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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 19:05:50
Oh we are doing fine over here, the talking point has failed. "No quid pro" is not exoneration. Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden. Thats wrong. Even if he never asked for anything in return, Trump is still in the wrong. But I get it, anything to avoid the story of the day.
Yeah, the story of the day is all it is. How many "bombshell" reports on Trump have had any lasting effect whatsoever? Tell us, Vic, what do you actually think will come of this?
It depends on whether or not that aid money was involved. Trump released his version of the story today and it proves him guilty. Really, that was the best thing Trump could come up with, and it still implicates him. We will see what the whistleblower report says.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-25 19:13:33
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-09-25 19:54:21
"Proves him guilty"
Hey kids, Vic thinks he's a lawyer! What law school did you go to, champ?
By Nausi 2019-09-25 19:59:50
Oh we are doing fine over here, the talking point has failed. "No quid pro" is not exoneration. Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden. Thats wrong. Even if he never asked for anything in return, Trump is still in the wrong. But I get it, anything to avoid the story of the day.
Yeah, the story of the day is all it is. How many "bombshell" reports on Trump have had any lasting effect whatsoever? Tell us, Vic, what do you actually think will come of this? Just another facts I don't like circle jerk titled “impeach Trump for Biden’s crimes”
Bring it on.
By Nausi 2019-09-25 20:00:48
"Story of the day" back when it actually meant something
All these "bombshell" stories whether true or not and mostly untrue is just the way the media has been playing this pre- and post-election. Say it enough and it becomes true. Or in this case, people simply believe it. It reinforces their opinion, so therefore its true The social construct.
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By Nausi 2019-09-25 20:02:06
Whoa another fake scandal.
Im sure the next one will be real tho.
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By Viciouss 2019-09-25 20:04:10
"Proves him guilty"
Hey kids, Vic thinks he's a lawyer! What law school did you go to, champ?
Uh, yeah. When he releases a thrown together transcript that explicitly states him asking Ukraine to investigate a political opponent, that pretty much hands his opponents a free win. There is a reason GOP senators are so quiet, wondering why Trump released that transcript. Worst case scenario for the Dems is they get to use this all the way until the election. It was that stupid for Trump. Its not "facts I don't like" lol. Its not "backfiring" on Pelosi. She got exactly what she wanted.
By Nausi 2019-09-25 20:04:24
Oh we are doing fine over here, the talking point has failed. "No quid pro" is not exoneration. Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden. Thats wrong. Even if he never asked for anything in return, Trump is still in the wrong. But I get it, anything to avoid the story of the day.
Yeah, the story of the day is all it is. How many "bombshell" reports on Trump have had any lasting effect whatsoever? Tell us, Vic, what do you actually think will come of this? Democrats in congress threatened ukraine earlier in the year and pressured them to investigate Trump.
Again we have dems caught doing the very thing they wish they caught Trump doing.
Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 20:04:45
Its fun to watch nausi run that debunked talking point into the ground though.
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 20:05:15
Oh we are doing fine over here, the talking point has failed. "No quid pro" is not exoneration. Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden. Thats wrong. Even if he never asked for anything in return, Trump is still in the wrong. But I get it, anything to avoid the story of the day.
Yeah, the story of the day is all it is. How many "bombshell" reports on Trump have had any lasting effect whatsoever? Tell us, Vic, what do you actually think will come of this? Democrats in congress threatened ukraine earlier in the year and pressured them to investigate Trump.
Again we have dems caught doing the very thing they wish they caught Trump doing.
Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
Yeah, this did not happen.
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 20:09:23
Now the whistleblower has agreed to testify, this really is the fastest scandal ever. The smear campaign against this person has been amusing. Oh, their lawyer donated to this person, represented these people. Means nothing.
By Nausi 2019-09-25 20:16:20
Does everyone here know that he whistleblower never saw the transcript, and that these transcripts are written down by numerous people inside the White house. These people then collectively agree on what was said.
If the transcript has been falsified then many people would know it.
Does everyone here also realize that by claiming trump is lying they are also claiming Ukraine is lying.
Stop bargaining.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-25 20:17:09
Whoa another fake scandal.
Im sure the next one will be real tho. /popcorn
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 20:39:18
Does everyone here know that he whistleblower never saw the transcript, and that these transcripts are written down by numerous people inside the White house. These people then collectively agree on what was said.
If the transcript has been falsified then many people would know it.
Does everyone here also realize that by claiming trump is lying they are also claiming Ukraine is lying.
Stop bargaining.
No one has claimed Trump is lying about the transcript. Again, easy.
By Nausi 2019-09-25 21:26:01
How can you guys still fall for the “anonymous sources” bait?
Dont you feel stupid, the media is making you look like fools.
By fonewear 2019-09-25 21:28:57
"Proves him guilty"
Hey kids, Vic thinks he's a lawyer! What law school did you go to, champ?
Got his law degree in a Cracker Jack box !
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By fonewear 2019-09-25 21:35:27
What I really don't get is if Trump was thrown out of office.
You guys would just *** about Mike Pence so what's the point ?
By Viciouss 2019-09-25 21:42:17
How can you guys still fall for the “anonymous sources” bait?
Dont you feel stupid, the media is making you look like fools.
Says the guy that cites Twitter constantly and is constantly wrong. Oh btw, not too many anonymous sources on this scandal. Everything reported about the Trump call turned out to be accurate as well.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2019-09-25 22:43:47
Sadly, we're gonna be reading more of Vic in the next coming weeks, his beloved Cubs failed at making the playoffs; wahhh wahhhhh
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By Viciouss 2019-09-25 22:56:26
Sadly, we're gonna be reading more of Vic in the next coming weeks, his beloved Cubs failed at making the playoffs; wahhh wahhhhh
Uh, that has nothing to do with my posting here. Cute tho.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2019-09-26 03:27:53
I’m starting to feel bad for Vic over here, always getting picked on :(
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 05:43:40
Is Mike Pence better than Donald Trump? I was american I would be absolutely scared of Pence and whatever 18th century policy he might want to bring.
Anyway, I've been following this thing very carefully the past couple of days since literally nothing is happening in my country lol...the call transcript was kinda the wrong focus but media are easily distracted as you know, the whistleblower complaint was always the main thing and now even some republicans that have seen it have come out calling it very "troubling". If that doesn't sound serious to you, Idk. Either way it is probably going public tomorrow.
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By Nausi 2019-09-26 07:44:47
What I really don't get is if Trump was thrown out of office.
You guys would just *** about Mike Pence so what's the point ? The have been brainwashed to believe trump is hitler.
Thats how I explain it.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 07:47:52
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 07:49:06
Secondly the favor Trump asked them to help investigate was in regards to 2016 election interference. Check the transcript.
I thought libs wanted that investigated.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-09-26 07:49:20
"Story of the day" back when it actually meant something
All these "bombshell" stories whether true or not and mostly untrue is just the way the media has been playing this pre- and post-election. Say it enough and it becomes true. Or in this case, people simply believe it. It reinforces their opinion, so therefore its true
It's weaponized TDS.
The fact that the democrat paid to "leak" the story was neither present on the call nor had actually read the transcripts of the call. Basically they "heard" that something was said and decided to help the Democrats defeat President Trump in 2020.
This is what is meant by "deep state". It's not some conspiracy lizard men type stuff but the fact that the Democrats control most of the federal positions in the DC area. Not being a Democrat makes it very hard to get employed by the US Government anywhere near DC due to the how corrupt the bureaucracy is here.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-09-26 07:50:13
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Duh simple answer
Democrat Good
Republican BAD!
Orange man VERY VERY BAD!!!!
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By Viciouss 2019-09-26 07:52:09
All the facts about Biden and that prosecutor are out, most of them provided by the Ukranians themselves. There is nothing to investigate.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 08:05:11
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Duh simple answer
Democrat Good
Republican BAD!
Orange man VERY VERY BAD!!!! 
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