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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Two of Giulianis staffers just got popped for campaign finance violations, the irony.
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Arguments about the impeachment inquiry.
An informative read, especially #5 which has been the point I've been sharing:
An informative read, especially #5 which has been the point I've been sharing:
Quote:
Soliciting a “thing of value” from a foreign national for an American campaign or candidate in a U.S. election is against the law, and Trump’s months-long campaign to obtain an investigation into Biden in Ukraine has all the markings of that.
“There should be no real doubt that a foreign government investigation into President Trump’s 2020 political rival would be of value to him as a candidate,” Brendan Fischer, director at the nonpartisan election watchdog group Campaign Legal Center, told Yahoo News. “We may not be able to put a precise value on that investigation. It should be obvious that such an investigation would be of value to President Trump’s campaign and hurt Joe Biden’s.”
“There should be no real doubt that a foreign government investigation into President Trump’s 2020 political rival would be of value to him as a candidate,” Brendan Fischer, director at the nonpartisan election watchdog group Campaign Legal Center, told Yahoo News. “We may not be able to put a precise value on that investigation. It should be obvious that such an investigation would be of value to President Trump’s campaign and hurt Joe Biden’s.”
You’re argument therefore becomes “Trump isn’t allowed to enforce the law if it results in damage to his political opponents” which is just laughable on its face. Biden is on tape bragging about his corruption. And just yesterday we learned that the firm in question paid biden just under a million dollars to lobby.
Lol libs love fix news now, its now their bible.
Peal back the layers on that poll and you can see its garbage.
48%/12%/40% democrat/ind/rep sample is a laughable premise.
facts I don't like strikes again.
Peal back the layers on that poll and you can see its garbage.
48%/12%/40% democrat/ind/rep sample is a laughable premise.
facts I don't like strikes again.
Lefties have everything backwards about conservative media.
They think conservative media gives its viewers their opinions. The think this because thats what liberal media does for its viewers. Also how communist propagandists approach the whole concept of news as well.
The reality is that conservative media reflects the views already in existence by it’s audience.
They think conservative media gives its viewers their opinions. The think this because thats what liberal media does for its viewers. Also how communist propagandists approach the whole concept of news as well.
The reality is that conservative media reflects the views already in existence by it’s audience.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
Yes youve pointed this out before. I have pointed out that the us has a treaty with Ukraine which stipulates cooperation between the nations for law enforcement.
If that was the case, Trump wouldn't send his personal lawyer to help them.
Your argument becomes reduced to “Trump cant do anythting if he gains politically from it.”
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Arguments about the impeachment inquiry.
An informative read, especially #5 which has been the point I've been sharing:
An informative read, especially #5 which has been the point I've been sharing:
Quote:
Soliciting a “thing of value” from a foreign national for an American campaign or candidate in a U.S. election is against the law, and Trump’s months-long campaign to obtain an investigation into Biden in Ukraine has all the markings of that.
“There should be no real doubt that a foreign government investigation into President Trump’s 2020 political rival would be of value to him as a candidate,” Brendan Fischer, director at the nonpartisan election watchdog group Campaign Legal Center, told Yahoo News. “We may not be able to put a precise value on that investigation. It should be obvious that such an investigation would be of value to President Trump’s campaign and hurt Joe Biden’s.”
“There should be no real doubt that a foreign government investigation into President Trump’s 2020 political rival would be of value to him as a candidate,” Brendan Fischer, director at the nonpartisan election watchdog group Campaign Legal Center, told Yahoo News. “We may not be able to put a precise value on that investigation. It should be obvious that such an investigation would be of value to President Trump’s campaign and hurt Joe Biden’s.”
...which has zero to do with requesting a foreign national to contribute information on a political opponent. The treaty you speak of and the law against Trump's behavior have nothing to do with each other. You're grasping.
Nausi said: »
If Through enforcement of Us law trump can gain politically then he has every right to reap those benefits.
There are none so blind that will not see. Your comment makes no logical sense. Trump did the very opposite of enforcing US law, he broke it. I've posted that law 3 times now. Would you look at it if I posted it a 4th? Trump is not above the law, he can't do whatever he wants without repercussion, and he seems determined to learn this the hard way. So be it, I have popcorn. :)
Dems are so *** now. They have quintupled down on this nothing burger. If they actually pursue impeachment it will all evaporate and their base will abandon them. If they don't, their base will never forgive them.
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
If Through enforcement of Us law trump can gain politically then he has every right to reap those benefits.
There are none so blind that will not see. Your comment makes no logical sense. Trump did the very opposite of enforcing US law, he broke it. I've posted that law 3 times now. Would you look at it if I posted it a 4th? Trump is not above the law, he can't do whatever he wants without repercussion, and he seems determined to learn this the hard way. So be it, I have popcorn. :)
You keep trying to ignore Bidens crimes.
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
If Through enforcement of Us law trump can gain politically then he has every right to reap those benefits.
There are none so blind that will not see. Your comment makes no logical sense. Trump did the very opposite of enforcing US law, he broke it. I've posted that law 3 times now. Would you look at it if I posted it a 4th? Trump is not above the law, he can't do whatever he wants without repercussion, and he seems determined to learn this the hard way. So be it, I have popcorn. :)
You keep trying to ignore Bidens crimes.
Has anyone seen these links? Or is nausi just making ***up again?
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
If Through enforcement of Us law trump can gain politically then he has every right to reap those benefits.
There are none so blind that will not see. Your comment makes no logical sense. Trump did the very opposite of enforcing US law, he broke it. I've posted that law 3 times now. Would you look at it if I posted it a 4th? Trump is not above the law, he can't do whatever he wants without repercussion, and he seems determined to learn this the hard way. So be it, I have popcorn. :)
You keep trying to ignore Bidens crimes.
...because that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. You keep deflecting to this idea that Biden has crimes, but regardless of whether that is true or not it doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law. I don't care about Biden and his supposed crimes, but if you are going to quote me and respond to my posts then at least have the direction to stay on topic.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I google'd it and apparently it's Rudy (Shocking I know) who claimed Biden received 900k for lobbying.
Which again makes me ask if it's supposedly criminal investigation into Biden, why does Rudy have that information?
Which again makes me ask if it's supposedly criminal investigation into Biden, why does Rudy have that information?
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
If Through enforcement of Us law trump can gain politically then he has every right to reap those benefits.
There are none so blind that will not see. Your comment makes no logical sense. Trump did the very opposite of enforcing US law, he broke it. I've posted that law 3 times now. Would you look at it if I posted it a 4th? Trump is not above the law, he can't do whatever he wants without repercussion, and he seems determined to learn this the hard way. So be it, I have popcorn. :)
You keep trying to ignore Bidens crimes.
...because that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. You keep deflecting to this idea that Biden has crimes, but regardless of whether that is true or not it doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law. I don't care about Biden and his supposed crimes, but if you are going to quote me and respond to my posts then at least have the direction to stay on topic.
Not only can he gain politically from enforcing the law, je has an obligation to enforce the law.
Screaming you don't care about Biden’s confessed crimes doesn’t nullify them.
Besides Ukraine has also established that the reopening of the investigation occured months before the phone call. So you can’t even say that Trump gained anything from his phone call.
You’re 100% out of arguments bud. Your lefty overlords have *** you over yet again.
Do we have any evidence that the Ukraine opened the investigation my nths before, or is nausi making that up to? Regurgitating conspiracy theories doesn't make them true.
Viciouss said: »
Do we have any evidence that the Ukraine opened the investigation my nths before, or is nausi making that up to? Regurgitating conspiracy theories doesn't make them true.
No evidence, nothing. He seems determined to believe that if Biden has crimes it means the president did nothing wrong.
Posted the story the other day. Part of the Ukrainian investigation into Bidens firm that everyone insists doesn’t exist (but it does).
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Viciouss said: »
Do we have any evidence that the Ukraine opened the investigation my nths before, or is nausi making that up to? Regurgitating conspiracy theories doesn't make them true.
No evidence, nothing. He seems determined to believe that if Biden has crimes it means the president did nothing wrong.
Well it doesn't help that so far all of his "evidence" has been completely fabricated by Giulani and his cohorts, some of which just got arrested for corruption.
Now the attorneys for the “whistleblower” are admitting that the WB had actual contact with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates
Not only did they collude with Adam Schiff
They likely colluded with Biden to get their story straight before coming out.
Not only did they collude with Adam Schiff
They likely colluded with Biden to get their story straight before coming out.
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Nausi said: »
Now the attorneys for the “whistleblower” are admitting that the WB had actual contact with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates
Not only did they collude with Adam Schiff
They likely colluded with Biden to get their story straight before coming out.
Not only did they collude with Adam Schiff
They likely colluded with Biden to get their story straight before coming out.
Yea, that's exactly what happened. Good thing we have the transcript of Trump pressuring Ukraine to begin an investigation into his political opponent, and offering US resources to help.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
People can post whatever they want, but it's nonsense to quote someone specifically and go off on some wild tangent that has nothing to do with what was quoted.
Oz is new here, but has already stumbled into the classic lefty *** of ad hominem, name calling and poor arguments.
Viciouss said: »
Two of Giulianis staffers just got popped for campaign finance violations, the irony.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I google'd it and apparently it's Rudy (Shocking I know) who claimed Biden received 900k for lobbying.
Which again makes me ask if it's supposedly criminal investigation into Biden, why does Rudy have that information?
Which again makes me ask if it's supposedly criminal investigation into Biden, why does Rudy have that information?
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