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By Blazed1979 2018-03-18 14:20:10  
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Oh no, Trump may have hid a pre-presidential affair. It's really too bad that the only people who care already worship Clinton and JFK.
JFK was SO hotter than Trump.
I worked for Nixon in the 1960 election but JFK was SO hot.

I would mever think about *** Nixos, but JFK...?

/blush I did
I am surprisingly disturbed.
Way out of character. You think you know someone and then they randomly say they wanna *** JFK...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-18 15:30:20  
I was 15 Blazed.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-18 15:33:48  
FEC Reportedly Investigating Whether Russia Used NRA to Funnel Money to Trump
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Lawyer who worked for NRA said to have had concerns about group’s Russia ties

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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-19 09:33:48  
D.C. Lawmaker Claims Rothschilds Caused Recent Snowfall
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A Washington, D.C. councilman—and now failed meteorologist—has apologized for pushing a wild conspiracy theory that the recent snowfall in the capital was caused by the Rothschild banking dynasty. As snow began to fall in the city on Friday, Trayon White Sr., a member of the district’s legislative branch, posted a Facebook video in which he insisted the family of Jewish billionaires—and magnet for anti-Semitic conspiracy theories—was intentionally controlling the climate to gain greater control of U.S. cities. “Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man. Y’all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation,” White narrated on the video. “And D.C. keep talking about, ‘We a resilient city.’ And that’s a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful.” After initially defending his commentary, White later apologized, telling The Washington Post: “I work hard every day to combat racism and prejudices of all kinds. I want to apologize to the Jewish community and anyone I have offended,” he said. “The Jewish community have been allies with me in my journey to help people. I did not intend to be anti-Semitic, and I see I should not have said that after learning from my colleagues.”
 
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 11:56:36  
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I was 15 Blazed.

Judging by your posts you still are 15.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 11:57:11  
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Alexander Torshin actually IS wanted by Spanish police for his part in a Russian mafia money laundering ring that sent a large sum of money to the NRA, of which 30 million dollars wound up in Trump's campaign funds.

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By fonewear 2018-03-19 11:59:02  
Blazed1979 said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Oh no, Trump may have hid a pre-presidential affair. It's really too bad that the only people who care already worship Clinton and JFK.
JFK was SO hotter than Trump.
I worked for Nixon in the 1960 election but JFK was SO hot.

I would mever think about *** Nixos, but JFK...?

/blush I did
I am surprisingly disturbed.
Way out of character. You think you know someone and then they randomly say they wanna *** JFK...

System is wrong man it's the corporations man they rule everything man !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-19 13:18:13  
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Alexander Torshin actually IS wanted by Spanish police for his part in a Russian mafia money laundering ring that sent a large sum of money to the NRA, of which 30 million dollars wound up in Trump's campaign funds.
They haven't yet made those connections CJ, but they are working on it.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 13:39:10  
The hysteria is real ! Quick the Russians are coming ! The Russians ! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR !
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 13:41:29  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Candlejack said: »
Alexander Torshin actually IS wanted by Spanish police for his part in a Russian mafia money laundering ring that sent a large sum of money to the NRA, of which 30 million dollars wound up in Trump's campaign funds.
They haven't yet made those connections CJ, but they are working on it.

Mueller is coming to take me away !

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By fonewear 2018-03-19 13:42:54  

Mc Don't give a *** but thanks for posting links.
 
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 14:26:30  
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In fact, Torshin's connection to that ring in Spain was so strong that he canceled a trip to Spain to avoid being arrested.
Article by Propublica, dated 1/19/2018. Note, it's a long read, and well worth it. Also, it seems Andrew McCabe had been an FBI agent in New York who was tasked with handling the Russian mafia as well. Therein lies a possible other connection with his recent firing.
/www.propublica.org[/b]/article/russian-politician-who-reportedly-sent-millions-to-nra-has-long-history-in-spain]Alexander Torshin has a long history in Spain
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Russian Politician Who Reportedly Sent Millions to NRA Has Long History in Spain

Spanish authorities were poised to arrest Alexander Torshin in a money-laundering case in 2013 when he mysteriously canceled his trip to Spain.

As the Spanish police investigated the presence of a notorious Russian organized crime group on the resort island of Mallorca in 2012, they realized that a key figure described by some of the suspects as their “godfather” was a powerful Moscow politician: Alexander Torshin.

Spanish prosecutors decided in the summer of 2013 to arrest Torshin, who was then a senator, officials say. Police set up an operation to capture him during a visit to Mallorca, but he mysteriously canceled the trip at the last minute, apparently as the result of a tip, authorities said. Torshin was never charged, while the other suspects were convicted of money laundering. Last year, he publicly denied any wrongdoing in the Spanish money-laundering case.

Now, Torshin, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has reemerged as a potentially important figure in special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s inquiry into suspected Russian support for the campaign of President Donald Trump.

Yesterday, McClatchy Newspapers reported that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin, now a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, funneled money to the National Rifle Association that was subsequently spent in support of the Trump campaign. The NRA reported spending $30 million on advertisements and other aid to Trump, part of a record $55 million that the group spent during the 2016 campaign cycle, according to the McClatchy story.

It is illegal for foreign groups and individuals to contribute directly or indirectly to political campaigns in the United States. A spokeswoman for the FBI declined to comment on the report Thursday.

Documents from the Spanish investigation make clear that the FBI had been looking closely for years at the Moscow-based organized crime group that Spanish authorities say was connected to Torshin. The FBI gave the Spaniards a memo about the group in 2013, and Spanish prosecutors provided information to FBI officials about Torshin, according to interviews and documents.

The gregarious 64-year-old Torshin has been able to cut an extraordinary swath through conservative political circles in the U.S. since then. A gun enthusiast and lifetime member of the NRA, he cultivated the gun lobby and political figures including Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., according to published reports. Torshin also made contact with the Trump presidential campaign and Trump’s inner circle, according to news reports, though at least one of his overtures was apparently rebuffed.

In congressional testimony released publicly Thursday, Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, the research firm whose investigative “dossier” in the Trump-Russia affair has caused considerable controversy, told the House Intelligence Committee that the Russian connections to the NRA were suspicious.

“It appears the Russians, you know, infiltrated the NRA,” Simpson said, according to a published transcript. “And there is more than one explanation for why. But I would say broadly speaking, it appears that the Russian operation was designed to infiltrate conservative organizations.”

The McClatchy report, which quoted two anonymous sources familiar with the FBI investigation, said it was unclear how much money Torshin might have donated to the NRA. The report said the NRA made most of its donations through campaign finance entities that are not required to disclose their donors. The NRA did not respond to a request for comment from ProPublica; the organization also did not comment in the McClatchy article.

ProPublica called and sent emails and text messages to the press office of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation to request comment from Torshin. A spokeswoman, Marina Ryklina, responded Friday to say that the bank had not been commenting on the matter, but would review the request.

As Torshin began building his political profile in the U.S., he also became the focus of a Spanish law enforcement crackdown on a wave of Russian mobsters who came to Spain in the 1990s and 2000s to escape violence at home, launder money in real estate and tourism enterprises, and extend their reach in international business. ProPublica reviewed case files and interviewed investigators in Spain last year for a report about Russian organized crime and power networks.

Although Spanish prosecutors ultimately decided not to charge Torshin, they considered him the top suspect in an investigation that included his intercepted calls to suspects in Mallorca, as well as information provided to Spanish authorities by the FBI, court documents and interviews indicate.

“The arrest of Torshin had been approved,” a senior Spanish prosecutor, José Grinda González, said in an interview. “The thesis in August 2013 was that he was at the top of a criminal structure dedicated to money laundering ... We still consider him the investor who injected money into this structure in Spain.”

Torshin was a banker before becoming a leader of Putin’s United Russia party and being elected to the Russian Senate. In 2005, he oversaw a politically sensitive legislative probe into the Beslan massacre, a chaotic incident during which at least 330 people died after Chechen terrorists barricaded themselves in a school with more than a thousand hostages, many of them children. Despite allegations that Russian security forces botched the siege and showed little regard for the safety of the hostages, the inquiry absolved them of any responsibility. It was criticized as a result.

Spanish court documents allege that the roots of Torshin’s alleged ties to organized crime date back to the mid-1990s, when he first served at Russia’s Central Bank as a mid-level official and became friendly with one of his subordinates, Alexander Romanov. While Torshin went into politics, Romanov pursued a business career, serving as an executive at the Rosneft energy company and a distillery, according to court documents. But Romanov also ran afoul of the Russian authorities, according to Spanish court documents, which linked him to the powerful Taganskaya mob of Moscow.

Romanov and associates in the Taganskaya gang allegedly participated in criminal operations known as “raids,” in which gangsters used force to take over companies, according to court documents and interviews. In 2005, Romanov was convicted of financial crimes in Russia and served prison time, according to the Spanish documents.

Romanov remained a friend and business associate of Torshin, forging an alliance that bridged politics, business and crime in a manner typical of the Russian underworld, Spanish officials said. Another Russian lawmaker, Vladislav Reznik, faces trial in Madrid this year on charges of having a similar business and political relationship with a Russian crime boss, Gennady Petrov.

Torshin also did business and communicated with other suspected Taganskaya figures, according to the case file. On July 12, 2013, an FBI agent working on organized crime issues at the U.S. embassy in Madrid provided Spanish investigators with a memorandum on the Taganskaya gang, including figures identified by Spanish documents as associates of Torshin. The memo shows that the FBI had been tracking the Russian group since the 1990s.

The FBI described the Taganskaya mob’s involvement in illicit corporate “raids” in Russia and suspected money laundering in New Jersey, according to the memo. It also says that a Taganskaya figure described by the Spaniards as an associate of Torshin “may have been running financial operations for deceased thief-in-law Vyacheslav Ivankov” — a notorious mobster who during the 1990s spent time in New York and reportedly lived in Trump Tower for a while.

But the FBI memo does not mention Torshin. The FBI did not provide the Spanish with information about the Russian politician, Grinda said Friday. The Spanish authorities relayed their evidence and suspicions about Torshin’s role in the case to the FBI, he said.

Court documents in other cases show that, during the past 15 years, the FBI has often played a significant behind-the-scenes role supplying information to Spanish investigators about Russian gangsters and politically connected oligarchs with ties to Spain.

Spanish police zeroed in on Romanov in 2010, soon after he purchased the Hotel Mar i Pins, which stands atop a hill at the end of a beachfront promenade in the idyllic Mallorcan town of Peguera. Romanov spent at least $15 million on buying and renovating the four-star, 150-room hotel, and moved into a villa next door, according to court documents and interviews. Police quickly suspected that he was part of an influx of mob-connected Russians who came to Mallorca and other Spanish resort areas in the 1990s and 2000s, documents say.


The Spaniards’ surveillance soon detected Romanov’s relationship with Torshin, then a senator, according to documents and officials. Investigators intercepted a series of calls between the two men, some from Torshin’s Senate office in Moscow and others from cellphones belonging to Torshin and his wife, documents show. The intercepts and other evidence led investigators to believe that Romanov and other suspects helped launder Torshin’s money through the hotel and also scouted investment opportunities for him in Spain.

In some of the telephone calls, Romanov and his associates referred to Torshin as “the boss” and “the godfather,” according to an investigative summary of the intercepts. Romanov stated that “his godfather” secretly owned up to 80 percent of the shares in the hotel, according to court documents. In other calls, Romanov indicated that the politician was interested in acquiring another hotel and that “managing the hotel through third parties would be better” for Torshin.

In a conversation with Romanov in February of 2013, Torshin “clearly offers to ‘exert pressure’ to achieve what he, Romanov and Gavrilov want,” an intercept summary says. “Torshin tells him to call today or tomorrow first thing in the morning to talk about how and who to pressure because now he has new possibilities of talking [to someone] in a more ‘serious’ manner.”

By the summer of 2013, prosecutors concluded they had enough evidence to arrest Torshin, according to Grinda and other investigators. Investigators learned that the Russian senator planned to fly to Mallorca to celebrate Romanov’s birthday in August, officials said. Police planned to deploy officers at the airport and the hotel to arrest him upon arrival.

But for reasons that remain unclear, Torshin canceled his visit just two days before the flight, investigators said. Officials believe that a dispute in Spanish law enforcement about the decision to make such a diplomatically sensitive arrest may have led to a leak that reached Torshin. Torshin would have been the most powerful figure arrested in Spanish cases that have targeted Russian Cabinet ministers, elected officials, security chiefs and oligarchs.

Prosecutors decided not to charge Torshin because suspects cannot be tried in absentia in Spain and the case could have been paralyzed, Grinda said. In a plea deal in 2016, Romanov was convicted of lesser charges of money laundering and falsifying documents and was sentenced to three years and nine months in prison.

Torshin denied wrongdoing in a statement published last year by El País newspaper of Spain. He said, according to the newspaper, that Spanish authorities “have never provided either Mr. Torshin or Russian law enforcement agencies with any kind of information about the alleged ties of Mr. Torshin with organized crime. Mr. Torshin was acquainted with Alexander Romanov in the 1990s, their contacts were informal in nature and terminated seven years ago. Mr. Torshin has never intended to visit Alexander Romanov. Mr. Torshin has never had any business connections with Alexander Romanov. Mr. Torshin has never owned real estate or business in Spain.”

I stopped reading right here. Pro publica what *** is that some communist website ?
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 14:27:19  
Candlejack said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Candlejack said: »
Alexander Torshin actually IS wanted by Spanish police for his part in a Russian mafia money laundering ring that sent a large sum of money to the NRA, of which 30 million dollars wound up in Trump's campaign funds.
They haven't yet made those connections CJ, but they are working on it.
The Spanish cops have made the connections. A Russian mob money laundering ring with connections to Torshin donated a substantial amount of cash back in 2015 to the NRA. Then, the NRA, at Torshin's request, donated $30 mil of that money to the Trump campaign in 2015/2016, and some smaller amounts to other Republicans. Torshin used to be Russia's finance minister and worked directly under Putin.

Oh no the Spanish cops are onto me ! I'll hide behind a burrito.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 14:27:43  
Spanish cops Russian mafia sounds like you are watching too many James Bond movies.
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By Blazed1979 2018-03-19 14:29:36  
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I was 15 Blazed.
You were jailbait is what you are saying!
so disappointed.
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By Blazed1979 2018-03-19 14:37:49  
Russian Mob, NRA... damn this ***better be made into a movie at some point. Fcuk Game of Thrones, this is the most entertainment I've had since the original Quantum leap t.v show
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 14:41:04  
Russian Mafia probably main source of income is mail order brides not bribing Presidents.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 14:41:28  
You guys believe everything you read. Cause I don't read anything so I don't believe in well...anything.
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By Blazed1979 2018-03-19 14:44:24  
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I was 15 Blazed.
You were jailbait is what you are saying!
so disappointed.

No offense but your profile picture screams terrorist...
None taken. Is it the beard of the masculine forehead and jawline?
fonewear said: »
I'm not saying you are a terrorist but you might want to not appear like a terrorist to women and small children...
I think I look good dude. Kids love me. Women make love to me.
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By Blazed1979 2018-03-19 14:46:27  
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You guys believe everything you read. Cause I don't read anything so I don't believe in well...anything.
Yeah Russia just sits back and shoot the breeze. There's no way they're working with criminals. There's no way Putin boinked Megyn Kelly.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 15:13:33  
Blazed1979 said: »
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Blazed1979 said: »
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I was 15 Blazed.
You were jailbait is what you are saying!
so disappointed.

No offense but your profile picture screams terrorist...
None taken. Is it the beard of the masculine forehead and jawline?
fonewear said: »
I'm not saying you are a terrorist but you might want to not appear like a terrorist to women and small children...
I think I look good dude. Kids love me. Women make love to me.

Maybe it is the beard. If could grow a terrorist beard I would. I want the people at the airport to fondle me.
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By fonewear 2018-03-19 15:14:25  
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You guys believe everything you read. Cause I don't read anything so I don't believe in well...anything.
Yeah Russia just sits back and shoot the breeze. There's no way they're working with criminals. There's no way Putin boinked Megyn Kelly.

That yes but I don't think Russia is as powerful as they want us to believe. They are still mad about the Cold War.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-19 15:53:21  
Cambridge Analytica's CEO Was Filmed Secretly Bragging About Entrapping Politicians With Sex Workers

Alexander Nix told an undercover reporter from Britain's Channel 4 News how the firm, which worked on the Trump campaign, used front companies to secretly campaign in elections around the world.

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