Random Politics & Religion #34
Random Politics & Religion #34
If he was told 2 weeks before his inauguration, then why didnt Obama who was actually president at the time do anything about it then?
Viciouss said: »
Looks like its going to be another fun filled day as Trump continues to throw temper tantrums and swing wildly (and inaccurately, of course) at people not responsible for his failed European trip.
The rest of your life must be really boring if this is your entertainment every day.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Looks like its going to be another fun filled day as Trump continues to throw temper tantrums and swing wildly (and inaccurately, of course) at people not responsible for his failed European trip.
The rest of your life must be really boring if this is your entertainment every day.
Listen. I just had to go 3 days without Cubs baseball, its hard times.
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Call me crazy, but it seems like there are much bigger and more important issues than spending every day freaking out about something that nobody can prove changed a single vote.
I would also like to point out that if the whole point of the Russian meddling was to sow chaos and discord and weaken our government, our reaction alone has accomplished that 10000x over what was actually done by the Russian hackers/botters/whatevers.
It's kinda like trying to catch a convenience store thief who stole a pack of gum by completely leveling the city block with bombs days later while the thief is miles away, chewing gum and smiling while watching it all happen on TV.
I would also like to point out that if the whole point of the Russian meddling was to sow chaos and discord and weaken our government, our reaction alone has accomplished that 10000x over what was actually done by the Russian hackers/botters/whatevers.
It's kinda like trying to catch a convenience store thief who stole a pack of gum by completely leveling the city block with bombs days later while the thief is miles away, chewing gum and smiling while watching it all happen on TV.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
it seems like there are much bigger and more important issues than spending every day freaking out
well with george soros footing the bill they were able to keep it going for the entire eight years of GDubs...
obama-greatest-disappointment
seems he is having some second thoughts....
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Is the thief also stealing cable to watch on TV? Did he steal the TV? Or does he actually have money but stole the gum for the thrill of it?
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
it seems like there are much bigger and more important issues than spending every day freaking out
well with george soros footing the bill they were able to keep it going for the entire eight years of GDubs...
obama-greatest-disappointment
seems he is having some second thoughts....
Soros also claims to be opposed to the far left while simultaneously funding it, so I wouldn't say it's necessarily wise to take anything he says at face value.
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Candlejack said: »
Three things
except
1.) obama knew about it two years before trump threw his hat in the ring.
2.) if obama is weak minded enough to be talked out of his conviction, who is the idiot?
3.) anyone with $40 can join the NRA... it's not a secret society.
gun rights advocates typically support pro gun candidates...
not sure why you seemed to be confused and bewildered by this.
4.) Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
You're right. He's probably saying as much to throw us off the trail of his latest machinations.
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
You're right. He's probably saying as much to throw us off the trail of his latest machinations.
Heh. But seriously, he's straight up admitting that he's upset that he wasn't able to operate as the proxy plutocrat for the highest office in the land. It pretty much calls into question his motives for everything he does.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
If he was told 2 weeks before his inauguration, then why didnt Obama who was actually president at the time do anything about it then?
Well let's clarify, it's not "If he was told", he was told.
Next, Obama did do something about it.
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On October 7, 2016, the ODNI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) jointly stated that the U.S. Intelligence Community was confident that the Russian Government directed recent hacking of emails with the intention of interfering with the U.S. election process.
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On October 31, 2016, President Barack Obama warned Putin via the "red phone" to stop interfering or face consequences.[14]
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In December 2016, Obama ordered a report on hacking efforts aimed at U.S. elections since 2008,[15] while U.S. Senators called for a bipartisan investigation.[16][17]
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On December 29, 2016, the Obama Administration expelled 35 Russian diplomats, denied access to two Russia-owned compounds, and broadened existing sanctions on Russian entities and individuals.
“Anonymous source” close to Putin.
And this is the same report that the facts I don't like media paraded as “17 intel agencies” agree, which has already been debunked.
Clapper and brennen are recycling the same bologna. In an attempt to further promote this ridiculous narrative that Trump colluded with Russia, or he’s a Russian plant, or a 20 year sleeper cell, or whatever.
The sad reality here is that sole purpose of any Russian electoral meddling is to disenfranchise the losers (YOU) to lose faith in the system. You stupid shits have eagerly bought right into it. You've taken the bait, *** at his point you’re ADDICTED to the bait, and you’re refusing to put it down because you’re full of poisonous spite and terrified of the cortisol levels you’ll suffer if you walk away.
lol, you have never "debunked" anything nausi.
I think you mean dopamine. It is nice that you've joined the rest of us in acknowledging the meddling exists though.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I think you mean dopamine. It is nice that you've joined the rest of us in acknowledging the meddling exists though.
It isn’t news that they do. They, and everyone else who can, China, the norks, meddle in our elections. It doesnt amount to any systemic effect. It doesn’t change the vote, the vote count.
Its only news now because it provides a ready made excuse for liberal losers that cannot deal with the fact they lost. So instead they make up a boogeyman to prevent the acceptance of reality (Trump is a duly elected president) for your fantasy (Trump is illegitimate, we weren't wrong).
You guys are the kids who flipped the monopoly game over when you lost, except you’re doing it with a country.
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Looks like before the Senate could vote on a resolution rejecting Russia's idea to interview US citizens, Trump has flip flopped and is no longer supportive of the idea. How nice.
Secondly, its unbelievably dangerous to play this game. You aren’t winning anyone over with such obvious ***. You’re pissing people off, and you’re recklessly going to get people hurt by pretending the president is guilty of treason.
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Nausi said: »
Secondly, its unbelievably dangerous to play this game. You aren’t winning anyone over with such obvious ***. You’re pissing people off, and you’re recklessly going to get people hurt by pretending the president is guilty of treason.
Oh, fearmongering now. Also nice.
Viciouss said: »
Who are the "norks" again? They sound like a Dr. Seuss villain.
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Nausi said: »
No one says they dont meddle.
It isn’t news that they do. They, and everyone else who can, China, the norks, meddle in our elections. It doesnt amount to any systemic effect. It doesn’t change the vote, the vote count.
Its only news now because it provides a ready made excuse for liberal losers that cannot deal with the fact they lost. So instead they make up a boogeyman to prevent the acceptance of reality (Trump is a duly elected president) for your fantasy (Trump is illegitimate, we weren't wrong).
You guys are the kids who flipped the monopoly game over when you lost, except you’re doing it with a country.
It isn’t news that they do. They, and everyone else who can, China, the norks, meddle in our elections. It doesnt amount to any systemic effect. It doesn’t change the vote, the vote count.
Its only news now because it provides a ready made excuse for liberal losers that cannot deal with the fact they lost. So instead they make up a boogeyman to prevent the acceptance of reality (Trump is a duly elected president) for your fantasy (Trump is illegitimate, we weren't wrong).
You guys are the kids who flipped the monopoly game over when you lost, except you’re doing it with a country.
I would call getting access to voter rolls in certain states as a systemic problem. As would massive state-run propaganda campaigns that large companies like Facebook have been connected to.
Get over your usual political dichotomy and see the controversy as an attack on the electoral process as a whole because it's a strategy that could just as easily be used against you as it was for you.
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