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 Asura.Kingnobody
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 11:54:31  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Most of this would need a full case by case analysis, but to resume. Sometimes medias source are wrong, sometimes they poorly (with or without the intent to mislead people) and sometimes they make ***up, but that one is hard to prove because they could just say their source were wrong.

Right wing medias have been riding on things like birthism, benghazi or email scandals forever which were just fake outrage in the end, I'm totally fine with investigating those things, but they have been acting about those stories the same way the left wing medias are doing with anything related to Trump.
Just because you dismiss it doesn't mean it's fake outrage.

Sure, people on the left going bonkers about Trump-Russia collusion without proof is practically the same thing. The only key difference is that there was evidence of wrongdoing being destroyed (remember those ~30k missing emails of Clinton's?) along with the narrative being pushed by the Obama Admin for days after the attack that this was a spontaneous incident over a YT video (or did you forget that too?).

At least with the Trump accusation that Obama wiretapped his office, there's evidence that signify that it could have happened. NYTs even reported such cases, and Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 11:59:56  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Just because you dismiss it doesn't mean it's fake outrage.

See? Right or Left, the exact same thing is repeating itself.
If that's your entire point, then we agree.

But I'm saying that the level of absolute outrage being portrayed by the left today is far greater than the right did on Obama's term. And we aren't even finished with the second month yet!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-03-15 12:19:05  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 12:30:37  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
Wait, are you saying that a wiretap that recorded Flynn talking to the Russian Ambassador the very same day that Obama placed sanctions on Russia that was reported by Washington Post never happened?

Or that it's all fabricated now that Trump stated that Obama Admin allegedly spied on him during the campaign?

It could all be a dream though. Let me ask you this, what color is the unicorn in the background?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 12:32:37  
Also: #4Vic

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Most Americans approve of the job Donald Trump is doing as president, according to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll. Of the Americans surveyed, 52 percent approved of Trump’s job performance, a 3 percent boost since Inauguration Day, while 43 percent do not approve of the president’s performance.

More registered voters trust congressional Republicans over Democrats to handle the economy, jobs, healthcare, immigration, and energy. An equal number of respondents trusted Democrats and Republicans to handle education.

The only issue voters trusted Democrats over Republicans was the environment. Forty-six percent of registered voters said they trusted Democrats, while only 30 percent said they trusted Republicans.

A majority of voters (55 percent) said they wanted Obamacare to be repealed in part or completely, while only 13 percent wanted to keep it in place.

Time to dismiss another poll cause it doesn't fit Vic's fantasy narrative.
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By Zerowone 2017-03-15 12:37:42  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-15 12:56:29  
Also...

Flynn became a person of interest for the DoJ after he attended the RT Gala dinner and was seen sitting with Vladimir Putin, in 2015.

Attending dinners with foreign heads of state well catch the eye and interest of our intelligence agencies. Especially when you're a retired Lt. General who heads a consulting firm that provides logistics to international businesses and governments, who also liked to frequently appear on a Pro-Russian (state owned) television network.

Which means he was being investigated and watched for reasons that were not politically motivated/associated to the Trump campaign.
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 12:58:51  
You guys take this ***too seriously lighten up a bit ! Have a White Russian !
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By Zerowone 2017-03-15 13:04:04  
Don't you want to talk about Roger Stone, foney?

Plenty of jokes to be had with people who are in denial over the fact that the contract between a Trump advisor and a Russian hacker.

What's even better is his claim that I didn't know the hacker was a Russian asset but I as a Trump campaign advisor totally did pay someone to hack the DNC and release their emails. That's not a crime, right?
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-03-15 13:07:03  
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Which is exactly what I said word for word .... Thats the normal voting demographic.

That's the exact opposite....

They don't have higher education...
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:07:33  
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Don't you want to talk about Roger Stone, foney?

Plenty of jokes to be had with people who are in denial over the fact that the contract between a Trump advisor and a Russian hacker.

What's even better is his claim that I didn't know the hacker was a Russian asset but I as a Trump campaign advisor totally did pay someone to hack the DNC and release their emails. That's not a crime, right?

No I don't I want to talk about this:

I don't really care about Russian hackers...I do like these hackers:

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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:09:35  
What if the CIA made it look like the election was hacked by Russian when in fact the CIA did all this...
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:11:12  
It was either the CIA or Angelina Jolie that hacked the election there I said it !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-15 13:22:03  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
So remember when I said his supporters don't take him "literally"? This is a prime example.

"Wiretapped" doesn't necessarily mean something specific.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 13:23:07  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
Wait, are you saying that a wiretap that recorded Flynn talking to the Russian Ambassador the very same day that Obama placed sanctions on Russia that was reported by Washington Post never happened?

Or that it's all fabricated now that Trump stated that Obama Admin allegedly spied on him during the campaign?

He is saying you are lying about Flynn being wiretapped for "political purposes." Which is true, you are lying about that, but so is Trump so its ok right?
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By Zerowone 2017-03-15 13:23:38  
fonewear said: »
What if the CIA made it look like the election was hacked by Russian when in fact the CIA did all this...

What if the CIA made this post look like it was written by Zerowone when it was in fact a Russian hack?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-15 13:25:45  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
So remember when I said his supporters don't take him "literally"? This is a prime example.

"Wiretapped" doesn't necessarily mean something specific.

Gotta love quotations.

-"You're an '***'".

-"Hey!"

-"What? I used "quotations".
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-03-15 13:27:53  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
So remember when I said his supporters don't take him "literally"? This is a prime example.

"Wiretapped" doesn't necessarily mean something specific.
"wat"
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:27:55  
Taking a Trump tweet seriously...seriously ?
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:28:42  
The man spend most of his life firing D list celebrities and now all the sudden you take him serious !
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:32:30  
Josiahkf said: »
"president"

That's just a title. It has no meaning !
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:32:55  
It's not like he is the Prime Minister now that is important...
 
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-03-15 13:35:42  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Flynn is a perfect example of a Trump official being wiretapped for political purposes.
Rails against media lies.
Has no problem spreading his own.
So remember when I said his supporters don't take him "literally"? This is a prime example.

"Wiretapped" doesn't necessarily mean something specific.
It's not that his supporters don't take him literally... it's that people like you will just lap up whatever excuse he gives for lashing out because he's pissed off about something... I'd be more inclined to take you seriously if you applied any level of scrutiny to what he's done other then yes please trump shove your *** further down my throat...

As it stands trump won't release any information he has that supposedly proves any kind of surveillance took place... the son is dragging their feet looking for extensions in what seems like a bid for time in an attempt to frame this way so trump doesn't come off looking so bad... they have this information at their fingertips yet they won't share any of it but they sure will stoke the flames...

Saying not to take him literally is just giving him a free pass to say whatever the hell he wants to without consequence... unfortunately for him his words weigh heavily when spoken allowed due to his position... he needs to stop throwing tantrums every time someone pisses him off and then have everyone else walk everything back for him so he can save face....

I truly hope trump finds some kind of success as president and that it proves beneficial to America because regardless of the d or r after the name I want what's best for the nation regardless of who gets us there... I was hopeful at first but trump is just acting like a child for all his smarts or previous success... I don't see how that's going to take us into a brighter future...

And man... for all republicans might like to claim that they're better than democrats they sure like to show how they're just as shitty...
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:37:31  
Don't worry about it Oprah is going to be President and she will all get us free books and Jenny Craig !
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:47:15  
You guys are forgetting first and foremost that Trump is a showman and he is putting on a show. He just happens to be the President also.
 
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By fonewear 2017-03-15 13:57:50  
Yea all three conservatives on this website are detrimental...okay
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