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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-06 09:47:42  
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."
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By fonewear 2019-10-06 10:15:56  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Only Trump isn't enforcing the law, he is breaking it

Leftist alarm tripped.

Guys don't bother arguing with him, he's not entering into a good faith discussion.

This is just typical Saevel/nausi behavior.

It is interesting actually, to see how quickly logic and reason can cause cause people to resort to denigrating other's comments.

If you had any logic or reason you wouldn't be on FFXIAH to begin with.
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By fonewear 2019-10-06 10:16:48  
This is where ideas come to die.

Where intelligence is thrown out the window.

Where opinions are facts.

And insanity is embraced

Welcome to FFXIAH.
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By fonewear 2019-10-06 10:17:25  
Please do not use logic reason or well thought out ideas.

It scares the crazies here.

We want wild speculation heresy and conspiracy theories only.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 10:33:28  
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It is illegal to utilize the information obtained from foreign nationals, as it is not expected that they have America's best interest as their motive.

So, the government's use of the Steele Dossier to obtain multiple FISA warrants against the Trump campaign is also against the law? Well, then let's not stop with impeaching Trump. Let's impeach the entire federal government!

lol, source? Did they release the FISA report and we just missed it?

Uh, yes, they have released heavily redacted documents for the FISA requests. Steele is mentioned in all of them. But hey, you and Shi can keep living under that rock if it makes you feel better.
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By fonewear 2019-10-06 10:41:33  
Since this is such a boring topic.

What is your favorite scary / horror movie ?

I think the original Halloween holds up pretty well.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-06 10:43:42  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-06 10:51:48  
fonewear said: »
Since this is such a boring topic.

What is your favorite scary / horror movie ?

I think the original Halloween holds up pretty well.

I'm enjoying AHS 9, for that retro 80s slasher theme. I recently re-watched Mother with Jennifer Lawrence. That is an awesome film, especially the scene where the crowd partakes of the flesh and blood of Christ.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-06 11:00:15  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.

It will surprise you how often you will falsely be accused of "moving the goalposts" when the topic is Trump's misbehavior and thats all you are talking about.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 11:03:17  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Viciouss said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Only Trump isn't enforcing the law, he is breaking it

Leftist alarm tripped.

Guys don't bother arguing with him, he's not entering into a good faith discussion.

This is just typical Saevel/nausi behavior.

It is interesting actually, to see how quickly logic and reason can cause cause people to resort to denigrating other's comments.

Be careful around Vic then. He seems intent on making you his protege, but half of his posts are him talking crap about Nausi.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-06 11:09:16  
Awwww
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 11:12:29  
Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.

It will surprise you how often you will falsely be accused of "moving the goalposts" when the topic is Trump's misbehavior and thats all you are talking about.

That's because you think you get to control the topic 24/7. This is a Random Politics thread, not a "Orange Man Bad waaaaaahhhhhh don't deflect to other topics!" thread.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-06 11:18:01  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.

It will surprise you how often you will falsely be accused of "moving the goalposts" when the topic is Trump's misbehavior and thats all you are talking about.

That's because you think you get to control the topic 24/7. This is a Random Politics thread, not a "Orange Man Bad waaaaaahhhhhh don't deflect to other topics!" thread.

Yeah thats not true at all, it was amusing tho. Its also never how your "moving the goalposts" accusations occur.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 11:26:56  
Viciouss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.

It will surprise you how often you will falsely be accused of "moving the goalposts" when the topic is Trump's misbehavior and thats all you are talking about.

That's because you think you get to control the topic 24/7. This is a Random Politics thread, not a "Orange Man Bad waaaaaahhhhhh don't deflect to other topics!" thread.

Yeah thats not true at all, it was amusing tho. Its also never how your "moving the goalposts" accusations occur.
Uh, that's not a term that is used in here very often. Pleebs used to say it a lot, though. You cry "deflection" an awful lot whenever anyone points out your hypocrisy, though.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 11:48:31  
Nauseous? After you were just complaining about ad hominems? Crap, you really are Vic's protege.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-06 11:50:51  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
ad hominem

Oh...sorry about that, I'll go fix it. I was typing too fast.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-06 11:51:59  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

Thank you for the explanation! So basically their deflection from the subject.

It will surprise you how often you will falsely be accused of "moving the goalposts" when the topic is Trump's misbehavior and thats all you are talking about.

That's because you think you get to control the topic 24/7. This is a Random Politics thread, not a "Orange Man Bad waaaaaahhhhhh don't deflect to other topics!" thread.

Yeah thats not true at all, it was amusing tho. Its also never how your "moving the goalposts" accusations occur.
Uh, that's not a term that is used in here very often. Pleebs used to say it a lot, though. You cry "deflection" an awful lot whenever anyone points out your hypocrisy, though.

I believe it was nausi that used it most recently, and I kinda like it. I think it is time to bring that phrase back into circulation. If we could create signatures, that would definitely make it into mine. "We await your next goal post movement..."
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By Viciouss 2019-10-06 11:57:10  
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Nauseous? After you were just complaining about ad hominems? Crap, you really are Vic's protege.

lol, it's just autocorrect. Bit jumpy eh?
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-06 12:03:43  
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Nauseous? After you were just complaining about ad hominems? Crap, you really are Vic's protege.

lol, it's just autocorrect. Bit jumpy eh?

Yeah, not intentional.

Signed, your protege.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-06 12:06:27  
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Nauseous? After you were just complaining about ad hominems? Crap, you really are Vic's protege.

lol, it's just autocorrect. Bit jumpy eh?

He's liking your posts. I wouldn't put it past him.
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By Nausi 2019-10-06 21:59:15  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Viciouss said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Only Trump isn't enforcing the law, he is breaking it

Leftist alarm tripped.

Guys don't bother arguing with him, he's not entering into a good faith discussion.

This is just typical Saevel/nausi behavior.

It is interesting actually, to see how quickly logic and reason can cause cause people to resort to denigrating other's comments.
You aren't offering logic, you're offering sophistry.

You are welcome to insult my posts all you want, but it does not strengthen your opinion on the subject, rather it weakens it. Curious...what is "goal post movement"? I've not heard this term before.
you've never heard the term "moving the goalposts"?
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By Nausi 2019-10-06 22:05:39  
We have already explained how Trump is enforcing the law, by requesting Ukraine's help in an ongoing investigation by the AG and justice department.
You have neglected to respond to that point and have insisted that because it doesn't reinforce your point, but instead refutes it, it must be "deflection".

That is sophistry.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-06 23:04:29  
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We have already explained how Trump is enforcing the law, by requesting Ukraine's help in an ongoing investigation by the AG and justice department.
You have neglected to respond to that point and have insisted that because it doesn't reinforce your point, but instead refutes it, it must be "deflection".

That is sophistry.

lol, there is no "ongoing investigation" by the AG nor the DOJ. You haven't explained anything. No one is investigating the Bidens for anything.
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By fonewear 2019-10-07 09:55:20  
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We have already explained how Trump is enforcing the law, by requesting Ukraine's help in an ongoing investigation by the AG and justice department.
You have neglected to respond to that point and have insisted that because it doesn't reinforce your point, but instead refutes it, it must be "deflection".

That is sophistry.

lol, there is no "ongoing investigation" by the AG nor the DOJ. You haven't explained anything. No one is investigating the Bidens for anything.

Again with the "lol"

If you ever post something funny Vic. I'll be the first to let you know.
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By fonewear 2019-10-07 09:56:02  
Laughing at your own posts. Is sorta like laughing at your own jokes.

It's not funny it's kinda sad.
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By fonewear 2019-10-07 09:58:54  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Goal post movement...

A says "you must prove / do this"

B proves or does it.

A says "but you didn't prove / do that."

C I don't have to prove anything to you internet strangers !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-07 10:23:54  
Tired of all the winning yet department:

Judge Rejects Trump Challenge To New York Tax Return Turnover
The judge said he cannot endorse such a “categorical and limitless assertion of presidential immunity from judicial process.”


Republicans, Foreign Policy Experts Condemn Trump’s Decision To Abandon Kurds
Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina called it “a stain on America’s honor.”

Doth HuffPo just to trigger the conservative snowflakes. Also because its too early for the Wonkette gloating to have hit the press.

As a side note:

NBA In Crisis After Bashing GM To Appease China
Daryl Morey quickly deleted a tweet which included an image captioned: “Fight For Freedom. Stand With Hong Kong.”

HuffPo just because I happen to be on it.

The NBA has a foriegn policy! Whodathunkit.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-07 10:34:37  
Full retreat from Syria, wow. What lies will his supporters come up with to justify this I wonder. He didn't even tell the Pentagon or Congress ahead of time.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-07 10:35:27  
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Laughing at your own posts. Is sorta like laughing at your own jokes.

It's not funny it's kinda sad.

Its actually been really funny watching nausi try to fabricate a nonexistent investigation into the Bidens.
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