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Rush Limbaugh getting the medal of freedom was a giant slap in the face to anyone that doesn't have their head up their ***.

Vic, do I have your permission to truncate some of our replies to each other?

I’m not sure why you think that. Obama handed them out like candy. I’d say the only award that still carries massive significance is the Medal of Honor.

As for Betos Spanish, I let it go, as I said yesterday, they will say anything to get votes. Beto wasn't bad, but Buttigieg was better, and there was only room for one of them.

Uh, yes.

I don't want anyone speaking Spanish at me to get my vote. It feels as if they are crouching down to speak to a toddler on their level. I felt patronized.

Maybe because Rush had made his career out of denigrating African Ameri, specifically, black athletes?

Maybe because Rush had made his career out of denigrating African Ameri, specifically, black athletes?

That’s a stretch. But if we’re going down that route, it’s not like controversial people never win awards.

Like I said I let it go, I wasn't big on Beto, then the El Paso shooting happened, it didn't feel like that moment, which only happened the once, really mattered that much.

Russian Collusion. The Mueller Report found nothing on it.

page 157

"Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations.

The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General' s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony."

Page 8 Paragraph 3 & Page 182, paragraph 1 (CONCLUSION)

" if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

((( B )))-----Mueller did not indict Chump because of DOJ policy of not indicting a president and said accusing Chump of committing a crime would place burdens on his ability to carry out his Constitutional duties.------

Page 1, Paragraph 4:

"We first describe the considerations that guided our obstruction-of-justice investigation...:

The Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) has issued an opinion finding that "the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions " in violation of "the constitutional separation of powers." ... this Office accepted OLC ' s legal conclusion for the purpose of exercising prosecutorial jurisdiction.

And....we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct. "

Volume II, Page 15, Paragraph 2

"Consistent with our jurisdiction to investigate federal obstruction crimes, we gathered evidence that is relevant to the elements of those crimes and analyzed them...while refraining from reaching ultimate conclusions about whether crimes were committed,..."

((( C )))----Mueller said Congress should apply the laws to his findings because no one is above the law.----------------

Page 8, Paragraph 2

"....we concluded that in the rare case in which a criminal investigation of the President' s conduct is justified, inquiries to determine whether the President acted for a corrupt motive should not impermissibly chill his performance of his constitutionally assigned duties. The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law."

Stone was found guilty in November of lying to Congress and obstructing the Russia investigation to protect Trump and his presidential campaign. He's scheduled to be sentenced Feb. 20.

His convictions stem from his actions in 2016, when he sought to create back-channel communications with WikiLeaks to find out about stolen emails that were damaging to then-Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and to push for their release.

Stone repeatedly lied to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts, falsely denying that he talked to the Trump campaign about them. He also urged a possible congressional witness to either lie or scuttle his testimony. The committee at that time was investigating Russia's election interference.



Five other former Trump campaign aides and allies pleaded guilty or were convicted as a result of the Mueller investigation.

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to making false statements to investigators about his contacts with a Russian ambassador. But Flynn has since withdrawn his guilty plea, accusing prosecutors of forcing the former Army general to admit to crimes he didn't commit.

Prosecutors have asked that Flynn be sentenced to up to six months in prison, though in court filings Wednesday they said they're also open to probation.

Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman, is serving more than seven years in prison after he was convicted of several charges, including fraud.

Michael Cohen, Trump's former personal attorney, is serving three years in prison for lying to Congress and other crimes.

Former campaign aide Rick Gates was sentenced to 45 days in jail, which he can serve intermittently over three years while he's on probation.

Former campaign adviser George Papadopoulous served a two-week sentence for lying to investigators about his contacts with Russians.

I’m not sure why you think that. Obama handed them out like candy. I’d say the only award that still carries massive significance is the Medal of Honor.

While it did not prove that Trump orchestrated the collusion, it did conclude that Russia did influence the election, and that Trump attempted to obstruct the investigation:

Thats not what I said tho. I said Trump is fabricating a Biden scandal, which he is. Joe Biden isn't being investigated by anyone, has done nothing wrong, nor has any evidence of wrongdoing been brought forth. Trump is just inventing a scandal out of thin air. The same cannot be said about all of his scandals.

The only ones Obama handed out that I believe are undeserved are the ones he gave to Buffet, Clinton and Biden.
None of those people even come close to the raging racist shitstain that is Limbaugh.

Yeah, given how loosely that term had been thrown around for the past several years, I’m going to take the racism claims with a grain of salt.

Rush wants to rename the NBA to the TBA, Thug Basketball League. He also said the NFL is a bunch of gangs wearing not uniforms but gang colors, similar to the Bloods and Crips, without weapons. Just two. Its a pretty long list. They aren't "claims" either, he is a racist.

Yeah, no thanks. I’ll go find his actual quotes. Nothing there is any more racist than things Bloomberg has said and he isn’t a pariah.

Not disputing that. The point was, that one side can investigate the other, and it's all ok. When the other side does it back, it's the second coming of Hitler.

My point is, like here, there are two sets of rules. Rules that one side can break time and again, without repercussions, and rules for the other side, that if you step out of line, BAM! repercussions.

Is asking for the same standard and rules to be applied to all sides, so wrong?

Have at it. Like I said, decades of attacks on black athletes have given us plenty of fodder. I think there was a time when ESPN inexplicably gave him a job as an analyst and he was out by Week 4 for attacking Donovan McNabb because he was black.