows what the judge is gonna do. But the article touches on a lot of key points that Fox News is just outright ignoring in an effort to somehow smear Obama (not working).
Quote: The Justice Department's surprise motion Thursday to dismiss the case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn has left some legal experts puzzling over how the federal judge presiding over the years-long, politically fraught legal battle might respond.
District Judge Emmet Sullivan has previously excoriated Flynn in court for his actions, including in a December 2018 sentencing proceeding prior to Flynn's later withdrawal of his guilty plea for lying to the FBI.
"You lied to the FBI about three different topics, and you made those false statements while you were serving as the National Security Adviser -- the President of the United States' most senior national security aid. I can't minimize that," Sullivan said. "I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out."
He lied to the FBI and the Vice President. The Judge basically sums up those crimes as borderline treason. Lying to the VP certainly is a matter of national security and warrants the Feds interviewing Flynn. So the whole claim that the FBI had no business interviewing Flynn is questionable.
Quote: In an interview with CBS on Thursday Barr denied he was doing the president's bidding and demurred when asked whether it remains true that Flynn lied to the FBI.
"You know, people sometimes plead to things -- that turn out not to be crimes," he said.
Well guess what Mr. Rogue Attorney General, lying to the FBI is actually a crime.
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 14:07:55
Damnit. I meant to hit preview instead of submit, oh well, Ill just triple post!
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 14:11:58
Quote: He could simply accept the Department of Justice's motion for dismissal by taking a "leave of court," which would make way for the charges to be formally tossed out. If Sullivan has more serious concerns about either the conduct of FBI agents outlined in Shea's filing, or suspects potential political influence in the DOJ's decision to dismiss, he could appoint an independent counsel to open an inquiry into the case. Sullivan could also technically decline to accept the Justice Department's motion altogether and move toward sentencing Flynn -- though legal experts suggested this would be unlikely and would face an immediate appeal.
"A situation in which someone has pled guilty twice, litigation has been going on for two years, the main prosecutor withdraws from the case, there's a certain amount of examination that the judge should do," former district judge Nancy Gertner said Friday.
Gertner and others said a likely next step for Sullivan would be calling a conference of the DOJ and Flynn's defense team to press for more answers on Thursday's motion, especially after the case's former prosecutor who served in special counsel Robert Mueller's office, Brandon Van Grack, withdrew from the case hours before the DOJ's motion. No other career prosecutors from the U.S. attorneys office signed onto Shea's filing.
This is just like what happened when the rogue DOJ tried to amend its sentencing recommendations against the guilty Roger Stone, the lead prosecutors wanted nothing to do with it and withdrew from the case, and they couldn't find anyone else to sign onto the motion, because it was bogus. Just like this case.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-10 17:42:42
So everyone ready for the insane screaming when Flynn walks out this week? Walk? He plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Nothing can change that.
He took a plea deal that his former lawyer's recommended. Current lawyer's said the deal itself was unlawful. The Prosecution just announced their entire case to be unlawful and have dropped prosecution. Supreme Court rulings have established that Judge's should acknowledge prosecutorial discretion in this matter. Now the Judge doesn't have to accept prosecutorial discretion, but even if he doesn't there is a narrow appeals available that would almost certainly be approved.
The prosecution announcing the case to be unlawful pretty much ended it all.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-10 18:01:57
Sorry was posting from phone.
Defendants may withdraw a guilty plea, they submit a written request saying they were incorrect in their belief at that time. The Judge reviews it and the prosecution would argue against it. It's the prosecution arguing against it that sets the bar high. Should the prosecution said "sure he was in error accepting this", then the Judge would grant the motion to remove the plea which would send the whole case to trial.
What the prosecution did here was even more, they not only said he was not guilty, but that the whole case was illegal in the first place. That guarantees that it'll be dismissed on the limited appeals available in such a situation.
And here are the pertinent links, that none of you will bother to read anyway.
https://casetext.com/statute/united-states-code/title-18-appendix/federal-rules-of-criminal-procedure/title-ix-general-provisions/section-48-dismissal
Supreme Court Decision regarding the matter
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/434/22.html
DC Federal Appeals Court decision regarding the matter
https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-fokker-servs-bv-4
Legal blog deciphering the previous rulings
https://www.lawfareblog.com/justice-department-wants-drop-flynns-case-can-judge-say-no
Quote: As an example of this mode of interpretation, the court pointed to Rule 48(a). Although the language requiring leave of the court could “conceivably” be read broadly, the D.C. Circuit stated, decisions to dismiss pending criminal charges fall within the prosecutorial discretion of the executive branch, and Rinaldi stands for the proposition that Rule 48(a) does not confer “any substantial role” for courts in determining whether charges should be dismissed. Instead, the role of the courts is quite narrow—to protect a defendant against prosecutorial harassment through repeated efforts to file and then dismiss charges. The D.C. Circuit then explicitly rejected the idea that “leave of the court” allows a judge to deny a motion to dismiss based on its belief that the defendant should stand trial or that any remaining charges fail to adequately address the gravity of his alleged conduct.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-10 18:10:12
What will happen next week? The Judge calls the now non-Democrat prosecutors to come and explain what the frack is going on in this court. They will submit the exact same statement that has already been submitted, that after an internal review of the FBI's procedure, the Justice Department no longer believes in the legitimacy of the charges. That is a fancy way to say that the believe the case is not in following with the law, or unlawful. The Judge will yell at them some, make everyone wait around a bit, then grant the Justice Departments request to dismiss the charges.
Again this is the prosecution requesting to drop the charges, which then agree's with the defenses same request. There is no one in that court room arguing to sustain the charges, so it kinda can only go one way.
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 18:17:58
I like how Saevel is trying to "guarantee" that the trial will be dismissed but then posts an article that says the exact opposite. In fact the article goes out of its way to back up what I have been saying, in that no one knows what the Judge is going to do and nothing is "guaranteed."
Quote: To deny the government’s current motion, in other words, Sullivan would have to distinguish this case from broad and controlling precedent. Particularly given that the government is seeking to dismiss the charge with prejudice (so that no future Justice Department could refile the case), Sullivan could not reasonably conclude that the dismissal is part of any broad pattern designed to harass the defendant. Instead, he would have to read into the Rule 48(a) standard some broader exception for bad faith dismissals. In the alternative, he could perhaps grant the motion but convert it into a motion to dismiss without prejudice. Ruling on a Rule 48(a) motion in 2019 in United States v. Pitts, Sullivan recognized that “there is a strong presumption in favor of a dismissal without prejudice.” In Pitts, in fact, the judge converted a motion to dismiss without prejudice into one with prejudice. But in that case, he did so because the government was seeking a tactical prosecutorial advantage by dismissing without prejudice—which is not the case here. And so, applying the presumption of no prejudice, Sullivan might conceivably convert the government’s motion to one without prejudice. If Sullivan converted the motion, a future Justice Department would be able to refile the case.
One thing Sullivan clearly has the authority to do, however he rules on the motion, is to demand an explanation. The Justice Department’s position in this case is genuinely unusual. The defendant and the government have gone from agreeing that Flynn is guilty of a crime to agreeing that the charge cannot stand without much significant change in underlying facts. What’s more, no career prosecutor who worked the case was willing to sign the government’s brief seeking dismissal. At a minimum, Sullivan clearly has the authority to call the government lawyers before him to defend and account for their decision to dismiss Flynn’s charges.
The Judge could easily interpret a bad faith dismissal, because it is exactly that, a bogus dismissal that all of the prosecutors assigned to the case refused to endorse.
Also, none of those examples apply to this case, there are no "pending charges" or "upcoming trial." The trial is over, Flynn is convicted. He was merely awaiting sentencing. His attempts to withdraw his guilty plea were already being met with skepticism from the Judge, who set a high bar for Flynn to withdraw the plea.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-10 18:18:12
And for any Democrat Flat Earthers out there.
The actual motion to dismiss filed by ... the Prosecution.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6883992/5-7-30-US-Motion-to-Dismiss-Flynn.pdf
Quote: The United States of America hereby moves to dismiss with prejudice the criminal
information filed against Michael T. Flynn pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure
48(a). The Government has determined, pursuant to the Principles of Federal Prosecution and
based on an extensive review and careful consideration of the circumstances, that continued
prosecution of this case would not serve the interests of justice.
Quote: Mr. Flynn entered a guilty plea—which he has since sought to withdraw—to a single
count of making false statements in a January 24, 2017 interview with investigators of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”). See ECF Nos. 3-4. This crime, however, requires a
statement to be not simply false, but “materially” false with respect to a matter under
investigation. 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a)(2). Materiality is an essential element of the offense.
Materiality, moreover, requires more than mere “relevance” or relatedness to the matter being
investigated; it requires “probative weight,” whereby the statement is “reasonably likely to
influence the tribunal in making a determination required to be made.” United States v.
Weinstock, 231 F.2d 699, 701 (D.C. Cir. 1956) (emphasis added).
Quote: After a considered review of all the facts and circumstances of this case, including newly
discovered and disclosed information appended to the defendant’s supplemental pleadings, ECF
Nos. 181, 188-190,1 the Government has concluded that the interview of Mr. Flynn was
untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn—a
no longer justifiably predicated investigation that the FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words,
prepared to close because it had yielded an “absence of any derogatory information.” Ex. 1 at 4,
FBI FD-1057 “Closing Communication” Jan. 4, 2017 (emphases added). The Government is not
persuaded that the January 24, 2017 interview was conducted with a legitimate investigative
basis and therefore does not believe Mr. Flynn’s statements were material even if untrue.
Moreover, we not believe that the Government can prove either the relevant false statements or
their materiality beyond a reasonable doubt.
For those who refuse to read any of that, it basically states that lying by itself is not a crime and that the lie must be material to the investigation. As the investigation itself was unlawful, there can be no materiality to the lie and thus it's impossible for him to of committed a crime in that room.
But none of the Democrats here will listen. It always boils down to this.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange Man VERY VERY BAD
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By Viciouss 2020-05-10 18:22:28
What will happen next week? The Judge calls the now non-Democrat prosecutors to come and explain what the frack is going on in this court. They will submit the exact same statement that has already been submitted, that after an internal review of the FBI's procedure, the Justice Department no longer believes in the legitimacy of the charges. That is a fancy way to say that the believe the case is not in following with the law, or unlawful. The Judge will yell at them some, make everyone wait around a bit, then grant the Justice Departments request to dismiss the charges.
Again this is the prosecution requesting to drop the charges, which then agree's with the defenses same request. There is no one in that court room arguing to sustain the charges, so it kinda can only go one way.
Again, trying to "guarantee" an outcome, no one knows what is going to happen. The Judge can easily deny the motion and continue the sentencing, or appoint an independent special prosecutor (that Trump can't touch) to investigate the DOJ's motives for dismissing the very legitimate charges.
By Viciouss 2020-05-10 18:23:51
And for any Democrat Flat Earthers out there.
The actual motion to dismiss filed by ... the Prosecution.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6883992/5-7-30-US-Motion-to-Dismiss-Flynn.pdf
Quote: The United States of America hereby moves to dismiss with prejudice the criminal
information filed against Michael T. Flynn pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure
48(a). The Government has determined, pursuant to the Principles of Federal Prosecution and
based on an extensive review and careful consideration of the circumstances, that continued
prosecution of this case would not serve the interests of justice.
Quote: Mr. Flynn entered a guilty plea—which he has since sought to withdraw—to a single
count of making false statements in a January 24, 2017 interview with investigators of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”). See ECF Nos. 3-4. This crime, however, requires a
statement to be not simply false, but “materially” false with respect to a matter under
investigation. 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a)(2). Materiality is an essential element of the offense.
Materiality, moreover, requires more than mere “relevance” or relatedness to the matter being
investigated; it requires “probative weight,” whereby the statement is “reasonably likely to
influence the tribunal in making a determination required to be made.” United States v.
Weinstock, 231 F.2d 699, 701 (D.C. Cir. 1956) (emphasis added).
Quote: After a considered review of all the facts and circumstances of this case, including newly
discovered and disclosed information appended to the defendant’s supplemental pleadings, ECF
Nos. 181, 188-190,1 the Government has concluded that the interview of Mr. Flynn was
untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn—a
no longer justifiably predicated investigation that the FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words,
prepared to close because it had yielded an “absence of any derogatory information.” Ex. 1 at 4,
FBI FD-1057 “Closing Communication” Jan. 4, 2017 (emphases added). The Government is not
persuaded that the January 24, 2017 interview was conducted with a legitimate investigative
basis and therefore does not believe Mr. Flynn’s statements were material even if untrue.
Moreover, we not believe that the Government can prove either the relevant false statements or
their materiality beyond a reasonable doubt.
For those who refuse to read any of that, it basically states that lying by itself is not a crime and that the lie must be material to the investigation. As the investigation itself was unlawful, there can be no materiality to the lie and thus it's impossible for him to of committed a crime in that room.
/yawn. Yes, this is the motion that every single prosecutor on the case refused to endorse. Rest assured the Judge will also take note of that little tidbit. Other than that it means nothing.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-05-10 22:54:05
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange Man Trump virus VERY VERY BAD
FTFY
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-05-10 23:17:02
Trump was right when he told his fans that it is okay to drink the kool-aid bleach coronavirus cocktail.
Save yourself, be protected!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-05-11 11:08:21
Former Justice Department official says Barr 'twisted' her words to justify dropping Flynn case
CNN
Quote: A former Justice Department official says Attorney General William Barr "twisted" her words to justify the decision to drop the criminal case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
Mary B. McCord, former acting assistant attorney general for national security, wrote in a New York Times op-ed Sunday that Barr cherry-picked from her 2017 testimony to special counsel Robert Mueller, which the DOJ cited more than 25 times in the motion to dismiss Flynn's case. She said her testimony is "no support for Mr. Barr's dismissal of the Flynn case."
"It does not suggest that the F.B.I. had no counterintelligence reason for investigating Mr. Flynn," she wrote. "It does not suggest that the F.B.I.'s interview of Mr. Flynn — which led to the false-statements charge — was unlawful or unjustified. It does not support that Mr. Flynn's false statements were not material."
McCord continued, "And it does not support the Justice Department's assertion that the continued prosecution of the case against Mr. Flynn, who pleaded guilty to knowingly making material false statements to the FBI, 'would not serve the interests of justice.'" ...
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-11 11:15:34
"Formor" huh, sounds like one of the Democrats who jumped ship. Oh and look the NYT, next it'll be WaPo.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-05-11 11:24:44
Damn no edit button.
The FBI went to close the case due to lack of evidence. The actual paperwork is on file and part of the record, no amount of Democat rewriting history changes that. Peter Strzok, yes that Strzok, then sent an email telling them to not close the case and that senior FBI officials were involved and wanted it kept open. Those are the same Democrats involved with the "I can wear a wiretap when I speak with the President next". Yes that's on record too, no it wasn't a joke because the record shows very clearly they were strategizing on ways to get incriminating evidence on the President.
Later those same Senior FBI officials, Strzok and a handful of Democrats had a sit down brain storm session on how to get Flynn to lie so they could put him in jail or get him fired. This is known as entrapment and extremely discouraged with a ton of rulings and guidelines.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/entrapment-basics-33987.html
The police can not induce or persuade you to commit a crime. They can lay the groundwork and pretext but they can't push you into it. What Strzok and the other Democrats did as to push Flynn into making false statements. They said as much in their meeting.
By Viciouss 2020-05-11 13:43:37
Former Justice Department official says Barr 'twisted' her words to justify dropping Flynn case
CNN
Quote: A former Justice Department official says Attorney General William Barr "twisted" her words to justify the decision to drop the criminal case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
Mary B. McCord, former acting assistant attorney general for national security, wrote in a New York Times op-ed Sunday that Barr cherry-picked from her 2017 testimony to special counsel Robert Mueller, which the DOJ cited more than 25 times in the motion to dismiss Flynn's case. She said her testimony is "no support for Mr. Barr's dismissal of the Flynn case."
"It does not suggest that the F.B.I. had no counterintelligence reason for investigating Mr. Flynn," she wrote. "It does not suggest that the F.B.I.'s interview of Mr. Flynn — which led to the false-statements charge — was unlawful or unjustified. It does not support that Mr. Flynn's false statements were not material."
McCord continued, "And it does not support the Justice Department's assertion that the continued prosecution of the case against Mr. Flynn, who pleaded guilty to knowingly making material false statements to the FBI, 'would not serve the interests of justice.'" ...
More cause for the Judge to open an investigation and deny the motion to dismiss, two completely possible outcomes.
When you have to talk trump do it here.
Positive, negative, I don't care.
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