Valefor.Endoq said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
He won’t get impeached lol.
Enjoy the next 4 years of Trump, his successor will be even worse.
Enjoy the next 4 years of Trump, his successor will be even worse.
Almost guaranteed he'll be "impeached", that only requires a slight majority of the House which the Democrats already have. It's the Senate that decides on removal or not, and that's a much higher bar.
Your confusing "impeached" with "removed from office", very very different things. Bill Clinton was impeached, he wasn't' removed from office and the Republicans had a far stronger case involving perjury then the Democrats do now.
The best way to think of it is that "impeached" is like a grand jury incitement, very low bar.
Means absolutely jack ***, that's what.
This is probably the single biggest difference between the US system of government and the European Parliamentary system of government. The founders deliberately separated the powers of government into three distinct branches each with the ability to influence but not control the other. The majority of power was vested into Congress, which was then split into two sections to ensure it was never abused (Senate and House). The States, not Congress, elects the President of the USA, and to provide a method to remove an unfaithful President while also preventing that same President from being a puppet to Congress the impeachment process was created.
It goes like this,
The House of Representatives conducts an investigation, collects testimonies and evidence of "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors", that's the Constitutionally defined bar that must be met. In this case you can think of the House as both Prosecution and Grand Jury, they are the ones that decide to start the whole process. A simple majority vote is all that is needed for a President to be impeached, which is the political form of an indictment saying "we think you did these bad things". The part of the house doing the impeachment draws up Articles of Impeachment, which is then voted on (requires a simple majority) and this is what goes forth to the Senate for trial.
Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5.
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The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Article 1, Section 3, Clause 6 and 7.
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The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
That's right, if the House is the Prosecution, the Senate is the jury and can convict with a two thirds majority (67 votes). They also are "judge" in that they select the punishment, which can range anywhere from a bad letter to removal of office, but can not extend further then that. This is where the "A sitting President can't be charged with a crime" comes from, the Senate must first remove them from office thus removing Executive privilege and opening the possibility for a criminal trial.
Now presiding above all this, just to make sure things are Constitutional, is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Their job is to make sure Congress isn't trying to oust a President they don't like for arbitrary reasons.
So there's a quick lesson in how impeachment works, not nearly as easy as the DNC talking heads at CNN make it sound. So given that the Democrats vote to impeach President Trump for ... having Orange hair and being mean to them. The Squad and Nadler would then have to convince 67 senators, majority of which are those Deplorable Republicans, that President Trump is guilty of being mean to them.
Yeah absolutely zero probability of President Trump being removed from office. This is all political theater in preparation for the 2020 election which has already started. The Democrat <Insert faceless person here> will be battling the evil despised Trump and thus the games have begun.