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 Odin.Lusiphur
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-03-07 07:22:17  
Personally changed from my older "main character" to the name that most people know me as from elsewhere in the community.

These other guys? Don't think there's any good intentions behind it.

Mattelot said: »
He has more posts than you do and his account has an actual character tied to it when yours doesn't

Yes, post count is definitely the best measure of a community member's contributions.
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By Mattelot 2022-03-07 07:22:30  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
No, there’s disagreeing with someone, and disagreeing while insulting them or calling them simps or just being abrasively rude. Half his posts are like this.

The latter describes more than half the people I see posting in this forum. They always seem to find some way to slip in some insult, condescending remark or any other way to poke at someone while replying to them. This is not exclusive. Ever seen a picket rally? Those guys scream insults at each other for no other reason than they have different views.

Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Using a literal second account to post when your main has made posts in the past screams socks.

It's all linked to the exact same account with the exact same character. Plus that one has a whole 2 posts. There is nothing he's hiding in doing this so there is nothing to gain.

Odin.Lusiphur said: »
Yes, post count is definitely the best measure of a community member's contributions.

You didn't answer the question. What constitutes a sock? I've been called one before because I didn't agree with someone when my character is linked and one of the oldest characters here. People around here have some very odd criteria for their definitions.
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 Bismarck.Firedemon
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-03-07 07:33:09  
Mattelot said: »
It's all linked to the exact same account with the exact same character.

My bad, guess he just got lucky with Seabird Rings then.
 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-03-07 08:16:20  
Everyone waste your email response to ask SE to finally give blu spike flail OK thank you
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By GetHelpNerd 2022-03-07 08:58:34  
everyone you don't like the opinion of = a sock.

draylo and some others basically established this mentality around here, it's odd to say the least. if you grep'd draylo's post history about 60% of the 10,000 would have the word "sock" in them
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By Mattelot 2022-03-07 09:29:23  
GetHelpNerd said: »
60% of the 10,000 would have the word "sock" in them

Give the guy a break... maybe he just likes actual socks. I mean, I own many unexpected pairs. I work in an office and people comment on mine every so often. Today... it's black dress socks with Freddy Kreuger gloves on them.
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By Fenrir.Velner 2022-03-07 10:28:56  
Draylo said: »
SE sending out opinion forms and asking what people want to say to the dev team. Tell them we want a new expansion and remaster HD graphics!

Is this real? Is it sent to the e-mail on file or is it in our Playonline e-mail? Because I don't seem to have a form in my proper e-mail.
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By Draylo 2022-03-07 10:35:15  
Yeah its the first story on the front page of ffxiah, click the link and you log into your SE account to do the survey
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 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-07 10:48:53  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Using a literal second account to post when your main has made posts in the past screams socks.

Timeframe clearly has to play into this. Maybe more people know you under your current name and you want your forum name to represent that. Do I still have to post under Rairin, a forum account I made in 2007? Or Leviathan.Comeatmebro, a character I made around 2010?

Unless you're literally posting from multiple accounts in the same thread, I don't think it matters personally. Being anonymous is not an issue either, if an anonymous person is making meaningful posts then it shouldn't matter that they choose not to attach a character to their account. Something to be said about judging the content of the posts, not the person who's posting them, which seems to be a lost ideal here.
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By Mattelot 2022-03-07 11:07:55  
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Something to be said about judging the content of the posts, not the person who's posting them, which seems to be a lost ideal here.

It's a lost ideal in a lot of places.

On the WoW forums, if you post on a Classic character, people cannot click on you and view your armory. People relied on being able to click on people's armory as a way to harass them. They seem to think that what your character has or has accomplished is what determines if you beat them in a debate or not or as a way to deflect. "You've not beat XX on Heroic therefore, your points are invalid" even though they're not yet forgetting we didn't even start out with an armory, so a point was a point.

It's just a poor way to deflect altogether. I view it the same way as when someone calls someone a troll clearly out of context. Most of the time, it's a simple way to evade accountability.
 Bismarck.Firedemon
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-03-07 11:08:38  
Shiva.Thorny said: »
if an anonymous person is making meaningful posts then it shouldn't matter that they choose not to attach a character to their account. Something to be said about judging the content of the posts, not the person who's posting them

No, I totally get that. But when half of the posts are antagonistic and drivel, paired up with an alt account, it’s not far fetched to think it’s a *** account.
 Asura.Iamaman
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By Asura.Iamaman 2022-03-07 11:12:49  
Fenrir.Velner said: »
Draylo said: »
SE sending out opinion forms and asking what people want to say to the dev team. Tell them we want a new expansion and remaster HD graphics!

Is this real? Is it sent to the e-mail on file or is it in our Playonline e-mail? Because I don't seem to have a form in my proper e-mail.

It's real, it's on the front page of this site. You can click the link and it'll take you to the page to fill out the survey. I think they are more interested in people relaying their experiences over the last 20 years than they are looking for suggestions. I'd keep that in mind and at least somewhat cater to what they are looking for.

Didn't stop me from suggesting they provide other ways to get into Gaol than having a segment static though...
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By Mattelot 2022-03-07 11:16:06  
On the same token, antagonistic and drivel are subjective.

I'm not saying you're wrong as it's not far-fetched** but I see that term tossed around so incorrectly lately and it seems we're all too quick to make that assumption. If you disagree with someone that much, don't even reply to them. I completely ignore people that I feel are as you described unless they're clearly a forum troll, then I'll chew them up and spit them out.

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 Fenrir.Velner
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By Fenrir.Velner 2022-03-07 11:40:45  
Yea, it's clear straight away that the questionnaire is not a "suggestions box."
 Asura.Aeonova
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By Asura.Aeonova 2022-03-07 11:51:24  
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By SimonSes 2022-03-07 11:58:01  
Incoming Cornelia, but changed to bst/smn, with no aura and no jug pets and summoning light spirit from sub as only avatar :)
 Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2022-03-07 11:59:48  
Fenrir.Velner said: »
Yea, it's clear straight away that the questionnaire is not a "suggestions box."
I wouldn't expect nor want it to be.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-07 12:06:01  
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By Homsar 2022-03-07 12:57:47  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
o, I totally get that. But when half of the posts are antagonistic and drivel, paired up with an alt account, it’s not far fetched to think it’s a *** account.

As has been pointed out, "antagonistic" and "drivel" are subjective and typically are used interchangeably with "words I disagree with".

You may not like what I say, that doesn't make me a "*** account" or a "sock" though.
 Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2022-03-07 13:09:02  
Asura.Aeonova said: »

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 Bismarck.Firedemon
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-03-07 13:09:39  
Mattelot said: »
antagonistic and drivel are subjective

Homsar said: »
You may not like what I say, that doesn't make me a "*** account" or a "sock" though

Some quality contributions here.

gives SE regular massages using his uvula regardless of whatever shitty thing they do under the guise of FFXI

being a fan and fellating the shitty things SE does like you do time and time again

doesn't change the fact that you are gobbling up little nuggets of ***on a plate

pains the simps so much

 Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2022-03-07 13:14:33  
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By Mattelot 2022-03-07 13:17:32  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
gives SE regular massages using his uvula regardless of whatever shitty thing they do under the guise of FFXI

being a fan and fellating the shitty things SE does like you do time and time again

doesn't change the fact that you are gobbling up little nuggets of ***on a plate

pains the simps so much

So ignore it. Why is it getting your goat so badly?
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By Homsar 2022-03-07 13:21:56  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Some quality contributions here.

Homsar said: »
You may not like what I say, that doesn't make me a "*** account" or a "sock" though.
 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-10 09:53:31  
Has anyone manged to keep up with the deeds to have 1440 (1430 you won't be able to grow & harvest for at least one more day unless you pregrew in anticipation)

Next month finally see reobtainable rewards.
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By Guyford 2022-03-10 11:13:16  
I'm at 1430 but I usually wait a week or so before doing the gardening one cause its a chore. I'll post what happens if no one else has by then.
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By Homsar 2022-03-10 11:48:09  
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Next month finally see reobtainable rewards.

Are they cycling back through the old rewards?
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By waffle 2022-03-10 15:13:34  
I'm at 1430 and was going to ask about this. I was thinking that basically we have to claim anything we haven't claimed yet because we either choose to reset the prizes next month or we get nothing, right?
 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-10 15:24:21  
In whatever way they chose to "reset" yeah, I assume if you never picked up (item) from the first time through, you will lose access to it.
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By Sylph.Tigarion 2022-03-10 15:37:43  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Has anyone manged to keep up with the deeds to have 1440 (1430 you won't be able to grow & harvest for at least one more day unless you pregrew in anticipation)

Next month finally see reobtainable rewards.


Not going to reset, but I did notice a counter for total resets.
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