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 Bismarck.Kuroganashi
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-17 07:43:18  
Please Post your Weapon Skill sets

I am using this but not the best I know.

Kamu:
ItemSet 338527

Ku:
ItemSet 338526

Ten:
ItemSet 347740

Hi:
ItemSet 337230

Shun:
ItemSet 337231

Please comment if any improvements or Suggestions :)
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-17 13:41:59  
I will give you none (HQ abj) and things you can solo for changes. Obviously the main guide ws are alreayd posted so you probably understand auged herc is BiS for basically all.

Ten:
pretov -> apate or ifrits(+1)
fotia- carro neck
fotia - grunfeld
head - lilthu (herc better depending augs)
body/legs/feet - Herc wsd aug (aim for 10 str or dex 4 wsd min)

Shun:
ammo - seething+1 if not att/acc capped already
ring - (ramuh+1 x2)
herc augs (aim for 15 dex, 25+ att/acc and TA) taupe stones.

HI :
lots of upgrades but quickies are..
garuda - eponas
herc crit dmg 5 augs


I will post my sets in a bit :D
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-17 13:57:08  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
I will give you none (HQ abj) and things you can solo for changes. Obviously the main guide ws are alreayd posted so you probably understand auged herc is BiS for basically all.

Ten:
pretov -> apate or ifrits(+1)
fotia- carro neck
fotia - grunfeld
head - lilthu (herc better depending augs)
body/legs/feet - Herc wsd aug (aim for 10 str or dex 4 wsd min)

Shun:
ammo - seething+1 if not att/acc capped already
ring - (ramuh+1 x2)
herc augs (aim for 15 dex, 25+ att/acc and TA) taupe stones.

HI :
lots of upgrades but quickies are..
garuda - eponas
herc crit dmg 5 augs


I will post my sets in a bit :D

Ok thanks :)

Also 3 things jump up right away:

Begrudging Ring no good then !? (Thought was TOP Notch for Crits)

Abj 119 not good for WS ? (confused about that one)

and

Fotia is no good either ? (Thoguth was TOP Notch for WS)



Also I can farm alot but not sure what to aim for anymore as I main Focus on my BLU (Just getting back to NIN now after a good while) So by all means, show me what is a good / up to date set for those WS


Its much appreciated.

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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-17 14:46:48  
begruding is great for hi, you want beg/eponas.

fotia is only great for shun. Its not a wsd aug like it says. Not like the mantles, ishrava, wsd dmg augs etc.

There is a good argument though that the 2% chance to have your save tp kick in or 1/50 may also be something you want. The dps diff is not HUGE but they can be beat by other options on Hi/Metsu/Ten with said gears.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-17 14:48:25  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
begruding is great for hi, you want beg/eponas.

fotia is only great for shun. Its not a wsd aug like it says. Not like the mantles, ishrava, wsd dmg augs etc.

There is a good argument though that the 2% chance to have your save tp kick in or 1/50 may also be something you want. The dps diff is not HUGE but they can be beat by other options on Hi/Metsu/Ten with said gears.

I see.

Well I am eager to see your SETs man :)
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-17 16:20:05  
Metsu- Lugra/Lugra+1 at night
ItemSet 347741
-Samnuha legs will be better at low buffs. However jokushu pull ahead at high buffs when still capping acc.

HI - Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347743
-Honestly I only use Hi for SC purposes which are few now. It does "ok" dmg but nothing great.

Ten- Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347744
-so cool side note, with war in party during warcry this ws is just crazy the dmg it puts out.

Shun- Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347746
-Spreedsheet has moonshade losing, I am not sure if it factoring the attack penalty shun has though and effects of tp on that.

-This set I feel has the most potential for improvements, please recommend on this or any of me sets :D

I am welcome to suggestions too. I know I need another ramuh+1, but I noticed no matter position of my ring in lua, or where I have the physical ring in diff areaa, sometimes if there are 2 of a ring it wont equip one. I prefer to use a NQ to avoid this, though I know its not optimal.
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-11-17 16:25:52  
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Please Post your Weapon Skill sets

I am using this but not the best I know.

Ku:
ItemSet 338526

Please comment if any improvements or Suggestions :)


For Ku, a simple upgrade would be to just use one of your Ambuscade capes. I'm guessing you already have a DEX/DA cape, which is fine for it. It also can't critical, so Yetshila is doing nothing for it- so use Seething +1 when you get it and just about anything else until you do. I would also just use your Adhemar Jacket for it until you can augment a good +TA Herculean Vest. TA Herculean boots (ideally with STR or DEX) would be an improvement over Rawhide. If you happen to have a Trux earring, you can use that over Moonshade.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-17 18:10:41  
Siren.Kyte said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Please Post your Weapon Skill sets

I am using this but not the best I know.

Ku:
ItemSet 338526

Please comment if any improvements or Suggestions :)


For Ku, a simple upgrade would be to just use one of your Ambuscade capes. I'm guessing you already have a DEX/DA cape, which is fine for it. It also can't critical, so Yetshila is doing nothing for it- so use Seething +1 when you get it and just about anything else until you do. I would also just use your Adhemar Jacket for it until you can augment a good +TA Herculean Vest. TA Herculean boots (ideally with STR or DEX) would be an improvement over Rawhide. If you happen to have a Trux earring, you can use that over Moonshade.

Awesome !


This are my only Herculean with Augments so far (they pretty ***as they got no ACC+ ><)
Herc Helm : Triple ATK +4% ACC+6 ATK+28
Herc Gloves : Triple ATK+4% ACC+7 STR+3
Herc Trousers : Triple Atk +4%
Herculean Boots : ACC+10 ATK+19 Triple ATK+4%


also got 2nd pair of Legs:

Herculean Trousers : STR+6 DEX+6 M.ACC+38 MAB+15 PET: PDT-1%
Taeon Tights : M.ACC+15 MAB+15 FC+2%
Taeon Tights : ACC+17 Triple ATK+2% Crit hit DMG +3%


Hesitant to Replace current Taeon with Herculean (which is clearly better for MAB MACC Settup) due to having to "Specify which goes where" >< (Just lazy but might as well do it) as well as getting a set for WS and 1 for TP ><

Thanks tho, Very useful Comentary on how to update it ^^
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-17 18:12:57  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
Metsu- Lugra/Lugra+1 at night
ItemSet 347741
-Samnuha legs will be better at low buffs. However jokushu pull ahead at high buffs when still capping acc.

HI - Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347743
-Honestly I only use Hi for SC purposes which are few now. It does "ok" dmg but nothing great.

Ten- Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347744
-so cool side note, with war in party during warcry this ws is just crazy the dmg it puts out.

Shun- Lugra+1/moonshade at night
ItemSet 347746
-Spreedsheet has moonshade losing, I am not sure if it factoring the attack penalty shun has though and effects of tp on that.

-This set I feel has the most potential for improvements, please recommend on this or any of me sets :D

I am welcome to suggestions too. I know I need another ramuh+1, but I noticed no matter position of my ring in lua, or where I have the physical ring in diff areaa, sometimes if there are 2 of a ring it wont equip one. I prefer to use a NQ to avoid this, though I know its not optimal.

Ah.... I see how you gear'd it , cool , some of this I yet to get myself , but I clearly gearing it wrong , so gonna make changes and update them ^^/

Thanks :)
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-11-18 03:34:16  
For Ten:
Ring >Rajas/Apate work very good, I seem to recall they're better than Ifrit NQ, not sure on HQ but you don't have HQ so no biggie here. Shukuyu might be very good as well if you're not attack capped.
Body > Well you do have Adhemar NQ, if it's path B then it's likely better than Rawhide because of the additional att/ta, despite Rawhide having slightly higher STR/DEX

For Hi
Body > you should be using Abnoba here. If you don't have it I dunno, possibly even Hattori+1? If you get a Herc body with WS DMG and good stats, can use it for both Ten and Hi
Hands > Ryuo HQ is the best. But Kobo Kote is very close and better than NQ, if you can live without the missing Acc.
Head > Consider Lilitu if you have a Perf one
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-18 13:25:12  
Sechs I decided to run some numbers in the spreedsheet because your comment got me reevaluating slots for my ten set.

I use aeonic/kujaku+1 for comparison with standard zerg buffs and low buffs. Used my set from above on lv 135. Didnt mess with herc augs bc its clear str+wsd+attack are best for dmg, aim for that on herc stuff (dex/wsd/acc etc obviously are all great too but not as high).

zerg I got base set - 19245(torpor+fraility+chaos+sam+marchx2/mad/minuet+zerk/agg+dia3)
ifrit+1 x2 -> apate/rajas - 19358(ifrit+1/rajas 19274, if you do ifrit+1/apate its 19262 )
grunfeld - > metalsinger - 19333
grunfeld -> prosilio +1 - 19143
grunfeld -> wanion - 19311
dex wsd andartia -> to str based - 19582
seething+1 -> jukiku - 19186
caro neck -> fotia -19160

making all the best dmg changes together is 19245 -> 19702 or a 2.4%~ increase.

low buff base set with only zerk/agg/dia3 as posted above - 5792
ifrit+1 x2 -> apate/rajas - 5759 (each is a loss by itself too)
grunfeld - > metalsinger - 5761
grunfeld -> prosilio +1 - 5802
dex wsd andartia -> to str based - 5982
seething+1 -> jukiku - 5708

making all the best dmg changes together is 5792 -> 5992 or a 3.5%~ increase.

you can see either way all these changese are so minimal at the end of the day I would not even worry about them. One this is clear though I think attack is more more important at low buffs than anything else. This is usually what we see though so no shocker there.

I didnt know kobo did that great, I have them just rotting in inventory and never figured out what they would be good at. Thanks! my rarely used Hi will be even better :D
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-11-18 13:33:56  
Fotia neck is probably worth using, maybe even waist, on your high attack Ten sets if you factor in the 1% TP recycle thing. Caro is really kind of pathetic.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-18 14:44:46  
drop in 85 dmg or about .5%~ while not huge it is an avg drop and larger than most of the changes noted above. now the question is, is that 1% more ws worth it?

I have been on the bench about this for awhile myself for ANY ws really. With double fotia that means 1/50 ws will save tp for another. I doubt with high haste etc that really equated to 2% more ws like math would indicate. Due to lag, delay, human error - I like to think of that 1/50 more as a "your next ws is going to be 200% guaranteed". For something like Ten, that means jumping from 1750 to 2750 which is not a terrible thing :D
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-11-18 15:20:25  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
you can see either way all these changese are so minimal at the end of the day I would not even worry about them.
To be honest yes, I agree with this.


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I didnt know kobo did that great, I have them just rotting in inventory and never figured out what they would be good at. Thanks! my rarely used Hi will be even better :D
Yeah I seem to recall Kobo was even better than HQ Ryou hands and I was very disappointed.
That's true only when you don't need acc in that slot though, of course.

<== Needs Kobo Kote

But tbf lolHi these days, so I kinda went lazy and stopped farming for it =/
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-11-18 16:12:17  
Asura.Sechs said: »
For Ten:
Ring >Rajas/Apate work very good, I seem to recall they're better than Ifrit NQ, not sure on HQ but you don't have HQ so no biggie here. Shukuyu might be very good as well if you're not attack capped.
Body > Well you do have Adhemar NQ, if it's path B then it's likely better than Rawhide because of the additional att/ta, despite Rawhide having slightly higher STR/DEX

For Hi
Body > you should be using Abnoba here. If you don't have it I dunno, possibly even Hattori+1? If you get a Herc body with WS DMG and good stats, can use it for both Ten and Hi
Hands > Ryuo HQ is the best. But Kobo Kote is very close and better than NQ, if you can live without the missing Acc.
Head > Consider Lilitu if you have a Perf one

Cool Thanks :D


Adhemar Body / Head / Hands = PATH A

I do have 2 Rawhide

PATH A
PATH D
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-18 22:34:43  
rawhide is interesting I have it out beating adhemar sometimes on shun lol....

other post your sets! im bored!
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By Asura.Kiyarasubrosa 2016-11-19 01:43:26  
TP Set:

ItemSet 347739

WS Set:

ItemSet 347768

Ochu (1st one is capped augments, 2nd one is nearly capped augments)
Dampening Tam (capped augments)
Rawhide Vest (Rank 15, Path D)
Adhemar Bonnet (Rank 15, Path B)
Adhemar Wristbands (Rank 15, Path A)
Andartia Mantle (25 DEX, 20 atk/acc, +10 DA)
Samnuha Tights (capped augments)
Loyalist Sabatons (capped augments)

Unfortunately, I don't have the room on my character to have a WS set for every single WS so I just do one best for all type deal. Usually just end up using Blade: Shun, Blade: Hi and Blade: Ku due to damage and skillchain setups. I was considering getting a Kikoku as I heard Blade: Metsu is a pretty strong WS.

Can't seem to break 10k on my WS though. Not sure what WS damage potential is with Ninja so any information would be helpful. Thanks.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-19 01:57:54  
my metsu will get 10k~ on most high lv mobs, can get a lot higher though with buffs.

On something like selkit, with just trusts I avg 14500~ on metsu. tealmoth I can get metsu and shun to actually break 20k with a lucky ta/da.

Ten is a great ws at high tp. at 2000 its not uncommon to hover around 20k and at 3000 you can near 27k~ on a lot of stuff. Last month ambuscade with a war in pty I was spamming 16k-22k tens at 100tp (effective 1950~)
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By Asura.Kiyarasubrosa 2016-11-19 02:07:34  
Bad thing about Blade: Hi is that AGI is the mod which blows. Should of been DEX. Not sure why SE made that call. Least Shun, Metsu and Ku use DEX so less sets to worry about.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2016-11-19 02:15:28  
Really should concentrate on shun set, if you dont have a Ream thats going to be your best performer. Hi is only useful for sc and even then I find myself using ten more because I always seem to out tp my sc partners and ten at 2k tp is beastly.
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By Asura.Kiyarasubrosa 2016-11-19 02:19:34  
Hi seems pretty lackluster. Only get between 3-7k with it on Apex mobs but also consider I'm not using a solid AGI set. Shun is much better overall it seems. And gorget/belt affects all hits of ninja's WS unlike other jobs such as thf. Haven't tried Ten yet. Thanks for the information.
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By baroma 2017-06-11 10:19:33  
Would su3 gear fit in any of the WS sets? Specifically Shun. I am working on that set and currently have dex/DA cape. I really like all the triple stick and crits they have.
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By Bismarck.Lilmartio 2017-06-11 12:17:45  
If you can't access Herculean gear then su3 should do just as well. Though su3 falls behind due to no attack on them. A mixture of both should provide a deadly combo. Should also think of getting some Herculean pieces as they are very good for a TP set and the TP set just lines up perfectly with a Shun set. Also, the leg slot should be taken by a decent to max augmented Samnuha Tights or a Jokushu Haidate.
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