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By Vishwambhari 2022-07-07 04:38:47  
Asura.Jyubeii said: »
oh snap, empy items back in login points for all you lazy folk
FML
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-07-07 04:44:47  
Asura.Jyubeii said: »
oh snap, empy items back in login points for all you lazy folk

Jesus Christ about time.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-07-07 04:46:14  
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oh snap, empy items back in login points for all you lazy folk
Convenient, given how they are required to upgrade Empy from +2 to 119.
I was about to give up and finally farm some Apademak to reforge my Unkai gear but now maybe I won't have to! XD
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2022-07-07 04:46:38  
Couldn't it have been during free login month :x
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By Draylo 2022-07-07 05:10:41  
This day has finally come...
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By IGDC 2022-07-07 06:19:27  
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Asura.Jyubeii said: »
oh snap, empy items back in login points for all you lazy folk

Jesus Christ about time.

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By Aoibhe 2022-07-07 07:25:27  
Wow... This is not a drill. Just as I was letting my accounts expire for a while.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-07-07 08:49:53  
March 2019 was the last time they had Emp items, not that long ago.
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2022-07-07 09:45:02  
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Couldn't it have been during free login month :x

That would be too convenient! Haha.
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By Asura.Focaubiont 2022-07-07 10:31:54  
Any bets this was a mistake and they'll replace it with something much more useless so we can make sure we feel our requisite maximum disappointment for the month?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-07-07 10:53:18  
Should be pretty clear this is intended, as it came right after they showed and announced empyearn for August update. They normally always include upgrade mats or something similar in Login Points for events/campaigns prior to/during to encourage newer players to complete pieces. Seeing as how they've made so much effort to make this available to new players, they want you completing the 109/119 sets beforehand, so they are making it easier by just giving you empy items. They aren't doing this for people to complete weapons faster, though that's obviously what most people are excited about. Completely intended.
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By SimonSes 2022-07-07 11:03:38  
I also think this is intended and I also think it's related to 109 empy armor. They didn't give those items for past years, because they know it will be used mostly for easy empy weapons upgrade, but they make exception now to let people catch up with empy armor.
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By Asura.Essylt 2022-07-08 02:29:03  
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difficulty scale set to plebe tier
Except Odyssey Gaol is the most difficult endgame content XI has ever had by a pretty wide margin. There are quite a few things I dislike about the design of the event, but lacking difficulty is certainly not one of them.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-07-08 02:55:04  
Eh, I'd say that initial release Legion and pre-ilvl Delve were comparable in difficulty, as well as some of the master trials pre-power creep.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-07-08 09:11:07  
I'd also add on that you only need the odyssey wins once, and farming it for max has an incredibly low barrier to entry. It manages to both be extremely restrictive to get the clears, while being incredibly easy and repetitive to max pieces.
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By Draylo 2022-07-08 19:20:45  
Which can be said about tons of content in the games history. Beating Delve once let you clear it much easier due to the weapons, etc. It's ok to say this game has some challenging fights occasionally, doesn't make you look uncool lol. Hell getting other competent people to clear those is probably the hardest end game.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-07-08 20:22:40  
Comparing the previewed pieces to what we have, it looks like the +1 > +2 armor pieces all gain +20 Defense/HP/MP (when the piece has MP), +40 EVA/MEVA by default. There doesn't seem to be a pattern for the attribute increases other than seeming to range from 5-10 above the +1.
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By Starbucks 2022-07-09 05:22:53  
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Would PDT2/MDT2 on jobs other than pld or run really break the game? If +2 are 13% then +3 will be at least 15% but it's not hard to get 50% already

It would for sure break the game, because they would need to balance content around people having access to that. Currently they can balance around people having access to MDT/PDT at 50% and people can get there with many combinations. With PDT/MDT/DT II on just empy+3 it would be mandatory to use empy and nothing else in endgame. Unless they will simply make more attacks ignoring pdt/mdt/dt, but then it would be even worse. Also remember DT above 50% is getting relatively stronger with each %. From 0% to 50% that 50% less damage. From 50% you only need additional 25% to cut damage by 50% again. Also things like stoneskin and phalanx would be able to cut damage to 0 in a lot of cases.
Ok so just give them DT and a damage taken -20 or something? Like phalanx but not phalanx+
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By Starbucks 2022-07-09 05:23:38  
Or just give DRG DT2 on theirs so that more people will play it
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By Aerix 2022-07-09 06:39:42  
Why would they? SE want DDs to be squishier than tanks in exchange for being able to output damage. And all ML'd jobs already have access to Super Jump these days anyway, so a smart player shouldn't be getting destroyed in most circumstances.

Also, DRG is a flavor of the year DD currently due to SB spam in Odyssey. Pretty sure enough people are playing it.
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By Nariont 2022-07-09 07:26:51  
Giving everyone DTII just means tanks need more of it and eventually youll hit that cap too and we can just have Autos and/or tp moves that regularly ignore all DT cause thatll be great im sure
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-07-09 07:33:30  
They would just make mobs stronger. 99%DT doesn't matter when tp moves do 300k
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By Thunderjet 2022-07-09 07:43:52  
where can i find some of the Empy +2 leaks please
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-07-09 07:51:42  
Middle of 294, just the 6 og bodies

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Boii Lorica +2 (WAR)
DEF:164 HP+86 STR+38 DEX+34 VIT+38 AGI+29 INT+29 MND+29 CHR+29 Accuracy+54 Attack+64 Magic Accuracy+54 Evasion+84 Magic Evasion+99 "Magic Def. Bonus"+7 Haste+3% Great Axe skill +16 "Store TP"+10 "Blood Rage" duration +36 Damage Taken-13% Set: Augments "Double Attack"

Ebers Bliaut +2 (WHM)
DEF:145 HP+117 MP+129 STR+25 DEX+30 VIT+30 AGI+25 INT+40 MND+43 CHR+34 Accuracy+54 Magic Accuracy+54 Evasion+81 Magic Evasion+120 "Magic Def. Bonus"+10 Haste+3% Healing magic skill +29 Regen+4 "Refresh"+3 "Afflatus Solace"+16 Set: Augments elemental resistance spells

Wicce Coat +2 (BLM)
DEF:144 HP+70 MP+122 STR+24 DEX+24 VIT+29 AGI+29 INT+45 MND+38 CHR+38 Accuracy+54 Magic Accuracy+54 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+54 Magic Damage+24 Evasion+78 Magic Evasion+131 "Magic Def. Bonus"+10 Haste+3% Elemental magic recast delay -15%
Magic burst damage II+4 "Refresh"+3 Set: Augments "Conserve MP"

Bhikku Cyclas +2 (MNK)
DEF:145 HP+79 STR+35 DEX+34 VIT+34 AGI+55 INT+26 MND+33 CHR+28 Accuracy+54 Attack+64 Magic Accuracy+54 Evasion+95 Magic Evasion+99 "Magic Def. Bonus"+7 Haste+4% "Martial Arts"+7 Augments "Impetus" Weapon Skill Damage+8% Set: Augments "Kick Attacks"

Lethargy Sayon +2 (RDM)
DEF:147 HP+77 MP+81 STR+29 DEX+29 VIT+25 AGI+25 INT+42 MND+40 CHR+30 Accuracy+54 Attack+54 Magic Accuracy+54 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+49 Magic Damage+24 Evasion+81 Magic Evasion+126 "Magic Def. Bonus"+10 Haste+3% Enfeebling magic effect +16 "Refresh"+3 Damage Taken-13% Set: Augments "Composure"

Skulker's Vest +2 (THF)
DEF:151 HP+83 STR+35 DEX+46 VIT+29 AGI+43 INT+26 MND+26 CHR+26 Accuracy+54 Attack+54 Magic Accuracy+54 Evasion+95 Magic Evasion+109 "Magic Def. Bonus"+9 Dagger skill +33 Haste+6% Augments "Conspirator" Weapon Skill Damage+8% Set: Augments "Triple Attack"
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2022-07-09 08:03:10  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
They would just make mobs stronger. 99%DT doesn't matter when tp moves do 300k
Cmonnnnn

Can't SE's goal be to make things easier and easier for the future where only like 10 people are subbed? How am I supposed to beat things with just my trusts unless they give me 99dt and make trusts scale with master levels! ugh
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By Thunderjet 2022-07-09 08:06:26  
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
They would just make mobs stronger. 99%DT doesn't matter when tp moves do 300k
Cmonnnnn

Can't SE's goal be to make things easier and easier for the future where only like 10 people are subbed? How am I supposed to beat things with just my trusts unless they give me 99dt and make trusts scale with master levels! ugh

they need to just give us content with cleave or Aoe its annoying
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-07-09 08:31:11  
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Which can be said about tons of content in the games history. Beating Delve once let you clear it much easier due to the weapons, etc. It's ok to say this game has some challenging fights occasionally, doesn't make you look uncool lol. Hell getting other competent people to clear those is probably the hardest end game.

I didn't say the fights weren't challenging, I called them extremely restrictive. But, there's a big difference between being able to go from 18man to 16man in delve, and having to chip off 5% to get nearly full credit. The RP system is pure handout.
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