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the A.M.A.N. Trove BC
Asura.Cladbolg said: » Got lucky with this today. No loud thuds. Previously had 3 loud thuds on 3 diff orbs with junk drops so i guess this makes up for it. I didn't know you can get OMEN body without loud thud. It's just a chance, but it can happen. To all the people out there watch out for scammers. Lot of people saying they are selling want you to pop orb before getting paid. Be aware.
Always pay first then pop! Theres more than enough reputable buyers, and all of us will pay you before popping for sure.
If they refused, dont feel bad going back to town to shout for a new buyer. You will find one.
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got a loud thud after 10 orbs yesterday and it was a *** yggdreant root
hah.......
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Got a Nisroch Jerkin today off of a loud thud.
Guess I need to upgrade my annihilator or gear up Cor? What's it even good for? Odin.Botosi said: » Got a Nisroch Jerkin today off of a loud thud. Guess I need to upgrade my annihilator or gear up Cor? What's it even good for? Lockstyle!
volkom said: » Lockstyle! One of my favorite lockstyles forever. Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » eliroo said: » 12/100 is pretty damn good consider how often you can do it. You'd need a community experiment to do like 1000 and not many people are willing to risk their orbs. I'm not saying it isn't a good chunk for how often you can do it, but when you're trying to calculate results you can't base an adequate sample size on how difficult data collection is. 12/100 isn't enough to say it's 12%, it's not even enough to say it's between 9 and 15%. 7/7 or whatever isn't enough to say it's 100% either, and 'a few' means you probably didn't log any of it. 0.7% chance of going 7/7 at 50%. Almost 50% chance(47.8%) at going 7/7 at 90%. It likely is 100%(less likely on the 12%), but when you claim conclusions without adequate data you weaken your argument. Would it make Venus the better choice? I guess we lack data to be able to reach any conclusion but could we simulate it? I guess the answer isn't as simple as cost of orb difference and nothing else. I'm not doing Trove for money personally, I'm only doing it for bodies (any) or rare stuff in general (so anything beyond Escha Ru'Aun) and I've had terrible luck following the any thud > exit. So if we are able to come up with a better plan in that regard, I'm all for it. I'm about to gold chest only starting this month if there is nothing better. Last month I did 3 Venus gold chest only and came away with crafting mats and a Nibiru staff.
Could have been bad RNG but Venus does not guarantee a gear drop. Taint said: » Venus does not guarantee a gear drop. Taint said: » Last month I did 3 Venus gold chest only and came away with crafting mats and a Nibiru staff. Could have been bad RNG but Venus does not guarantee a gear drop. So there really is no point to Venus in the end, I find this weird. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Taint said: » Last month I did 3 Venus gold chest only and came away with crafting mats and a Nibiru staff. Could have been bad RNG but Venus does not guarantee a gear drop. So there really is no point to Venus in the end, I find this weird. Odin.Drakenv said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Taint said: » Last month I did 3 Venus gold chest only and came away with crafting mats and a Nibiru staff. Could have been bad RNG but Venus does not guarantee a gear drop. So there really is no point to Venus in the end, I find this weird. I wanted to wait until I had 100 Venus to compare with my 100 Mars test but since it’s a trending relevant topic I’ll post my current results when I get to my computer with the data. Venus also have higher loud thuds chance.
geigei said: » Venus also have higher loud thuds chance. I’ve gotten A Tartarus Mail and Udug both off of Mars Orbs as well. The last time I got a loud thud on a Venus it ended up being a Colada
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Venus orb Gold Chest Only tests are taking a bit longer due to the fact that I received about 50 Mars from Bonanza. This months campaign should give me an additional 30-40 Venus orbs depending on if I get my new batch of mules to 99.
Round One (100 Mars Orb Test): Code MARS: 1/99 Nisroch Jerkin 11 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF, Non-augment Reisenmjima) 1 Annealed Lance (this didn’t matter at the time but is notable now) ~1% chance of Omen Body ~12% chance of equipment VENUS: 0/4 4 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF) ~100% chance of equipment Round Two (100 Venus Orb Test): Code MARS: 0/22 3 General Equipment (Zitah, HTBF) ~13% chance of equipment VENUS: 0/34 29 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF, Vagary, Non-augment Reiseinjima) 5 Other (Macuil Plating, Defiant Scarf, Defiant sweat, Macuil horn, Macuil Horn) ~85% chance of equipment ~14% chance of other Not sure what all “other” can include yet from the Gold chest with Venus orbs but so far I’ve only received Vagary crafting materials. I've done all the roes every month since the beginning on 2 characters, including the campaigns (someone make the math on how many orbs it's been, I have no idea) Mars Orb only.
I've overall gotten only 5 Loud Thuds, and I only go for loud thuds, never open the chest unless I get down to 3 chests remaining, which has happened aprox 4 times. The only notable item I have received is Regal Gloves (and aern body). On the non thud opens after 6+ chests I have received the 5M gil twice. Totally eyeballing data /nod. tyalangan said: » Venus orb Gold Chest Only tests are taking a bit longer due to the fact that I received about 50 Mars from Bonanza. This months campaign should give me an additional 30-40 Venus orbs depending on if I get my new batch of mules to 99. Round One (100 Mars Orb Test): Code MARS: 1/99 Nisroch Jerkin 11 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF, Non-augment Reisenmjima) 1 Annealed Lance (this didn’t matter at the time but is notable now) ~1% chance of Omen Body ~12% chance of equipment VENUS: 0/4 4 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF) ~100% chance of equipment Round Two (100 Venus Orb Test): Code MARS: 0/22 3 General Equipment (Zitah, HTBF) ~13% chance of equipment VENUS: 0/34 29 General Equipment (Zitah, RuAun, HTBF, Vagary, Non-augment Reiseinjima) 5 Other (Macuil Plating, Defiant Scarf, Defiant sweat, Macuil horn, Macuil Horn) ~85% chance of equipment ~14% chance of other Not sure what all “other” can include yet from the Gold chest with Venus orbs but so far I’ve only received Vagary crafting materials. Could you please post your actual distribution of each type of gear, specifically you can just fill out the following categories below: 'Thud's are: * HTB gear * Zitah Gear * Vagary Gear 'Loud Thuds' are: * Bewitched / Vexed Items * Pulse Weapons * Omen Gear * Reisenjima Gear (Including HELM drops) I'm theorizing the distribution to be identical to as if it chooses between a Noise/Thud/Loud Thud for Mars orb, and it only picks between Thud/Loud Thud on venus. Knowing the distribution of Venus Orbs 'Loud Thud' drop chance would heavily modify the optimal selection process for Venus Orb runs. Eyeballing it, I'd estimate you almost want to open the gold chest substantially earlier on Venus Orb runs, depending on how much more frequent Loud Thuds are on Venus orbs too... Wasn't expecting this on regular thuds.
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Quetzalcoatl.Orestes said: » Wasn't expecting this on regular thuds. I got x1 Shamash on mars thud and the pet body on other thud mars. The gold chest can be a loud thud even though it doesn’t have a corresponding message.
Quote: Could you please post your actual distribution of each type of gear, specifically you can just fill out the following categories below: 'Thud's are: * HTB gear * Zitah Gear * Vagary Gear 'Loud Thuds' are: * Bewitched / Vexed Items * Pulse Weapons * Omen Gear * Reisenjima Gear (Including HELM drops) I'm theorizing the distribution to be identical to as if it chooses between a Noise/Thud/Loud Thud for Mars orb, and it only picks between Thud/Loud Thud on venus. Knowing the distribution of Venus Orbs 'Loud Thud' drop chance would heavily modify the optimal selection process for Venus Orb runs. Eyeballing it, I'd estimate you almost want to open the gold chest substantially earlier on Venus Orb runs, depending on how much more frequent Loud Thuds are on Venus orbs too... I haven’t been keeping track of which items I get. I haven’t cared. The test has been for Omen bodies only and now more recently Pulse weapons. I can start keeping track now if you’d like but it will be slow since I’m 30+ items in the hole. How much does it cost for an Omen body from Trove in general, on Asura?
Depending on price it may be a good idea to camp the yells. 150M is the lowest serious yell I've seen. Tends to go up the further into the update cycle you go.
Whew, definitely not gonna camp haha. I was expecting something more along the line of 80-100. 120 for Ashera, maybe.
few people shouting daily for 350mil for any omen body on asura. im assuming theyre server hoppers
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