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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-03 12:27:52  
Zerowone said: »
They got a drug to take care of that vomiting.

weed is great for nausea
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-03 12:29:36  
jinx Josi you owe me a cherry coke
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-03 12:32:03  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
-can get it now with zero THC and no psychoactive properties

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By Ramyrez 2017-10-03 12:55:51  
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
-can get it now with zero THC and no psychoactive properties


Second.
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 13:04:27  
I'll just stick to alcohol. I don't need any more mind altering drugs. I can't tell what is real and what is not real as it is !
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By Ramyrez 2017-10-03 13:06:23  
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I'll just stick to alcohol. I don't need any more mind altering drugs. I can't tell what is real and what is not real as it is !

If recreational THC was legal I would probably use it more than alcohol.

Fewer calories, especially given that I get munchy drinking too, so at least the booze itself would be out of the equation.

Reserve my drinking for truly enjoying fine whiskey and beer.
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 13:07:47  
I don't know pot heads annoying me. People are dumb enough as it is. We don't need anymore dumb people.
 
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 13:20:37  
Yea I'm not taking medical advice from some guy on the internet.
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By Ramyrez 2017-10-03 13:21:35  
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I don't know pot heads annoying me. People are dumb enough as it is. We don't need anymore dumb people.

There are more than enough idiot alcoholics out there to go around.

People as a whole are stupid regardless of their escapist activity and/or substance of choice.
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By Zerowone 2017-10-03 13:23:35  
Josiahkf PhD :Canadian Internet Doctor.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-03 13:26:29  
fonewear said: »
Yea I'm not taking medical advice from some guy on the internet.

take a spoonful of maple syrup once a day!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-03 14:30:19  
As long as Josi isn't running for Price's job, he can armchair doctor all he wants here.
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By Ramyrez 2017-10-03 14:57:02  
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As long as Josi isn't running for Price's job,

I don't think Josi's got the goods to challenge as starting goaltender for the Habs.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-03 15:01:19  
Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
As long as Josi isn't running for Price's job,

I don't think Josi's got the goods to challenge as starting goaltender for the Habs.
Wrong Price

Perks included using government money to charter private jets across the country, even within driving distance from point A to point B.
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 15:05:12  
Hearing reporters the guy recorded the entire shooting.
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 15:06:12  
I have a feeling there is a lot more to this story than some disgruntled gambler. This seems like the guy knew what he was doing. Put a lot of planning. Could have had help from other people.
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By fonewear 2017-10-03 15:06:58  
There are saying he had fertilizer bombs and all sorts of stuff.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-10-03 16:54:40  
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I have a feeling there is a lot more to this story than some disgruntled gambler. This seems like the guy knew what he was doing. Put a lot of planning. Could have had help from other people.

The guy was loaded. He owned several planes and houses.
His hotel room had anywhere between 10-20 firearms. Some being on the high end like Daniel Defense DDM4 (MSRP $1850) with some quality optics.

Also I counted about 15-16 Surefire 100 round magazines (MSRP $170 each.) a small fortune in itself.

Also he rented 2 rooms, one of which was a really huge suite, he also had multiple cameras set up both in the room and in the hallway.

To move that many long guns in un-noticed it would of taken days. This wasn't just a spur of the moment type thing. He had time to calm down and rethink what he was doing. He wanted to do this.

The hotel was also a gun/weapon free zone so he had to be discreet.

No amount of laws would of stopped this. Dozens were broken in the process. Laws mean nothing to a man with money and a death wish. That is what scares people. Criminally and Mentally he had no prior history.

Some people have demons inside of them that are more terrifying that any creature of fiction.

If the fertilizer bomb thing is true, we are lucky he didn't load up one of his private planes with explosives.

I feel so terrible that so many people were injured and killed. It was a very senseless act.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-04 02:35:56  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
No amount of laws would of stopped this.

Since no one else has posted in 9+ hours I'll be the first to disagree with you here.

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His hotel room had anywhere between 10-20 firearms. Some being on the high end like Daniel Defense DDM4 (MSRP $1850) with some quality optics.

Also I counted about 15-16 Surefire 100 round magazines (MSRP $170 each.) a small fortune in itself.

He had an arsenal. There's no reason a single private citizen should possess that much firepower. And there should be laws against bumpstocks and other technology that enables these guns to simulate fully automatic weapons.

I agree with the sentiment of your post, but to say this couldn't have been prevented? Mass shootings like this don't happen on the scale or regularity in other developed countries. What are we doing wrong?
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By Ruaumoko 2017-10-04 04:27:01  
"I need X amount of guns in case I need to rise up against the government" is such a flawed argument.

Have you seen what the US government already has at it's disposal for riot control and/or law enforcement? They would not look out of place in a war zone, do people think that some guys with rifles are going to stand a chance against a government and all the resources it has? Didn't think so.

I have more faith in hackivists and black hats bringing down governments than I do a bunch of guys with guns.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-04 05:43:44  
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
No amount of laws would of stopped this.

Since no one else has posted in 9+ hours I'll be the first to disagree with you here.
Let me ask you this then: What sort of laws would a criminal follow?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-04 05:48:11  
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Mass shootings like this don't happen on the scale or regularity in other developed countries. What are we doing wrong?
I hate to correct you...what am I talking about, I love correcting you all the time!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-04 05:51:38  
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"I need X amount of guns in case I need to rise up against the government" is such a flawed argument.

Have you seen what the US government already has at it's disposal for riot control and/or law enforcement? They would not look out of place in a war zone, do people think that some guys with rifles are going to stand a chance against a government and all the resources it has? Didn't think so.

I have more faith in hackivists and black hats bringing down governments than I do a bunch of guys with guns.
Look, I agree with you about that. There is no real reason to own 500+ guns or the such.

But then again, I also agree with the 2nd Amendment. Because if we start limiting the number of guns/ammo a person may or may not hold, that's just the start of limiting their freedom to own a gun in the first place. We all know that government isn't one to stop at reason, especially when you have the extremists parties out there that believe in the "all or nothing, but always all in their ideology" method (liberalism). Those people will limit people's freedoms in a drop of a hat.
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By fonewear 2017-10-04 07:14:40  
If the Democrats had there way they would ban water pistols. That is how far they would take this.
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By fonewear 2017-10-04 07:16:10  
They don't really care about the people that died. They just hate guns mostly. Like if we got rid of guns violence would end magically.
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By fonewear 2017-10-04 07:29:50  
Donny please !
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