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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 14:11:46  
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There are 130 thousand homeless people in California, they are all fully allowed to vote.

I would think so, considering losing your home doesn't disqualify you from your rights as a US citizen.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 14:12:13  
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There are 130 thousand homeless people in California, they are all fully allowed to vote.

I don't think anyone is arguing that, but please move the goalpost back to its previous position.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-18 14:39:42  
Trump is boringly predictable at this point so nobody gets enraged by him anymore.

Now his ardent supporters on the other hand relish in trolling and enraging the “liberals”.

Because how much we can enrage the other side is the mature and responsible philosophy to politics and governance
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 14:42:16  
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Trump is boringly predictable at this point so nobody gets enraged by him anymore.

Oh wow, if only this were true.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 14:43:56  
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Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

Wow, completely moving the goalposts on your own conspiracy theory.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 15:04:11  
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Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

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Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

I think this is why many are referring to you as Nausi, he used to do this exact same thing. Come up with ideas in his head, and then post them as fact.

Yes, there are a lot of homeless in California. You know what their daily focus is? Surviving. I don't know if you've interacted much with homeless people, but the vast majority have either drug or mental health issues, sometimes both. They couldn't care less about voting. They don't come to California because of politics. They come to California because of the moderate temperature and weather...so they don't freeze overnight.

The idea that people are picking them up and taking them to polling locations is insane.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-18 15:10:08  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Trump is boringly predictable at this point so nobody gets enraged by him anymore.

Oh wow, if only this were true.

Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Now his ardent supporters on the other hand relish in trolling and enraging the “liberals”.
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By Lakshmi.Leosin 2020-02-18 15:33:32  
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Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

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Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

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Says the Brit spreading propaganda in the hopes of influencing the 2020 election.

REEEEEEEEEEE!
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By Odin.Slore 2020-02-18 15:37:14  
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the FBI swinging the election for Trump certainly hurt Clinton tho. The Russian collusion story didn't come until after the election, it certainly did not help the Dems before it.

Call me a nut all you want but I still say that was a dem hitjob on her. Comey hated Trump and that late investigation announcement hurt her bad. He sure as hell didn't do it for love of Trump.
 
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By Odin.Slore 2020-02-18 15:43:10  
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So homelessness is up under Trump, and you're using that to bash the opposition?

How is Trump going to solve Cali's homelessness problem? It is a dem super majority there. They control every branch of government in the state, which also means they control all the purse strings.

Remember the billions for the "high speed rail" that they took for years that was never even started? Yeah give them more federal money they doing a great job with it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 15:53:44  
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kireek said: »
Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

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Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

I think this is why many are referring to you as Nausi, he used to do this exact same thing. Come up with ideas in his head, and then post them as fact.

Yes, there are a lot of homeless in California. You know what their daily focus is? Surviving. I don't know if you've interacted much with homeless people, but the vast majority have either drug or mental health issues, sometimes both. They couldn't care less about voting. They don't come to California because of politics. They come to California because of the moderate temperature and weather...so they don't freeze overnight.

The idea that people are picking them up and taking them to polling locations is insane.

It’s not that they are necessarily being picked up and dropped off to vote. There are many flavors of voter fraud.

Election fraud scheme bribed LA homeless with cigarettes for signatures, prosecutors say
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 16:03:35  
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Odin.Slore said: »
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So homelessness is up under Trump, and you're using that to bash the opposition?

How is Trump going to solve Cali's homelessness problem? It is a dem super majority there. They control every branch of government in the state, which also means they control all the purse strings.

Remember the billions for the "high speed rail" that they took for years that was never even started? Yeah give them more federal money they doing a great job with it.
Well I don't really know how it works there but the leading party is responsible for everything in the UK, which is kinda the whole point of politics.

Even if an opposition MP holds a seat in a town/city it is the government's responsibility to ensure quality of life etc, not the elected person for that area.

Yeah, it’s a different ballgame here. The individual states are more autonomous, but there is an ongoing struggle of state power vs. federal power. In general, conservatives favor state rights while liberals favor centralized power.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 16:22:13  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
kireek said: »
Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

YouTube Video Placeholder


Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

I think this is why many are referring to you as Nausi, he used to do this exact same thing. Come up with ideas in his head, and then post them as fact.

Yes, there are a lot of homeless in California. You know what their daily focus is? Surviving. I don't know if you've interacted much with homeless people, but the vast majority have either drug or mental health issues, sometimes both. They couldn't care less about voting. They don't come to California because of politics. They come to California because of the moderate temperature and weather...so they don't freeze overnight.

The idea that people are picking them up and taking them to polling locations is insane.

It’s not that they are necessarily being picked up and dropped off to vote. There are many flavors of voter fraud.

Election fraud scheme bribed LA homeless with cigarettes for signatures, prosecutors say

Wow...that is a stretch. Getting signatures on a petition isn't remotely close to Nausi's claim they vote in the elections.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 16:25:05  
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DirectX said: »
So homelessness is up under Trump, and you're using that to bash the opposition?

How is Trump going to solve Cali's homelessness problem? It is a dem super majority there. They control every branch of government in the state, which also means they control all the purse strings.

Remember the billions for the "high speed rail" that they took for years that was never even started? Yeah give them more federal money they doing a great job with it.
Well I don't really know how it works there but the leading party is responsible for everything in the UK, which is kinda the whole point of politics.

Even if an opposition MP holds a seat in a town/city it is the government's responsibility to ensure quality of life etc, not the elected person for that area.

If it is a good thing for the US, then it must be due to Trump. If it is a bad thing, it's due to anyone other than Trump.

California is one of the United States, and Trump being the President of those United States doesn't count apparently.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 16:26:44  
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Who has control of the money?

Each entity has its own money.
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By Lakshmi.Leosin 2020-02-18 16:35:06  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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kireek said: »
Califnornia is one of teh richest places on earth, a Democrat super majority no less. Surely they care about these people?

They can pass whatever laws they want, they can do whatever they want. They could fix the homeless issue if they wanted to, they don't seem to want to.

YouTube Video Placeholder


Again, given a) all these people can vote b) population numbers (including homelsss) are counted towards the house seats and c) these people wil vote for santa clause if you give them some cigarettes for it it's a bit fishy there are so many and they never help them to get better lives.

I think this is why many are referring to you as Nausi, he used to do this exact same thing. Come up with ideas in his head, and then post them as fact.

Yes, there are a lot of homeless in California. You know what their daily focus is? Surviving. I don't know if you've interacted much with homeless people, but the vast majority have either drug or mental health issues, sometimes both. They couldn't care less about voting. They don't come to California because of politics. They come to California because of the moderate temperature and weather...so they don't freeze overnight.

The idea that people are picking them up and taking them to polling locations is insane.

It’s not that they are necessarily being picked up and dropped off to vote. There are many flavors of voter fraud.

Election fraud scheme bribed LA homeless with cigarettes for signatures, prosecutors say

Wow...that is a stretch. Getting signatures on a petition isn't remotely close to Nausi's claim they vote in the elections.

They DO vote, just not the ridiculous numbers that were claimed.
Vanishingly scarce, realistically.
Akin to the "Illegals being led by the millions to sway the vote for and orchestrated by the Libruls!!!!"
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-18 16:40:14  
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Nausi's claim

This is starting to get really childish.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 16:48:08  
Let's just re emphasize that it is not illegal for homeless people to vote. Nor has any evidence that either party is "helping them vote."
 
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-02-18 16:55:21  
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Nausi's claim

This is starting to get really childish.

Just starting?
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 16:59:07  
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Correct me if I'm wrong but house seats are divided up to states based on population numbers (more population, more seats).

The Democrat super majority states have mass homeless issues to ridiculous levels and are also "sanctuary cities" for illegals to get even more from other states, they don't even attempt to actually help these people they just exist there.

Both of these two things boost their population numbers very high, which in term helps them get more seats in the house.

So it's not just about voter manipulation.

Yea, completely wrong.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-02-18 17:09:48  
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Correct me if I'm wrong but house seats are divided up to states based on population numbers (more population, more seats).

The Democrat super majority states have mass homeless issues to ridiculous levels and are also "sanctuary cities" for illegals to get even more from other states, they don't even attempt to actually help these people they just exist there.

Both of these two things boost their population numbers very high, which in term helps them get more seats in the house.

So it's not just about voter manipulation.

Yes, which is why the founders also sought to create a second higher chamber where each state had the same voice, we call it the Senate. California has 53 of the 435 house seats but only 2 out of 100 senate seats.

The existence of the Senate coupled with their much longer term times balances our the insanity that happens in the House.
 
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By Viciouss 2020-02-18 17:18:50  
Why bother? Saevel just spammed a completely unrelated post about the Senate that has nothing to do with the topic.
 
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