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 Zerowone
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By Zerowone 2018-07-31 00:46:27
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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"So what if we actively worked with a hostile foreign nation to attack the very foundation of the democracy millions of Americans fought and died to defend?! We won. *** your feelings."

Coming from someone who supported a candidate who actively worked with party leadership to rig their own primary? Tell me more about this democracy you're so proud of.

Are you saying you don’t like your illusion of political choice to be made in America? You prefer the off market Russian brand?

If you ask me, the masters in America are far more benevolent than their Russian counterparts.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 07:37:31
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You're basing your argument off the assumption that collusion actually happened, which you can't prove. We know that the Dem primary was rigged.
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By fonewear 2018-07-31 07:49:47
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Having it both ways is declaring collusion isn't a crime in defense of the very collusion he maintains didn't happen.


That’s like the frequently used contradiction used by Trumpito himself:

“Why didn’t Obama try to do anything about Russia meddling in the 2016 campaign?”

“Why was Obama investigating the people running my campaign?”

But of course it doesn’t matter because:

"So what if we actively worked with a hostile foreign nation to attack the very foundation of the democracy millions of Americans fought and died to defend?! We won. *** your feelings."

Pretty much this yes. Any other questions ?
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By fonewear 2018-07-31 07:56:45
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I hope we unite with Russia to smite our enemies and send Jake Tapper to Mars.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-07-31 13:07:20
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Rigging a primary isn't a crime. Also, it didn't happen.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 13:17:05
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Rigging a primary isn't a crime. Also, it didn't happen.

Both of those statements have to be based on reality for that to work. Good try, though.
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By Nausi 2018-07-31 14:43:44
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Rigging a primary isn't a crime. Also, it didn't happen.
It sure did bub.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-31 15:00:56
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Nausi said: »
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Rigging a primary isn't a crime. Also, it didn't happen.
It sure did bub.
Stacking the deck against a candidate is not rigging a primary. I would remind you that although Bernie ran for president as a Democrat, it was the first time in a long political career that he identified as such.

Besides, Clinton had such a lock on the super delegates that little in the primaries would matter at the convention.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-07-31 15:31:15
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Being heavily favored by the party isn't rigging. Nice distraction though.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 16:27:27
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
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Rigging a primary isn't a crime. Also, it didn't happen.
It sure did bub.
Stacking the deck against a candidate is not rigging a primary. I would remind you that although Bernie ran for president as a Democrat, it was the first time in a long political career that he identified as such.

Besides, Clinton had such a lock on the super delegates that little in the primaries would matter at the convention.

Oh, okay. It's totally okay that she rigged "stacked the deck" of a primary if she was going to win anyway. While we're at it, Watergate wasn't even that big of a deal either, right?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 16:30:39
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Being heavily favored by the party isn't rigging. Nice distraction though.

1. Accuse someone else of distracting.
2. Completely oversimplify a topic to the point where you can feel good about it.
3. ???
4. Pleebo.
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By fonewear 2018-07-31 16:31:19
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Hillary would have won if it wasn't for my-soggy-knee sexism Russia trolls white males red necks Coors Light Alex Jones Fox News Republicans and finally Trump.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-31 16:43:18
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
You're basing your argument off the assumption that collusion actually happened, which you can't prove. We know that the Dem primary was rigged.


Didn't you get the memo.
Republicans Bad, Democrats Good, nuff said.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-07-31 16:44:11
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I reread that multiple times and that doesn't make sense as anything other than you just wanted to type something that sounded clever. Plus steps 1 and 2 are backwards.

Why are we talking about Hillary when the topic was the kettle logic that's now been officially adopted by Trump himself? For all the talk of needing to "get over" losing the election, the only people who seem to want to bring up Hillary are conservatives.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 16:52:05
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I reread that multiple times and that doesn't make sense as anything other than you just wanted to type something that sounded clever.

That's not something that you should brag about.
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By Viciouss 2018-07-31 17:07:55
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Why are we talking about Hillary when the topic was the kettle logic that's now been officially adopted by Trump himself? For all the talk of needing to "get over" losing the election, the only people who seem to want to bring up Hillary are conservatives.

Its just the standard deflection/desperation to not talk about trumps idiocy of the day.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 17:16:48
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Pleebo isn't even using the term correctly. It's not kettle logic if both arguments are true.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-07-31 17:55:47
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Validity has nothing to do with it. It's the conflicting lines of reasoning that deflate each statement.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-31 18:06:07
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Why are we talking about Hillary when the topic was the kettle logic that's now been officially adopted by Trump himself? For all the talk of needing to "get over" losing the election, the only people who seem to want to bring up Hillary are conservatives.
Running against Hillary was so much fun they want to do it again.

"BUTTERY MALES!!!" forever!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 18:23:13
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Validity has nothing to do with it. It's the conflicting lines of reasoning that deflate each statement.

This is kettle logic:
1. I did not collude.
2. I colluded, but collusion is not a crime.

This is not kettle logic:
1. I did not collude.
2. Collusion is not a crime.

Freud specifically called out contradictory statements as being a key part of kettle logic. The arguments below are not mutually exclusive.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-31 18:24:03
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Running against Hillary was so much fun they want to do it again.

Can we? I mean, it's not like you have anyone better to offer yet.
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By Zerowone 2018-07-31 18:39:52
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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180723/23541840296/wikileaks-refused-to-publish-manafort-family-texts-so-someone-else-did.shtml


Prepare yourselves. ***is RAUNCH!

Chanti you’ll love the deprivation.

Link to texts is in the article.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-07-31 18:40:32
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Freud didn't invent the concept.
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This is not kettle logic:
1. I did not collude.
2. Collusion is not a crime.
Taken together they make no sense. It's not like this is a new strategy for Trump. He constantly undercuts prior statements with different positions. No need to run interference on it.
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By fonewear 2018-07-31 18:41:18
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The newest episode of Who is America wasn't as good as the first two. I can imagine those 3 guys being foneware, Nikolce and Raevel IRL though.

You can't even spell my name right you bloody wanker !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-31 20:01:16
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Thanks Kellyanne

you're welcome!


completely unrelated hypothetical question....can you start a gofundme page for facial reconstruction for someone else? and if you met the goal they would be forced to go through with it?
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By Zerowone 2018-07-31 20:49:16
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Thanks Kellyanne

you're welcome!


completely unrelated hypothetical question....can you start a gofundme page for facial reconstruction for someone else? and if you met the goal they would be forced to go through with it?

Tell me Kellyannikolce do you want to look more or less like the crypt keeper?
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By fonewear 2018-07-31 20:56:39
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Thanks Kellyanne

you're welcome!


completely unrelated hypothetical question....can you start a gofundme page for facial reconstruction for someone else? and if you met the goal they would be forced to go through with it?

Can you send it to her:

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-08-01 00:42:43
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fonewear said: »
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The newest episode of Who is America wasn't as good as the first two. I can imagine those 3 guys being foneware, Nikolce and Raevel IRL though.

You can't even spell my name right you bloody wanker !

Apparently Nikolce has two friends with names similar to ours. That's pretty weird.
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