ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!
ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!
I guess he had another little league town hall on Fox news yesterday, not too sure why he was talking about AIDS but uh, he couldn't even get that right. Every administration since the 90s has dedicated billions to stamping out AIDS...
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Yes but during the Brit invasion at least stuff was posted. It may not have been worthwhile stuff, but it was better than doldrums.
They were such polar opposites too. Directx seemed to be a voice of reason, but Kireek...man, he posted some insane stuff.
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Looks like Trump is ready to throw Fauci under the bus.
Trump defends the US's bungled coronavirus response by saying Fauci told him 'it's not going to be a big deal'
Trump defends the US's bungled coronavirus response by saying Fauci told him 'it's not going to be a big deal'
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Fauci has been under the bus for a month already, bench pressing it while trump shovels more ***onto the bus trying to crush him.
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Viciouss said: »
I guess he had another little league town hall on Fox news yesterday, not too sure why he was talking about AIDS but uh, he couldn't even get that right. Every administration since the 90s has dedicated billions to stamping out AIDS...
Howler monkey behavior.
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That one in the middle has more money than brains, $2000 base price for the FN f2000 last I checked. Far right best have a $200 tax SBG tax stamp or ATFE would like a word, other three probably have home builds, best I can tell from a photo.
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basic Chinese AK's a Remington 700 clone on the left, can't tel far right, but still probably better shots than the *** on the bottom. They're also missing the fat chick.
That one in the middle has more money than brains, $2000 base price for the FN f2000 last I checked. Far right best have a $200 tax SBG tax stamp or ATFE would like a word, other three probably have home builds, best I can tell from a photo.
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basic Chinese AK's a Remington 700 clone on the left, can't tel far right, but still probably better shots than the *** on the bottom. They're also missing the fat chick.
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People prepared to fight.
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People with penis substitutes.
People prepared to fight.
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People with penis substitutes.
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Kinda prophetic
Quote:
Warning,
Post hypnotic suggestions,
Running the ships ashore,
The orange light that follows,
Will soon proclaim itself a God,
If you point your questions,
The fog will surely chew you up,
But if you want the answers,
You better get ready for the fire!
Post hypnotic suggestions,
Running the ships ashore,
The orange light that follows,
Will soon proclaim itself a God,
If you point your questions,
The fog will surely chew you up,
But if you want the answers,
You better get ready for the fire!
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I remember the Y'all Qaeda!
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Looks like the Justice Department is finally dropping the Flynn case at the recommendation of Jeff Jensen, the U.S. attorney overseeing the case.
Among the e-mails and notes he was given was one from a senior FBI official that said, “What’s our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”
Among the e-mails and notes he was given was one from a senior FBI official that said, “What’s our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”
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Yeah, Flynn lied all on his own well before he even spoke to the FBI. No one forced him to lie to the Vice President. He got fired by two Presidents for being a scumbag. He was guilty. He was never gonna get jailtime anyways, he should have walked away with the deal 2 years ago. Oh well.
It’s just one of those situations where if he really is a guilty scumbag, then maybe it would have been better to play it by the book instead of resorting to scumbag tactics just to entrap him. It would be nice to have at least one group in Washington that isn’t corrupt.
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Like I said, he lied to the Vice President all on his own. That was a choice he made, before the FBI was even involved
Viciouss said: »
Like I said, he lied to the Vice President all on his own. That was a choice he made, before the FBI was even involved
Yes, but was that a crime? The crime was lying to the FBI, which used questionable tactics to make that happen in the first place. Whether or not Flynn is a lying scumbag in general is irrelevant, because otherwise we wouldn’t have any politicians left.
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It's not a crime, HOWEVER, it's certainly a firable offense. I'm seeing Fox News running with the Flynn is a victim story for 2 years now about how this case cost him his career, his savings, his reputation, and it's a bunch of ***. The only person responsible for ruining Mike Flynn's life is Mike Flynn. He got fired by two Presidents, and we are supposed to believe someone else ruined his career? Nah.
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Fair enough. I just view lying in general as status quo Washington (unfortunately).
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It should be noted that the Judge of the case has yet to actually dismiss the charges. That's notable because the same judge has issued quite a few withering rebukes to Flynn's legal argument that he was a victim of FBI entrapment, even pointing out that Flynn lied to the VP on his own.
The Judge was already leery of Flynn withdrawing his guilty plea, so that's definitely something to keep an eye on. Just because the Trump DOJ wants to drop the charges, doesn't mean it will happen.
The Judge was already leery of Flynn withdrawing his guilty plea, so that's definitely something to keep an eye on. Just because the Trump DOJ wants to drop the charges, doesn't mean it will happen.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Looks like the Justice Department is finally dropping the Flynn case at the recommendation of Jeff Jensen, the U.S. attorney overseeing the case.
Among the e-mails and notes he was given was one from a senior FBI official that said, “What’s our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”
Among the e-mails and notes he was given was one from a senior FBI official that said, “What’s our goal? Truth/admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”
Many moons ago I think I mentioned something like this would eventually happen.
Senior Democrat officials at the FBI, CIA and DoJ can only break the rules so much if they don't have cover from the Oval Office. Should President Trump win another term, which looks to be the case, I foresee a bunch of retirements from those Senior Democrats being submitted early next year.
Here's the thing, FBI agents don't just go off half cocked like that, they wouldn't of done such a brazenly unethical thing without approval from Comey and Senior DoJ officials first. So here's the thing, if they were this open and unethical with Flynn, what did they do to the rest that we don't know about?
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/yawn.
Wait, the justice department is dropping charges right?
The same justice department that has Bill Barr at its helm?
/shocked...
The same justice department that has Bill Barr at its helm?
/shocked...
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Yeah. Apparently lying to the FBI is A-Ok when Billy Barr is Attorney General....unless you’re name is Jeffery Epstein.
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I would imagine the judge will want to hear an explanation before agreeing to dismiss the case. Flynn's guilt was beyond doubt. I would also expect the IG to investigate the decision making that went into dropping the case.
I’m sure that IG will be asked to resign shortly.
Honestly all the questions the IG could ask can be asked by the Judge. Given Barr's bogus explanation today, he better work on those answers.
It’s ok Trump is already accusing the DoJ under Obama of treason. Clearly the man doesn’t see the irony or the impact of such an argument of his own assertion of total immunity.
But hey, his fans will “think” it has complete merit.
But hey, his fans will “think” it has complete merit.
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Judge could stop Trump DOJ from dropping case
Legal pundits are already weigning in, sharing the opinion that the Judge isn't likely to just dismiss the case. Flynn is guilty, he entered a guilty plea, the judge accepted it, he stands convicted and is awaiting sentencing. The Trump DOJ's opinion really doesn't matter, they were just there to give a sentencing recommendation which the Judge can completely ignore.
Quote:
The Department of Justice on Thursday told U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington it wants to drop the case against Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, following a pressure campaign by the Republican president and his political allies.
While judges typically sign off on such motions, Sullivan could refuse and instead demand answers from the DOJ about who requested the sudden about-face, said Seth Waxman, a former federal prosecutor now at the law firm Dickinson Wright.
“If Judge Sullivan wanted to he could conduct an inquiry and start asking a lot of questions,” said Waxman.
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The Justice Department said in a court filing on Thursday it is no longer persuaded that the FBI’s January 2017 interview with Flynn that led to the charges was conducted with a “legitimate investigative basis” and does not think Flynn’s statements were “material even if untrue.”
While the judge still has to rule on the submission, elated supporters of Flynn said there was no way Sullivan could force the department to prosecute if it did not want to. But the judge could stop Flynn from withdrawing his guilty plea and impose sentence. In that case, Trump could pardon Flynn.
The judge is unlikely to sign off on the request as a pro forma matter, said Channing Phillips, the former acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia during the Obama administration, adding that with Sullivan “nothing is pro forma.”
“I can guarantee you, he is going to question the prosecutors,” Phillips said in a phone interview. “He is going to want to understand exactly the basis for this motion ... You have a new attorney general. You have a new U.S. attorney. You have new prosecutors who take a different position. But the facts haven’t changed.”
Sullivan, 72, was appointed to the federal bench in 1994 by former Democratic President Bill Clinton and is known for an independent streak, often delivering strong rebukes of conduct he views as unjust.
While judges typically sign off on such motions, Sullivan could refuse and instead demand answers from the DOJ about who requested the sudden about-face, said Seth Waxman, a former federal prosecutor now at the law firm Dickinson Wright.
“If Judge Sullivan wanted to he could conduct an inquiry and start asking a lot of questions,” said Waxman.
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The Justice Department said in a court filing on Thursday it is no longer persuaded that the FBI’s January 2017 interview with Flynn that led to the charges was conducted with a “legitimate investigative basis” and does not think Flynn’s statements were “material even if untrue.”
While the judge still has to rule on the submission, elated supporters of Flynn said there was no way Sullivan could force the department to prosecute if it did not want to. But the judge could stop Flynn from withdrawing his guilty plea and impose sentence. In that case, Trump could pardon Flynn.
The judge is unlikely to sign off on the request as a pro forma matter, said Channing Phillips, the former acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia during the Obama administration, adding that with Sullivan “nothing is pro forma.”
“I can guarantee you, he is going to question the prosecutors,” Phillips said in a phone interview. “He is going to want to understand exactly the basis for this motion ... You have a new attorney general. You have a new U.S. attorney. You have new prosecutors who take a different position. But the facts haven’t changed.”
Sullivan, 72, was appointed to the federal bench in 1994 by former Democratic President Bill Clinton and is known for an independent streak, often delivering strong rebukes of conduct he views as unjust.
Legal pundits are already weigning in, sharing the opinion that the Judge isn't likely to just dismiss the case. Flynn is guilty, he entered a guilty plea, the judge accepted it, he stands convicted and is awaiting sentencing. The Trump DOJ's opinion really doesn't matter, they were just there to give a sentencing recommendation which the Judge can completely ignore.
There had to be a legitimate investigative purpose for the interview. If the primary purpose of the interview was to set up a perjury trap instead of obtaining evidence pertaining to the investigation (which unsealed documents show was a clear possibility) then the perjury is inadmissible. I suppose it's similar to how evidence obtained by illegal searches is inadmissible.
Either way, it's a huge gray area that actual lawyers and judges will have to work out instead of armchair internet lawyers. This never would have happened if the investigators (and yes, Flynn too) had some actual integrity, though.
Either way, it's a huge gray area that actual lawyers and judges will have to work out instead of armchair internet lawyers. This never would have happened if the investigators (and yes, Flynn too) had some actual integrity, though.
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