Warrior: DW/Fencer/Polearm/H2H/Ranged.
Warrior: DW/Fencer/Polearm/H2H/Ranged.
Those new fencer builds should have the Aurgelmir +1 for ammo instead if posting BIS. I have yet to swap the sailfi belt +1 into my tp set as I hate giving up 17 accuracy but i'd wager it comes out ahead by a slim margin over a long enough parse. That first set though is basically what I have been using for TP for a while and it holds up really well versus all comers.
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Why couldn't we use Cloudsplitter? For example in ddyna, if our group is doing mage buffs/debuffs.
Specifically for Dyna D , cloudsplitter builds take a LOT of buffing. War makes a good enough tank for wave 1-2 if you have physical damage maxed out. However, if you are making war use a magical weaponskill you STILL need buffs for TP gain and acc as well as macc mab etc to make it work. It is frustrating how much effort you have to put into it to make it shine. It just doesn't work well. Sure you can make cloudsplitter hit hard, but it takes more effort than it is worth.
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
WAR has to have some advantage is lower man setups?
Hey all, apologize for being absent these last 4 months. Some of you have sent me messages and I have tried to reply back to them all. I have returned and I must say I am happy to see everyone is liking/using this thread for new fun ways to play WARRIOR #Warcry!!
I am currently trying to get caught up on updates to sets. I Have added another SB and ID set. Also before I left I had made Renaud's Axe and loved it. I put a foot note in SB.
Have also added a section Spiral Hell. Anything you would like me to add shoot me a message.
Thanks!
Edit: I have also added a new Fencer Hybrid.
ItemSet 373186
An old school piece may have been brought back to light. Can thank the Sailfi Belt +1. The following sets behind it are short of haste cap with out the Tempus Fugit. Watch for that when trying to replace it with Sailfi Belt +1.
I am currently trying to get caught up on updates to sets. I Have added another SB and ID set. Also before I left I had made Renaud's Axe and loved it. I put a foot note in SB.
Have also added a section Spiral Hell. Anything you would like me to add shoot me a message.
Thanks!
Edit: I have also added a new Fencer Hybrid.
ItemSet 373186
An old school piece may have been brought back to light. Can thank the Sailfi Belt +1. The following sets behind it are short of haste cap with out the Tempus Fugit. Watch for that when trying to replace it with Sailfi Belt +1.
Wouldn't these swaps be better for that build?
Odin head > flamma+2 (+4 haste, -1 STP, -6 DA, +5 TA, - 10 DT)
Empy legs > AF+3 (-2 haste, +5 DA, +56 acc, +5 PDT)
Blitz ring > moonlight ring (-1 haste, +110 HP, +5 STP, +8acc/att, +5 DT)
Odin head > flamma+2 (+4 haste, -1 STP, -6 DA, +5 TA, - 10 DT)
Empy legs > AF+3 (-2 haste, +5 DA, +56 acc, +5 PDT)
Blitz ring > moonlight ring (-1 haste, +110 HP, +5 STP, +8acc/att, +5 DT)
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Yes. That would work as well! Very well actually lol. Good Eye! Guess I'm a bit rusty.
Asura.Mysticzero said: »
Hey all, apologize for being absent these last 4 months. Some of you have sent me messages and I have tried to reply back to them all. I have returned and I must say I am happy to see everyone is liking/using this thread for new fun ways to play WARRIOR #Warcry!!
I am currently trying to get caught up on updates to sets. I Have added another SB and ID set. Also before I left I had made Renaud's Axe and loved it. I put a foot note in SB.
Have also added a section Spiral Hell. Anything you would like me to add shoot me a message.
Thanks!
Edit: I have also added a new Fencer Hybrid.
ItemSet 373186
An old school piece may have been brought back to light. Can thank the Sailfi Belt +1. The following sets behind it are short of haste cap with out the Tempus Fugit. Watch for that when trying to replace it with Sailfi Belt +1.
I am currently trying to get caught up on updates to sets. I Have added another SB and ID set. Also before I left I had made Renaud's Axe and loved it. I put a foot note in SB.
Have also added a section Spiral Hell. Anything you would like me to add shoot me a message.
Thanks!
Edit: I have also added a new Fencer Hybrid.
ItemSet 373186
An old school piece may have been brought back to light. Can thank the Sailfi Belt +1. The following sets behind it are short of haste cap with out the Tempus Fugit. Watch for that when trying to replace it with Sailfi Belt +1.
What's the incentive of those pants if TP Bonus from Fencer only applies to the WS? You're just gaining 2% critical rate while sacrificing a whole lot more.
I figured he was probably using them because they have more haste than AF pants with a still decent amount of DA.
Crossbones said: »
I figured he was probably using them because they have more haste than AF pants with a still decent amount of DA.
Yes that is what i was doing^^;
Sorry I didn't catch that. Seems like a major downgrade though to just using Tempus + AF+3 pants and a Niqmaddu or Moonlight instead.
I've never been a super huge fan of tempus but then again I've also never been a huge fan of odin helm either. I can definitely see the value going either way though. Personally trading the TA for the DA and worrying more about haste is too much of a hassle. That's just me though. If you DW and have an odin sword it's not nearly as big a deal, which is what I typically do if I ever play WAR (which is almost never). I find ambu axe/odin sword to be the best all around play style, especially if you wanna rock both odin pieces. Don't really care much for chango unless guaranteed to SC often and to me fencer is pretty yuck (slower attack speed, gotta worry about haste samba). Good thing about WAR is you can pick pretty much any weapon combo and still do really good DPS so it doesn't matter much either way in the end.
Crossbones said: »
I find ambu axe/odin sword to be the best all around play style, especially if you wanna rock both odin pieces. Don't really care much for chango unless guaranteed to SC often and to me fencer is pretty yuck (slower attack speed, gotta worry about haste samba). Good thing about WAR is you can pick pretty much any weapon combo and still do really good DPS so it doesn't matter much either way in the end.
This is pretty much where I'm at. Dolichenus/Zantetsuken most of the time when I'm on warrior. Very simple to gear for plus it skillchains with Savage Blade (COR in most Ambu months). Also has the ability to do a strong self-SC. Outside of SC I'm consistently disappointed in Chango's damage. On the other hand Fencer builds are potent but weird. I'm still fine-tuning mine but I do Mistral Axe build a fair amount just to switch it up. Savage Blade is extremely strong on WAR obviously.
As general metacommentary on the job, warrior is tremendous fun but I find myself going on dragoon or monk more often these days. WAR is the Swiss Army knife of damage dealers. There's a lot of options but outside of MS zerg I actually feel stronger overall on dragoon. Warrior is still a great all-round job with tons of options between different weapons and damage types and I want to continue to improve mine.
I'm very confused by this question and how you even came to it but no. Evasion is the most useless stat in the game.
I’m still disappointed war is not on 1hand aeonic axe, love me some mistral axe.
Shiva.Eightball said: »
I’m still disappointed war is not on 1hand aeonic axe, love me some mistral axe.
Yeah that would be awesome, kind of a missed opportunity. There's still decent combos for Mistral Axe, like Barbarity +1/Blurred Shield +1 or Barbarity +1/TP Bonus axe.
Asura.Yojimmbo said: »
Should I be augmenting WS capes with Evasion? I have -5dt on mine but wondering if it should be Evasion since evasion is similar to Accuracy?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Evasion
Would be better off putting defense then evasion, but even that won't help a ton without buffs.
Just to share a recent experience with HTH, was fighting the coarse NM in reisen so I used The HTHs with dragon kick and with less than ideal buffs and set for this ws I was doing 50kish average as war/Sam with a spike of 78k
If you are capped pdt in your ws sets somehow you should not add defense over pdt. If you are capped pdt but not DT then add DT. Unless I'm missing something I don't understand the rationale for this choice.
Better put M-EVA if you dont choose PDT or DT (better choices) for capes.
I was looking at the HTH WS list and it shows tornado kick available with mnk as sub, is that accurate? Also BG shows str dex for dragon but on the actual page for dragon it says str vit, does anyone know which it actually is? I will probably get into this to check all this out but I’m thinking raging firsts could also be some serious dmg now for war.
Shiva.Eightball said: »
I was looking at the HTH WS list and it shows tornado kick available with mnk as sub, is that accurate? Also BG shows str dex for dragon but on the actual page for dragon it says str vit, does anyone know which it actually is? I will probably get into this to check all this out but I’m thinking raging firsts could also be some serious dmg now for war.
I think you are few months late. I think Spaitin tested this and even did some 99 RF during zerg on something weka to blunt. If you go back few months (probably around the time when h2h WSs get update) you should probably find it.
I skimmed back to dec but didn’t see it, I’ll look again later.
Shiva.Eightball said: »
I skimmed back to dec but didn’t see it, I’ll look again later.
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Been using war/mnk a lot lately. It is honestly one of the better builds war has access to lol.
It does really well on anything blunt weak. at 3k TP you can 99k on stuff that isnt blunt weak.
If you have someone going /dnc you can have them haste samba and then you are good to go. If you have someone who likes /dnc then I would say it is an endgame ready DPS build.
It does really well on anything blunt weak. at 3k TP you can 99k on stuff that isnt blunt weak.
If you have someone going /dnc you can have them haste samba and then you are good to go. If you have someone who likes /dnc then I would say it is an endgame ready DPS build.
Ambu hands are awesome. Only thing holding a H2H build back is not reaching capped delay without convincing your BRD or COR to go /DNC.
Anyone ever build a counter set for war?
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