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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-07-20 15:37:33  
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To those on the left, when you get pissed at President Trump, go find a mirror and see who's to blame. Every time you bullied or intimidated someone with political correctness, it pushed them towards this situation.
So you admit that people voted Trump out of spite, and not an actual ideology. I suppose it makes sense, since Trump also has some of the thinnest skin I've ever witnessed.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-20 15:40:43  
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Think about it, how many people have you ever had business dealings with in your profession? If one of those entities came under investigation and your name came up as a service provider, they would be within their rights to look into you, even if you had done absolutely nothing wrong, just to be sure.
With the number clients I have and who they are, I could personally be swept up in the "Russian investigation" just by the 3rd-4th degree "Kevin Bacon" scenario.

I mean, I have dealt with a lot of land owners all over the country. In this fishing expedition, I might be the one who gets hooked.

Oh please, you're not fooling anyone with that fake American accent, King. Or should I call you... Boris?!?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 15:45:43  
I don't know why Trump is still throwing such a temper tantrum over Sessions' recusal, when everyone in Congress told him he was gonna recuse, Comey knew he was gonna recuse, nobody was surprised (except for Trump) when it happened, and nobody (other than Trump) cares that he did. Of course its just like Flynn, everyone told him not to hire Flynn, and look what happened, he is prolly facing jailtime. But I guess Trump is always going to whine about something.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 15:47:00  
That said if Sessions wants to resign go ahead, he is already doing a terrible job.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-20 15:57:38  
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That said if Sessions wants to resign go ahead, he is already doing a terrible job.

Well, he's doing better than his predecessor, but that isn't saying much....
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-07-20 15:59:27  
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Asura.Saevel said: »
To those on the left, when you get pissed at President Trump, go find a mirror and see who's to blame. Every time you bullied or intimidated someone with political correctness, it pushed them towards this situation.
So you admit that people voted Trump out of spite, and not an actual ideology. I suppose it makes sense, since Trump also has some of the thinnest skin I've ever witnessed.

Not spite, pure exhaustion from politically correct agree with me or be bullied as a heretic deplorable.

Trump is an ***, and most importantly he's a vocal *** who isn't afraid to say what he wants and doesn't let people control his speech or thought. Right now in the USA the left is trying to win by controlling people's speech and thought, and that's really pissing people off.

The failure of both parties in the last few decades has resulted in the election of Trump. Until that gets through your skull anything you do is only going to fuel his popularity.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-07-20 16:09:37  
Asura.Saevel said: »
Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
To those on the left, when you get pissed at President Trump, go find a mirror and see who's to blame. Every time you bullied or intimidated someone with political correctness, it pushed them towards this situation.
So you admit that people voted Trump out of spite, and not an actual ideology. I suppose it makes sense, since Trump also has some of the thinnest skin I've ever witnessed.

Not spite, pure exhaustion from politically correct agree with me or be bullied as a heretic deplorable.

Trump is an ***, and most importantly he's a vocal *** who isn't afraid to say what he wants and doesn't let people control his speech or thought. Right now in the USA the left is trying to win by controlling people's speech and thought, and that's really pissing people off.

The failure of both parties in the last few decades has resulted in the election of Trump. Until that gets through your skull anything you do is only going to fuel his popularity.
Person A: Those spear-chuckers should go back to Africa.
Person B: Shut up racist.
Person A: Wah! Quit calling me names!

It goes both ways. Look at merry christmas vs. happy holidays. When the left speaks their mind in regards to what people say, the right themselves are awfully quick to be offended.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-20 16:14:29  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Think about it, how many people have you ever had business dealings with in your profession? If one of those entities came under investigation and your name came up as a service provider, they would be within their rights to look into you, even if you had done absolutely nothing wrong, just to be sure.
With the number clients I have and who they are, I could personally be swept up in the "Russian investigation" just by the 3rd-4th degree "Kevin Bacon" scenario.

I mean, I have dealt with a lot of land owners all over the country. In this fishing expedition, I might be the one who gets hooked.

Oh please, you're not fooling anyone with that fake American accent, King. Or should I call you... Boris?!?
It's Victor! Get it right!
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By Odin.Slore 2017-07-20 16:19:47  
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Asura.Saevel said: »
To those on the left, when you get pissed at President Trump, go find a mirror and see who's to blame. Every time you bullied or intimidated someone with political correctness, it pushed them towards this situation.
So you admit that people voted Trump out of spite, and not an actual ideology. I suppose it makes sense, since Trump also has some of the thinnest skin I've ever witnessed.

Like women voting for hillary just because shes a woman?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 16:35:18  
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Think about it, how many people have you ever had business dealings with in your profession? If one of those entities came under investigation and your name came up as a service provider, they would be within their rights to look into you, even if you had done absolutely nothing wrong, just to be sure.
With the number clients I have and who they are, I could personally be swept up in the "Russian investigation" just by the 3rd-4th degree "Kevin Bacon" scenario.

I mean, I have dealt with a lot of land owners all over the country. In this fishing expedition, I might be the one who gets hooked.

Oh please, you're not fooling anyone with that fake American accent, King. Or should I call you... Boris?!?
It's Victor! Get it right!

No no, its pronounced EE-gor.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-07-20 16:51:29  
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Like women voting for hillary just because shes a woman?
I voted for Hillary because she wasn't Trump. I would rather have voted for Bernie, but as several here have said you run with what you get.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2017-07-20 16:59:53  
It's amazing to me that a day after being diagnosed with brain cancer all John McCain can think about doing still is fueling civil war in Syria.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-20 17:07:38  
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Person A: Those spear-chuckers should go back to Africa.
Person B: Shut up racist.
Person A: Wah! Quit calling me names!

?

If people were going around calling black people spear-chuckers, I would be totally on board. Unfortunately for your analogy, such blatant racism is so rare that it is completely out of sync with reality. These kinda of interactions were far more common:

Person A: I'm not a fan of Obama's policies.
Person B: Shut up racist.

Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
It goes both ways. Look at merry christmas vs. happy holidays. When the left speaks their mind in regards to what people say, the right themselves are awfully quick to be offended.

The only people who are in the wrong in this situation are those who get mad at one statement or the other and/or try to ban it. Seriously, who the frick cares.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-07-20 17:21:37  
As for the investigation, one of the primary steps in any investigation is follow the money. It has been known for a long time that almost all of Trump's funding comes from Russia.

What does this mean? Who knows? But Mueller kinda has to find out if it does mean anything.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-20 18:40:02  
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As for the investigation, one of the primary steps in any investigation is follow the money. It has been known for a long time that almost all of Trump's funding comes from Russia.

What does this mean? Who knows? But Mueller kinda has to find out if it does mean anything.

It's probably related to the Prevezon case.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-20 19:38:13  
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Think about it, how many people have you ever had business dealings with in your profession? If one of those entities came under investigation and your name came up as a service provider, they would be within their rights to look into you, even if you had done absolutely nothing wrong, just to be sure.
With the number clients I have and who they are, I could personally be swept up in the "Russian investigation" just by the 3rd-4th degree "Kevin Bacon" scenario.

I mean, I have dealt with a lot of land owners all over the country. In this fishing expedition, I might be the one who gets hooked.

Oh please, you're not fooling anyone with that fake American accent, King. Or should I call you... Boris?!?
It's Victor! Get it right!

No no, its pronounced EE-gor.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-20 19:39:27  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
As for the investigation, one of the primary steps in any investigation is follow the money. It has been known for a long time that almost all of Trump's funding comes from Russia.

What does this mean? Who knows? But Mueller kinda has to find out if it does mean anything.
Should it be followed to your front porch?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 19:42:45  
Yep I totally got that movie memory mixed up in my head.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-07-20 20:39:04  
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Person A: I'm not a fan of Obama's policies.
Person B: Shut up racist.

This,

This so damn much

The default position of all leftists has been to shame and bully anyone who disagree's with them.

You didn't like Hillary, your a misogynist women beater. You want controlled immigration, your a racist deplorable uneducated hill billy. You want to properly screen refugees from war zones centered on extreme religious ideology, your a islamophobic neck beard facist natzi who should be beat in the street.

I'm not even exaggerating, leftists dressed in black, are actually beating people in the streets for disagreeing with them.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 20:44:00  
That victim card never gets old.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-20 21:04:07  
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That victim card never gets old.
It's your biggest tool in the tool box, right?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 21:06:29  
It seems to be for Saevel and that pathetic superiority complex he has.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-07-20 21:46:50  
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If people were going around calling black people spear-chuckers, I would be totally on board. Unfortunately for your analogy, such blatant racism is so rare that it is completely out of sync with reality. These kinda of interactions were far more common:

Person A: I'm not a fan of Obama's policies.
Person B: Shut up racist.
We obviously had different experiences in the real world. I think I only ever had a discussion with one person who was able to articulate why they hated Obama. Saying they disliked his policies on X, Y, and Z is great and leads to further dialogue. Unfortunately, the vast majority of interactions were of people who hated him because he was a foreign born Kenyan Muslim.

Working at one of the only theatres in the area that would show D'souza's movies, these were extremely common opening weekend. Don't understand why people decide to bring up heated political arguments to an employee, whose hands are tied from responding honestly.

Of course, when Farenheit 9/11 came out, we had our share of crazies from the left too. Those were filled with paranoid delusions that the only reason we had security was that Bush ordered theatres to try and intimidate people into not watching the movie.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-07-20 22:26:33  
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I'm not even exaggerating, leftists dressed in black, are actually beating people in the streets for disagreeing with them.
These posts are always good for a laugh at least.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2017-07-20 22:40:30  
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I'm not even exaggerating, leftists dressed in black, are actually beating people in the streets for disagreeing with them.
These posts are always good for a laugh at least.

Aww yes, the part again where Vic and Pleeb lie and pretend it doesn't happen on a regular basis. Why defend something so clearly terrible?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-20 22:42:29  
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Asura.Saevel said: »
I'm not even exaggerating, leftists dressed in black, are actually beating people in the streets for disagreeing with them.
These posts are always good for a laugh at least.

Thats all saevel, nausi, and aman are good for, everyday.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2017-07-20 22:43:49  
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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I'm not even exaggerating, leftists dressed in black, are actually beating people in the streets for disagreeing with them.
These posts are always good for a laugh at least.

Thats all saevel, nausi, and aman are good for, everyday.

Yeah, you're productive.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-07-20 23:16:08  
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We obviously had different experiences in the real world.

Because you selectively forget all the times you called bullied and othered people for having different political views then you.

I thought Obama was mediocre, as a President he didn't have the experience or the power base to do anything without his parties express approval. His entire first term was his struggling to actually be the President when his only leadership experience was as a community organizer. Eventually he caved and just do whatever his party told him to do in exchange for their political support. If Obama had waited until he had another eight to sixteen years under his belt, then I think he would of made a great President.

I know your memory is that of a goldfish, I was one of the ones supporting Obama after his election and telling the idiots here that he wasn't born in Kenya and has the exact same birth certificate as I do. Also that because of his mothers US citizenship he was also a natural born US citizen regardless of where he drew his first breath.

But hey I'm a deplorable islamophobic neck beard racist natzi that you should go punch, cause your so tolerant of diversity.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-07-21 04:38:00  
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We obviously had different experiences in the real world.

Because you selectively forget all the times you called bullied and othered people for having different political views then you.

I thought Obama was mediocre, as a President he didn't have the experience or the power base to do anything without his parties express approval. His entire first term was his struggling to actually be the President when his only leadership experience was as a community organizer. Eventually he caved and just do whatever his party told him to do in exchange for their political support. If Obama had waited until he had another eight to sixteen years under his belt, then I think he would of made a great President.

I know your memory is that of a goldfish, I was one of the ones supporting Obama after his election and telling the idiots here that he wasn't born in Kenya and has the exact same birth certificate as I do. Also that because of his mothers US citizenship he was also a natural born US citizen regardless of where he drew his first breath.

But hey I'm a deplorable islamophobic neck beard racist natzi that you should go punch, cause your so tolerant of diversity.
So did you vote for Trump? Because if you had an issue with Obama's lack of experience, Trump had even less.
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 07:00:49  
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Mueller is so desperate to find something, he is looking at legal transactions Trump had with private Russian citizens in order to tie Russia and Trump together.

All of these transactions occurred well before Trump even announced that he was running for president, much less actually winning the nomination.

It's sad that it's so obvious that Trump and Russia didn't collude with one another, that Mueller has to go to Alex Jones-level conspiracy theory to investigate Trump.

It's a bit of a stretch and is starting to look like another witch hunt to find *something* to use against him. It might just be Mueller doing due diligence to ensure those financial transactions didn't have anything to do with the 2016 election, which they couldn't of considering the timing. I'm willing to wait and see, Mueller is kind of a legend among legal circles and has worked for both parties in a non-partisan way.
These are "anon" leaks to the liberal media.

A) are they true?
B) how can anyone make the case his team is impartial if they are illegally leaking things to the press?

Well several members of his team are known big Hillary supporters and Washington DC is a hyper political place, it would be impossible to find a truly impartial group. Again I don't want to rush to conclusions based on another "Anonymous" leak that might contain a nugget of truth wrapped in ***.

Perfectly understandable explanation is that investigating the Pro-Trump Russian connections leads to a Russian Oligarch that might have ties to the Russian Government. That same Oligarch might of bought or sold property with Trump or entered into some other business transaction or partnership with a Trump owned entity. These things happen all the time, Trump owns companies with financial connections all over the world and Russia is the kind of place where a small number of super wealthy Oligarchs own everything and have connections to corrupt government officials. The FBI team could be just going through those transactions to ensure they are legitimate and that there was no direct connection between candidate Trump and the 2016 election.

The Dems are already out in the middle of no-where land but it's important for any investigation team to turn over every rock if for no other reason then to say they did look and found nothing. If they didn't then the Dems would cry and scream and call foul play.

Now the line that would be crossed is if they did a general open investigation on all Trump related finances without any connection to Russia with the purpose of finding something to charge him with. That is not only out of bounds of the investigation but also unconstitutional. I don't think the guy who was responsible for the Enron investigation is going to be that dumb.
Dems need a vehicle to drip out information on Trump. There nothing to this investigation except anon leaks to the media that may or maynot be true. Thats the purpose it serves.

The average person commits 3 cellonies a day. Someone connected to trump has dont something wrong at some point. Thats going to be the end result of the investigation. Will it be as bad as trafficking in top secret information? Nope, but you bet your *** it'll be made out to be.
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