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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-11-17 14:43:20  
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I read this out loud to my cousin from Arkansas so that he could give a rebuttal. As soon as I decipher his incoherent mumbling I'll relay the response.

in the short version they think that we are a bunch of pampered pansies that wouldn't last fifteen minutes alone in the real world... and they are probably right...
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By Nausi 2017-11-17 15:04:29  
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I cannot believe the circumstances needed to not throw this guy overboard.
My irony meter overloaded and blew up a while ago but that's a good one.

Franken literally has red "*** handed" photographic evidence of him caught in the act.

Moore literally has a fake yearbook signature, and 40 year old unverifiable allegations.

You're irony meter is working just fine.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-11-17 15:32:24  
sexism was a lot funnier in the 90's, duh.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-11-17 17:00:23  
Well, it's not like it's hard to find two "experts" that look at the exact same thing and come to opposite conclusions, no matter what field they're in.

Confirmation bias is a big business.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-11-17 17:39:34  
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Franken literally has red "*** handed" photographic evidence of him caught in the act.

Moore literally has a fake yearbook signature, and 40 year old unverifiable allegations.

You're irony meter is working just fine.
The picture shows really crude humor that's made even more inappropriate given the current climate regarding harassment. Franken owned up to that and the kiss, apologized, and the woman who made the accusation accepted that by acknowledging it as a stupid mistake, which says a lot given her relation to Fox News. This doesn't excuse anything but it should set an example for how these kinds of accusations are handled by the accused (i.e., not going after the accuser).

There's no equivalence here to Moore's situation where the latest development was other people in the town coming out and saying he was known for chasing underage girls.
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By fonewear 2017-11-17 17:40:48  
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Nausi said: »
Franken literally has red "*** handed" photographic evidence of him caught in the act.

Moore literally has a fake yearbook signature, and 40 year old unverifiable allegations.

You're irony meter is working just fine.
The picture shows really crude humor that's made even more inappropriate given the current climate regarding harassment. Franken owned up to that and the kiss, apologized, and the woman who made the accusation accepted that by acknowledging it as a stupid mistake, which says a lot given her relation to Fox News. This doesn't excuse anything but it should set an example for how these kinds of accusations are handled by the accused (i.e., not going after the accuser).

There's no equivalence here to Moore's situation where the latest development was other people in the town coming out and saying he was known for chasing underage girls.

Cool story bro.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-11-17 17:40:54  


Bad day for blimpz
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By fonewear 2017-11-17 17:43:35  
Bad day for Baby Ruth:

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By Zerowone 2017-11-17 18:25:10  
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Nausi said: »
Franken literally has red "*** handed" photographic evidence of him caught in the act.

Moore literally has a fake yearbook signature, and 40 year old unverifiable allegations.

You're irony meter is working just fine.
The picture shows really crude humor that's made even more inappropriate given the current climate regarding harassment. Franken owned up to that and the kiss, apologized, and the woman who made the accusation accepted that by acknowledging it as a stupid mistake, which says a lot given her relation to Fox News. This doesn't excuse anything but it should set an example for how these kinds of accusations are handled by the accused (i.e., not going after the accuser).

There's no equivalence here to Moore's situation where the latest development was other people in the town coming out and saying he was known for chasing underage girls.

Cool story bro.

Here’s one:

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I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed. No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

Keep in mind, this was in regard to miss teen USA contestants.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-11-17 18:42:39  
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By fonewear 2017-11-17 18:44:57  
Daily Show stopped when Jon left.
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By Nausi 2017-11-17 19:37:49  
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Nausi said: »
Franken literally has red "*** handed" photographic evidence of him caught in the act.

Moore literally has a fake yearbook signature, and 40 year old unverifiable allegations.

You're irony meter is working just fine.
The picture shows really crude humor that's made even more inappropriate given the current climate regarding harassment. Franken owned up to that and the kiss, apologized, and the woman who made the accusation accepted that by acknowledging it as a stupid mistake, which says a lot given her relation to Fox News. This doesn't excuse anything but it should set an example for how these kinds of accusations are handled by the accused (i.e., not going after the accuser).

There's no equivalence here to Moore's situation where the latest development was other people in the town coming out and saying he was known for chasing underage girls.

You're correct there is no equivalence. One is still entirely based on allegations. The other has photographic evidence.

Let me give you a different persective Pleebo (not that you want it). People in washington are literally doing everything they can to keep this guy out and you eat up every *** turd they serve. You eat them up because you're drowning in your own bias. Why couldnt this all be a hit job? 1 month out from the election, 40 year old allegations, Gloria *** Allred? Cmon man, this is how liberals do business. Hillary ran the “bimbo eruption” on Bill’s campaIgn. They win by smearing their opponents and after 2016, its the only tactic they have left. The media follows suit for their enemies and covers for their own, which is exactly whats happening today with Franken.

Trump had like 10 of these allegations against him going into the general election, guess what happened to them after he was elected, they all just went away, because they were all *** nothing.

All smoke, no fire. Just like “muh Russia”!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-11-17 20:02:18  
So it's easier to maintain that multiple women of varying political backgrounds were compromised by the "establishment" to provide a coherent but false narrative for no personal gain than denounce support for a grown man who, at the least, inappropriately dated teenagers? Ok.
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By Viciouss 2017-11-17 20:19:18  
None of the women that Trump sexually assaulted "went away", those lawsuits are still going on because the women won't settle and the judge isn't dismissing them like Trump wants. So much for that fake point from nausi.
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By Zerowone 2017-11-17 20:21:42  
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Trump had like 10 of these allegations against him going into the general election, guess what happened to them after he was elected, they all just went away, because they were all *** nothing.

All smoke, no fire. Just like “muh Russia”!

Let’s take a look at today’s headlines:

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360975-cbss-major-garrett-why-hasnt-trump-sued-his-sexual-misconduct-accusers#


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/11/17/grab-em-pussy-president-slammed-grand-hypocrisy-trump-goes-after-franken

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/360858-gretchen-carlson-rips-trump-for-attacking-franken-what-about

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moores-wife-trump-owes-us-a-thank-you-youre-not-hearing-too-much-about-russia/article/2641053

Oh yeah Russia. Thanks Roy Moore’s Wife:

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-emails-sergei-millian-dossier-papadopoulous-russia-2017-11

https://apnews.com/73a06aa400b3493fa63eaa90c78ffee0/Moscow-meeting-in-June-2017-under-scrutiny-in-Trump-probe

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rob-goldstone-ready-come-u-s-talk-mueller-n821826

https://mobile.nytimes.com/redirect?to-mobile=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2F17%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-russia-kushner.html%3Freferer%3D

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/george-papadopoulos-trump-campaign-russia

http://www.newsweek.com/papadopoulos-says-trump-authorized-him-meet-foreign-leaders-714644


There is a whole lot “Moore”. I know you and most others won’t read them due to conformation bias and fidelity to the narrative you have signed up for. But it doesn’t change the fact that they haven’t and aren’t going away.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-11-17 21:24:01  
So many articles with the words "Trump" and "Russia" put together. Zero conclusive evidence of any direct ties between the two. How's that for a manufactured narrative?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-11-17 21:37:08  
"But Clinton": cartoon version
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By Zerowone 2017-11-17 21:57:51  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So many articles with the words "Trump" and "Russia" put together. Zero conclusive evidence of any direct ties between the two. How's that for a manufactured narrative?

Don’t forget the volume of articles with “Trump” and “17 accussers of sexual harassment and rape”.

You might want to stop ignoring the elephant in the room. There’s plenty of conclusive evidence.
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-11-17 22:36:24  
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
I honestly believe

well from one northerner to another it's probably too late to change your yankee doodle dandy bias anyways... /shrug

I'm sure there are some good people in arkansas....

They can't possibly all be ignorant, beer guzzling, gun clinging, bible thumping, cousin kissing, sister marrying, slack jawed, beady eyed, confederate flag waving, nascar watching, the south will rise again shouting, monster truck crashing, dukes of hazard watching, iron boy overall wearing, third grade quitting, tobacco spitting, teeth missing, bar room brawling, country western singing, trailer park dwelling, line dancing, moonshine sipping, coon huntin, boot scoot boogieing, drunk driving, banjo strumming, confederate flag waving, inflated inner-tube tied to a cooler floating down an alligator infested swap creek river yokels...

but that's what we think of them... and they couldn't care any less than they already do about what we think of them.

and I'm certain that their rebuttal to my assessment of them would be as equally harsh and condescending...had any of them bothered to learn how to read...or type...

I read this out loud to my cousin from Arkansas so that he could give a rebuttal. As soon as I decipher his incoherent mumbling I'll relay the response.
No humor in responding to this, but when I was in nuke school in the USN, there was this woman from Arkansas. She wasn't exactly easy on the eyes, but she was near the top of the class grade wise, liked death metal, and could beat my *** in Judo.

So throw your assumptions to the way side!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-11-17 23:30:43  
So...she was plug ugly...and she kicked your ***...and this goes against my assuptions how exactly?

this might by the scotch talking but that sure sounds like arkasas to me....

you do realize that it isn't necessary for them to do everything on the list all at the same time right?

I'm beginning to suspect we know the someone who was nearer to the bottom of the class... >.>
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By Asura.Vyre 2017-11-18 03:56:46  
That's right Nik, you hit the nail on the head. Now get back to making quality comedy.
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By Nausi 2017-11-18 07:23:06  
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So it's easier to maintain that multiple women of varying political backgrounds were compromised by the "establishment" to provide a coherent but false narrative for no personal gain than denounce support for a grown man who, at the least, inappropriately dated teenagers? Ok.

Let me put it another way.

The blind charge of “racist!” Has entirely lost its potency for the left. They’ve overused it and corrupted it to the point it no longer matters. The new blind charge is “rapist!”
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By Nausi 2017-11-18 07:25:13  
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So many articles with the words "Trump" and "Russia" put together. Zero conclusive evidence of any direct ties between the two. How's that for a manufactured narrative?

They’re stuck in the media bubble.
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By Zerowone 2017-11-18 07:56:08  
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and could beat my *** in Judo.

Wait what?!

Was this Randori or actual Shiai?
We’re you like -66kg and she was 78kg+?

Other News:

http://www.normantranscript.com/news/former-state-seismologist-testifies-officials-coerced-him-to-alter-research/article_d8383864-cb20-11e7-8206-2bc32ae1169a.html

Not surprised given that the Petroleum Industry funds education in Oklahoma.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-11-18 08:36:08  
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"But Clinton": cartoon version

"Deflection": Pleebo version
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By fonewear 2017-11-18 08:43:36  
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Nausi said: »

Trump had like 10 of these allegations against him going into the general election, guess what happened to them after he was elected, they all just went away, because they were all *** nothing.

All smoke, no fire. Just like “muh Russia”!

Let’s take a look at today’s headlines:

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360975-cbss-major-garrett-why-hasnt-trump-sued-his-sexual-misconduct-accusers#


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/11/17/grab-em-pussy-president-slammed-grand-hypocrisy-trump-goes-after-franken

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/360858-gretchen-carlson-rips-trump-for-attacking-franken-what-about

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moores-wife-trump-owes-us-a-thank-you-youre-not-hearing-too-much-about-russia/article/2641053

Oh yeah Russia. Thanks Roy Moore’s Wife:

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-emails-sergei-millian-dossier-papadopoulous-russia-2017-11

https://apnews.com/73a06aa400b3493fa63eaa90c78ffee0/Moscow-meeting-in-June-2017-under-scrutiny-in-Trump-probe

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rob-goldstone-ready-come-u-s-talk-mueller-n821826

https://mobile.nytimes.com/redirect?to-mobile=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2F17%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-russia-kushner.html%3Freferer%3D

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/george-papadopoulos-trump-campaign-russia

http://www.newsweek.com/papadopoulos-says-trump-authorized-him-meet-foreign-leaders-714644


There is a whole lot “Moore”. I know you and most others won’t read them due to conformation bias and fidelity to the narrative you have signed up for. But it doesn’t change the fact that they haven’t and aren’t going away.

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-11-18 08:54:26  
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That's right Nik, you hit the nail on the head. Now get back to making quality comedy.

No. Wake me up when nausi and pleebo are done defending their party's chester the molesters... It's making me want to puke.

I thought this was P&R not rape fethish erp.
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