Happy Thanksbanning!

They banned someone for shaming someone with a parser. Deserved.

Banned a streamer. Big deal, they're no more special than anyone else.

I dont advocate for the harassing behavior that happened to said player for incompetence gameplay. But I'm more than shock that anyone is defending someone who knew exactly what he was doing, joining a endgame content, and not even performing to an adequate level for that content. Like why bother at all to join if you know you're not performing at the level required for that raid, basically just wants a free carry.

It's like joining an end game event and basically leeching it and someone calls that person out, Or in a sense, imagine doing dynamis wave 3, and theres a DD whose accuracy is sub 25% and basically whiffing. [ yes I know you can clear w3 with 9x leech now, but in regards to Ultimate Savage in XIV you cant ]

Are you going to just slap the dude on his shoulder and say, "you're doing great keep at it!"

like who the *** is trying to kid themselves that ffxiv is above WoW and free from toxic elitism?

server?

I've been on a rampage on the STF reports and I don't really care who hates me for it.

Through the last week I've had people both cheer me on for killing the bots and pissed off at me calling me a sadist and whatever else. At one point, there was literally 5 AFK bot groups dead in Dho Gates last week and a room full of mobs for real players to enjoy.

I was doing shouts in Dho Gates like "Botting is bad for your character's health!" and "If you want to pay for CP, find a real player to pay and stop paying bots and Chinese RMT" and once I had them all dead, "Dho Gates is now a bot free area" to which someone replied in shout "he really did it!" or something like that. At one point I had someone helping me mess with the bots.

I spent several hours last week after getting off work each night messing with bots in Dho Gates and reporting them to STF.

And I've done reporting in the weeks before that, too, but I really went ham last week.

I've got screen shots of one set of the Chinese farmers telling me line after line of chat in /tell in Chinese (English Letters). None of which did I reply. I'm pretty sure he was mad that I got all his bots killed over and over right after he'd set them up. It was hilarious because the bots' actions were so predictable, and once he turned the bots on, there wasn't anything he could do to counter what I was doing to get him killed. I took screen shots of his communications, but haven't run it through my phone's camera/translate app, yet. Might be a fun story in those chats.

And another Chinese farmer, who spoke English well enough, who was running two bot parties simultaneously selling CP, actually brought his PLD (that he claims he never bots on), out to help his two bot parties and trying to prevent them from dying.

I made him hold an Apex Bat on the PLD for what must've been 2hours. He mentioned several times that it must be a waste of time for me and that surely there was something else I could be doing. He also mentioned a few times how come I wasn't messing with the other bots. To which I told him that I had. Anyway, I had claim on the bat, but his bot group had threat on it as well and then the PLD came out and cured his bot party to get on the hate list and then he popped off Sentinel and self cured/phalanx from there. He really wanted to get back to farming Malignance Gears on the character he'd come out on PLD on; he said he was spamming VE on THF. I think he said he was just missing the hat. He made jokes about how the bat was like flies. Wouldn't leave him alone. I learned he was previously an international student and that he does his two parties across two computers. He has an Intel CPU preference. Lots of other stuff. In the end he really wanted me to end this (the bat that I had claim on that his PLD was holding). I told him that he charges people to kill stuff for them, and here you are wanting me to kill something for free for you?

Humorous to me, I've basically got him sending me a Popper (firework) every day to not mess with his bots rofl. Some seriously soft-level extortion going on. The guy is pretty smart, humorous, and probably a great guy to know and play with. He made a comment that I was interesting to talk with, as well.

Bottom line for me, I'm tired of bots. And that's what I tried to convey to him.

I keep an STF report tab open in my browser all the time now.

Personally, I don't a whole lot care if you're using windower for something like gear swap or even automated echo drops. I don't even care if you put a BRD on auto follow and have it doing automated songs. What pisses me off, is full-on automated play. If you're not at the computer, and your characters are doing ***, I'm reporting you.

Dho Gates (asura) I'm claiming as a bot free zone, now. Test me.

For me personally, it comes to what I do for a living. If someone in your group is not performing to your "personal standards", remove them. Plain and simple. People who feel its necessary to yell at others, call them names, publicly try to shame them, etc are worse than someone trying to leech.

Some people forget, not everyone plays these games all day long. So when someone feels the need to do the aforementioned actions, remember, not everyone is as super awesome as you are.

I agree fully with fillerbunny9. There was a picture of Yoshi flipping off with a frown face after being asked about putting in an in-game parser. Sure, people have parsed for a long time but it's used more often than not, to try shaming others or to brag. If you're using it to improve, you don't need to broadcast scores.


I read people trying to say that very thing once in a while. It's people who know better trying to get others going. FFXIV was far worse than FFXI was for elitism. In FFXI's glory days, you had a rude person or idiot once in a while and the occasional person who thought they were God's gift to the game, but FFXIV is infested with them. Join random duties and see people who insist they're carrying everyone else when they're not, threatening people for not playing meta, etc.

the "problem" has to do with the ability to queue everything up and get matched with anyone from your data center. in something like XI, we were/are far more insular. you ONLY played with the people on your server, so it was very easy to weed out those egos due to them gaining a reputation. something even as simple as a name change required a ton of song and dance to accomplish on XI, whereas in XIV it's just you and your credit card to solve the issue.

they explicitly added a don't be a *** policy

This forum needs this.

This forum needs this.

If they enforced that rule no one would be able to post.

It should be clear by now, but you can never kill a bot/RMT because they are immortals.

Vanillas come and go.

Bots and RMT run an infinite loop.

And this guy will get banned for mpking them