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 Odin.Drakenv
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 14:23:00  
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead
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By Ragnarok.Phuoc 2018-04-06 14:26:04  
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Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 14:26:51  
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.
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By Afania 2018-04-06 14:27:11  
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.


Because we are bored with ffxi, need to post something.
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By Asura.Frod 2018-04-06 14:28:00  
Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.


Because we are bored with ffxi, need to post something.
Nothing left to post? ***post.
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By Foxfire 2018-04-06 14:30:35  
nothing left to post? summonerpost.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 14:31:09  
Asura.Frod said: »
Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.


Because we are bored with ffxi, need to post something.
Nothing left to post? ***post.
Post your smn sets so everyone can go @awww and ooooo”
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-04-06 14:36:17  
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

I'm surprised this one didnt go at the same time, it probably doesnt have much longer to live.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 14:37:18  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

I'm surprised this one didnt go at the same time, it probably doesnt have much longer to live.
Agreed. Put on the life support! I shall keep this thread alive!
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By Asura.Frod 2018-04-06 14:44:57  
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.


Because we are bored with ffxi, need to post something.
Nothing left to post? ***post.
Post your smn sets so everyone can go @awww and ooooo”
I legit need to. The smn thread is like 3 years outdated.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 14:46:30  
Asura.Frod said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
Afania said: »
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Seems enough with the anti elite is dead

It was an obvious trap from a troll, im surprised people fell for it.


Because we are bored with ffxi, need to post something.
Nothing left to post? ***post.
Post your smn sets so everyone can go @awww and ooooo”
I legit need to. The smn thread is like 3 years outdated.
Do eet
 
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-04-06 15:26:42  
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I was talking about whoever you're essentially calling out who insulted your friend based on number of REMA. Number of REMA means you can farm, doesn't mean you can play. I know plenty of meh players that have impressive REMA collections.

When aeonics FIRST came out, having an aeonic would be a viable bragging term. Now we have had months of SMN zerg for ez aeonics and lots of mercs for it, so even aeonics mean nothing about having skill.

Icing on the cake is I will best you any job any time. #Ladyofscum
You look for who to ignore. I look for who to teach. I am God.

I've never understood people who talk ***when they can't possibly be certain they're right. This is pure bravado as we've never played together. Hell, I didn't even know you existed until your raffle post. And this is also elitism that I consider toxic to a community. I suppose it's fitting that this topic was made about you.

I was attempting to figure out a good way to test out your theory. I think a single fight, especially with hate resets and amnesia in current VD ambuscade, wouldn't work. So I was thinking maybe a full run of AA's/Gods in Ru'aun. Come any melee DD, no SP's, equal buffs for us both. What say you?
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 15:42:25  
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Asura.Darian said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I was talking about whoever you're essentially calling out who insulted your friend based on number of REMA. Number of REMA means you can farm, doesn't mean you can play. I know plenty of meh players that have impressive REMA collections.

When aeonics FIRST came out, having an aeonic would be a viable bragging term. Now we have had months of SMN zerg for ez aeonics and lots of mercs for it, so even aeonics mean nothing about having skill.

Icing on the cake is I will best you any job any time. #Ladyofscum
You look for who to ignore. I look for who to teach. I am God.

I've never understood people who talk ***when they can't possibly be certain they're right. This is pure bravado as we've never played together. Hell, I didn't even know you existed until your raffle post. And this is also elitism that I consider toxic to a community. I suppose it's fitting that this topic was made about you.

I was attempting to figure out a good way to test out your theory. I think a single fight, especially with hate resets and amnesia in current VD ambuscade, wouldn't work. So I was thinking maybe a full run of AA's/Gods in Ru'aun. Come any melee DD, no SP's, equal buffs for us both. What say you?
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By Afania 2018-04-06 15:44:41  
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Asura.Darian said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I was talking about whoever you're essentially calling out who insulted your friend based on number of REMA. Number of REMA means you can farm, doesn't mean you can play. I know plenty of meh players that have impressive REMA collections.

When aeonics FIRST came out, having an aeonic would be a viable bragging term. Now we have had months of SMN zerg for ez aeonics and lots of mercs for it, so even aeonics mean nothing about having skill.

Icing on the cake is I will best you any job any time. #Ladyofscum
You look for who to ignore. I look for who to teach. I am God.

I've never understood people who talk ***when they can't possibly be certain they're right. This is pure bravado as we've never played together. Hell, I didn't even know you existed until your raffle post. And this is also elitism that I consider toxic to a community. I suppose it's fitting that this topic was made about you.

I was attempting to figure out a good way to test out your theory. I think a single fight, especially with hate resets and amnesia in current VD ambuscade, wouldn't work. So I was thinking maybe a full run of AA's/Gods in Ru'aun. Come any melee DD, no SP's, equal buffs for us both. What say you?
Don’t turn this into FF11 UFC

Yes to FFXI UFC. Don't forget to stream it so we can cheer for our favorite side. More fun to watch than private server streams.
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By Asura.Darian 2018-04-06 15:49:24  
Same old same old from the mods here. Delete one topic leave something of the same. Hypocrites. Probably only have a Yagrush.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-04-06 15:52:36  
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Asura.Darian said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I was talking about whoever you're essentially calling out who insulted your friend based on number of REMA. Number of REMA means you can farm, doesn't mean you can play. I know plenty of meh players that have impressive REMA collections.

When aeonics FIRST came out, having an aeonic would be a viable bragging term. Now we have had months of SMN zerg for ez aeonics and lots of mercs for it, so even aeonics mean nothing about having skill.

Icing on the cake is I will best you any job any time. #Ladyofscum
You look for who to ignore. I look for who to teach. I am God.

I've never understood people who talk ***when they can't possibly be certain they're right. This is pure bravado as we've never played together. Hell, I didn't even know you existed until your raffle post. And this is also elitism that I consider toxic to a community. I suppose it's fitting that this topic was made about you.

I was attempting to figure out a good way to test out your theory. I think a single fight, especially with hate resets and amnesia in current VD ambuscade, wouldn't work. So I was thinking maybe a full run of AA's/Gods in Ru'aun. Come any melee DD, no SP's, equal buffs for us both. What say you?

I’d like to get in on that actually. Not getting involved with w/e you two have going on, I’ve just been wanting a chance to test my THF BLU and WAR
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-04-06 15:52:42  
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Same old same old from the mods here. Delete one topic leave something of the same. Hypocrites. Probably only have a Yagrush.

Except your "call out" topic involved specific names. This call out topic is only associated with you because you made it obvious.

And I'll re-install OBS for this and stream it if Darian agrees.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Senaki 2018-04-06 15:58:09  
I'm not elitist, but I would support the social hierarchy if I was on top.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-04-06 16:00:56  
The only real macho comparison of Pixellectual wits and feats is a Ballista match. But it must follow a certain, strict set of rules. And since I am the oldest-playing veteran NA with active Ballista Royale experience and a track record of wasting hours in that failure of an excuse for PVP, I hereby announce myself as Herald for such an event.

Fight rules are as follows.

Location: Purgo Isle - Abdhaljs (Brenner warp zone)

Both must come:
MNK job
No support job (will be removed at battlefield anyways)
No job abilities, except three (see below)
No running, no kiting
Items restricted
Level 99 cap
Naked wearing Sacrarium undies, open chested torso (you can choose this one)
No prebuffing food allowed (we will require an antacid used before the match starts; herald will provide)
Only additional involuntary actions/prebuffing that are allowed: Guarding, Countering, or changing your merits before the fight.

Since this game relies on random numbers, the only fitting way to prove who is the best is through random natural selection. Gear, Money, and influence has no authority in this match. It is, therefore, only appropriate that we use the randomness of Counter, Guard, Evasion, and h2h damage to determine the best of the best.

Fight goes as follows:
Both characters use the "Boost" Job ability. Activate Counterstance. After 10 seconds, run in and fight. You cannot move. You are allowed to use Chakra, once. Choose wisely. Whoever wins in an old-fashioned slug match is the King Great White Hope. This will prove who decided that Guard skill wasn't important, and is truly as a whole, a complete embarrasment to all of FFXI, as is the MNK job itself.

This will be live streamed so our entire community can see who really is the strongest combatant, in a "King of Wakanda" styled setting. Would be truly epic, and you can't buy your way out of this one.

Deal?
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Fight addendum:

Combatants may choose to use one weaponskill, if they get TP. This will be the only active change to the official rules.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Senaki 2018-04-06 16:05:26  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The only real macho comparison of Pixellectual wits and feats is a Ballista match. But it must follow a certain, strict set of rules. And since I am the oldest-playing veteran NA with active Ballista Royale experience and a track record of wasting hours in that failure of an excuse for PVP, I hereby announce myself as Herald for such an event.

Fight rules are as follows.

Location: Purgo Isle - Abdhaljs (Brenner warp zone)

Both must come:
MNK job
No support job (will be removed at battlefield anyways)
No job abilities, except three (see below)
No running, no kiting
Items restricted
Level 99 cap
Naked wearing Sacrarium undies, open chested torso (you can choose this one)
No prebuffing food allowed (we will require an antacid used before the match starts; herald will provide)
Only additional involuntary actions/prebuffing that are allowed: Guarding, Countering, or changing your merits before the fight.

Since this game relies on random numbers, the only fitting way to prove who is the best is through random natural selection. Gear, Money, and influence has no authority in this match. It is, therefore, only appropriate that we use the randomness of Counter, Guard, Evasion, and h2h damage to determine the best of the best.

Fight goes as follows:
Both characters use the "Boost" Job ability. Activate Counterstance. After 10 seconds, run in and fight. You cannot move. You are allowed to use Chakra, once. Choose wisely. Whoever wins in an old-fashioned slug match is the King Great White Hope. This will prove who decided that Guard skill wasn't important, and is truly as a whole, a complete failure to all of FFXI, as is the MNK job itself.

This will be live streamed so our entire community can see who really is the strongest combatant, in a "King of Wakanda" styled setting. Would be truly epic, and you can't buy your way out of this one.

Deal?

But how will you factor in merit points + race factors that might influence the results?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-04-06 16:10:29  
Quetzalcoatl.Senaki said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The only real macho comparison of Pixellectual wits and feats is a Ballista match. But it must follow a certain, strict set of rules. And since I am the oldest-playing veteran NA with active Ballista Royale experience and a track record of wasting hours in that failure of an excuse for PVP, I hereby announce myself as Herald for such an event.

Fight rules are as follows.

Location: Purgo Isle - Abdhaljs (Brenner warp zone)

Both must come:
MNK job
No support job (will be removed at battlefield anyways)
No job abilities, except three (see below)
No running, no kiting
Items restricted
Level 99 cap
Naked wearing Sacrarium undies, open chested torso (you can choose this one)
No prebuffing food allowed (we will require an antacid used before the match starts; herald will provide)
Only additional involuntary actions/prebuffing that are allowed: Guarding, Countering, or changing your merits before the fight.

Since this game relies on random numbers, the only fitting way to prove who is the best is through random natural selection. Gear, Money, and influence has no authority in this match. It is, therefore, only appropriate that we use the randomness of Counter, Guard, Evasion, and h2h damage to determine the best of the best.

Fight goes as follows:
Both characters use the "Boost" Job ability. Activate Counterstance. After 10 seconds, run in and fight. You cannot move. You are allowed to use Chakra, once. Choose wisely. Whoever wins in an old-fashioned slug match is the King Great White Hope. This will prove who decided that Guard skill wasn't important, and is truly as a whole, a complete failure to all of FFXI, as is the MNK job itself.

This will be live streamed so our entire community can see who really is the strongest combatant, in a "King of Wakanda" styled setting. Would be truly epic, and you can't buy your way out of this one.

Deal?

But how will you factor in merit points + race factors that might influence the results?

Silence, mere lout! Race has no jurisdiction here. There is no innate advantage, just an excuse for those who are feeble minded and need a crutch in fear of failure. A fight to the death on the Monk Job, naked, subless, and powerless is punishment enough.

Players may allocate their merits beforehand to account for any advantages they may need. Other than that, the fists will determine the victor.

In this arena, you cannot bark, and then claim foul or unfair play. if you're good enough to call someone out fully geared where cash and character progress may give one or the other the advantage, this setting would hardly be any more unfair.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-04-06 16:11:43  
Quetzalcoatl.Senaki said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The only real macho comparison of Pixellectual wits and feats is a Ballista match. But it must follow a certain, strict set of rules. And since I am the oldest-playing veteran NA with active Ballista Royale experience and a track record of wasting hours in that failure of an excuse for PVP, I hereby announce myself as Herald for such an event.

Fight rules are as follows.

Location: Purgo Isle - Abdhaljs (Brenner warp zone)

Both must come:
MNK job
No support job (will be removed at battlefield anyways)
No job abilities, except three (see below)
No running, no kiting
Items restricted
Level 99 cap
Naked wearing Sacrarium undies, open chested torso (you can choose this one)
No prebuffing food allowed (we will require an antacid used before the match starts; herald will provide)
Only additional involuntary actions/prebuffing that are allowed: Guarding, Countering, or changing your merits before the fight.

Since this game relies on random numbers, the only fitting way to prove who is the best is through random natural selection. Gear, Money, and influence has no authority in this match. It is, therefore, only appropriate that we use the randomness of Counter, Guard, Evasion, and h2h damage to determine the best of the best.

Fight goes as follows:
Both characters use the "Boost" Job ability. Activate Counterstance. After 10 seconds, run in and fight. You cannot move. You are allowed to use Chakra, once. Choose wisely. Whoever wins in an old-fashioned slug match is the King Great White Hope. This will prove who decided that Guard skill wasn't important, and is truly as a whole, a complete failure to all of FFXI, as is the MNK job itself.

This will be live streamed so our entire community can see who really is the strongest combatant, in a "King of Wakanda" styled setting. Would be truly epic, and you can't buy your way out of this one.

Deal?

But how will you factor in merit points + race factors that might influence the results?
Last I checked the updates changed race stats to be the same.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2018-04-06 16:14:06  
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I'd like to remind everyone that when you started this game you were just like we are, and like everyone else. Everyone starts at the bottom. There are no exceptions, especially in FFXI. It doesn't matter if you buy your account if you buy your REMA's, your gil, your clears or anything else that you may need.

You still have to learn how to play, still need to figure out macros, job style, gear, ja's, traits, combat styles, strategies and anything else that the game throws at us.

This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, but more so at all of us including MYSELF, that needs to be reminded at times where we come from.

Recently, a friend of mine was insulted on this forum, being told he failed at the game for only have a few REMA's, the number of REMA's are not the goal of the game or what makes a player great. It's the attitude one brings to the table, the inspiration they put into others and above all the knowledge they have of the jobs they play. I know several players that have all that with 0 REMA, and i'd play with them any day over those that have 10+ REMA. So if REMA makes you the great player that you are and gives you the right to **** on people then you need to remember where you come from, because you weren't always there, and maybe you need to go back there for a reminder.

<3 always Muri :P

I'm an elitist, so I pretty much disagree with everything you said and don't condone this thread at all, but your friend just needs to grow some thicker skin and learn to roll his or her eyes at an obvious loser. If someone's trying to attack someone else for the number of shinnies they have, the only real response is pity, not rantings.
 
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