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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 10:24:47  
Ramyrez said: »
Ideally, federally, because I don't like systems that vary results depending upon the whims of whether or not you turned someone's sister down for a date. (Small town politics can *** right off).

Realistically, at this point in time, I'm going to say state.

In no way ideal is "local," which is generally the way it's handled.
Truthfully, it is funded by all 3 levels.

Federal grants to states to help support funding 9Source)

States appropriations to local levels (too many sources to pick one specific out, it's a general practice).

Local appropriations based by local taxes (sales, property, business).

Percentages vary, but generally speaking, Local trumps State, and State trumps Federal in terms of actual percentages.

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I don't like volunteer fire services. Please read that carefully before criticizing. I'm not saying I don't like the people in those services. I think they're by and large great men and women who volunteer to do something very dangerous to keep their communities safe.

I don't like that it's not a paid service and I don't like that literally everyplace I've lived they've been treated as an annoyance and hindrance by local budget makers. They're a vital service, they should be a full-time, staffed, well-equipped service.
Almost impossible to fund and maintain for rural areas. I mean, you are looking at a centralized location that can only support so many people, and in some areas, you are looking at only a dozen or so houses.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 10:27:17  
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Absolutely what's wrong with laughing are you communist ?
You still never answered my question from before: Do you hate America?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-23 10:41:38  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Do you hate America?

america would be great... if we could just get rid of all the people...

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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-23 10:43:22  
Lordgrim, if you are serious about running for president you have a bit of work ahead of you.

In the last few decades there have been only two paths to a credible run. Credible = being on the ballot in most states and getting mentioned in the national media. Credible =/= having a chance at winning.

The two paths are either a career in "public service" or being a billionaire. I think the lowest rungs on the "public service" path are mayor of a major city (Rudy Guiliani) or a leadership position in the house (Newt Gingrich). The billionaire path must include name recognition as well.

The unknown third party run can be fun. I know, I worked for Louis Abolafia's 1968 run, but it goes nowhere. Even with some name recognition which Louis had.

So stop dinking around on infowars and FFXIAH, get busy, start by running for city council or county commissioner or your state house. Work your way up to where you can launch a credible run.

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-23 10:45:16  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Well, his *** apparently!
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 10:46:23  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Absolutely what's wrong with laughing are you communist ?
You still never answered my question from before: Do you hate America?

You don't ask questions you ask loaded questions that only your answer is the right one.

But seriously i Love my nation but i hate what kind of government replaced our founding government.

This is the Democracy we are under, where its illegal to dance and kiss and show emotion on state grounds we pay taxes for. This is the democracy you love
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-23 10:48:00  
At the time we said "then what's the hat for?"

It was a fun run.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-23 10:50:59  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lordgrim, if you are serious

imma stop you right there....



he's male and he admitted liking justin bieber.... his chances of being elected to anything are zero... he wouldn't be voted HOA president if he owned a whole neighborhood...
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By fonewear 2016-09-23 10:54:44  
The only people that hate America are backup quarterbacks for SF
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:03:01  
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
You don't ask questions you ask loaded questions that only your answer is the right one.
I don't ask loaded questions to you. I ask them to other people, but for you, I ask simple questions because you are much easier to reply "Gotcha!" answers to.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
But seriously i Love my nation but i hate what kind of government replaced our founding government.
It's called "evolution of the political climate."

What you are wanting, that world doesn't exist anymore. The founding government was ideal in 1776 because 1776 world is much different than 2016 world. What you are asking for is not for an ideal government, but one where it would fall apart the moment it was enacted.

Face it, if the American Revolution happened today, we would have a completely different form of government today than what we did made in 1776.

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This is the Democracy we are under, where its illegal to dance and kiss and show emotion on state grounds we pay taxes for.
Name the law that makes it illegal to do all those things.
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By fonewear 2016-09-23 11:03:01  
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Lordgrim, if you are serious about running for president you have a bit of work ahead of you.

In the last few decades there have been only two paths to a credible run. Credible = being on the ballot in most states and getting mentioned in the national media. Credible =/= having a chance at winning.

The two paths are either a career in "public service" or being a billionaire. I think the lowest rungs on the "public service" path are mayor of a major city (Rudy Guiliani) or a leadership position in the house (Newt Gingrich). The billionaire path must include name recognition as well.

The unknown third party run can be fun. I know, I worked for Louis Abolafia's 1968 run, but it goes nowhere. Even with some name recognition which Louis had.

So stop dinking around on infowars and FFXIAH, get busy, start by running for city council or county commissioner or your state house. Work your way up to where you can launch a credible run.

Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lordgrim, if you are serious about running for president you have a bit of work ahead of you.

In the last few decades there have been only two paths to a credible run. Credible = being on the ballot in most states and getting mentioned in the national media. Credible =/= having a chance at winning.

The two paths are either a career in "public service" or being a billionaire. I think the lowest rungs on the "public service" path are mayor of a major city (Rudy Guiliani) or a leadership position in the house (Newt Gingrich). The billionaire path must include name recognition as well.

The unknown third party run can be fun. I know, I worked for Louis Abolafia's 1968 run, but it goes nowhere. Even with some name recognition which Louis had.

So stop dinking around on infowars and FFXIAH, get busy, start by running for city council or county commissioner or your state house. Work your way up to where you can launch a credible run.


You are talking to the wrong audience here. Most millennials don't think the world existed before the year 2000 !
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:06:51  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lordgrim, if you are serious about running for president you have a bit of work ahead of you.

In the last few decades there have been only two paths to a credible run. Credible = being on the ballot in most states and getting mentioned in the national media. Credible =/= having a chance at winning.

The two paths are either a career in "public service" or being a billionaire. I think the lowest rungs on the "public service" path are mayor of a major city (Rudy Guiliani) or a leadership position in the house (Newt Gingrich). The billionaire path must include name recognition as well.

The unknown third party run can be fun. I know, I worked for Louis Abolafia's 1968 run, but it goes nowhere. Even with some name recognition which Louis had.

So stop dinking around on infowars and FFXIAH, get busy, start by running for city council or county commissioner or your state house. Work your way up to where you can launch a credible run.

I am well aware of what i am doing chanti and you're wrong about the paths.

Nowhere in the constitution does it mention that you have a to be a millionaire or billionaire to run for high office

nowhere in the constitution does it say you must have previous experience in politics or held a office in relation to town, state, or federally to run for high office.

nowhere in the constitution does it say you must be part of a political party organization to run for high office.

i meet the requirements besides age, still got to wait 4 years. i was born in the US by two american citizens. Thats better then lieing ted cruz

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By fonewear 2016-09-23 11:08:45  
I don't remember anywhere in the Constitution to show blind devotion to a website dedicated to a dying MMO either !
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:13:15  
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I don't remember anywhere in the Constitution to show blind devotion to a website dedicated to a dying MMO either !

You're damn right fonwear it doesn't at least i'll be a president with a good taste mmo's. Shout out to my siren server mates from the podium. Maybe i could convince Japan to keep the game around.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:15:25  
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fonewear said: »
I don't remember anywhere in the Constitution to show blind devotion to a website dedicated to a dying MMO either !

You're damn right fonwear it doesn't at least i'll be a president with a good taste mmo's. Shout out to my siren server mates from the podium. Maybe i could convince Japan to keep the game around.

Hey japan after we conquered you in ww2 and rebuilt your nation you at least owe the playerbase of final fantasy 11 lifetime service consider it a favor and gratitude from the world's strongest superpower
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-23 11:15:42  
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fonewear said: »
I don't remember anywhere in the Constitution to show blind devotion to a website dedicated to a dying MMO either !

You're damn right fonwear it doesn't at least i'll be a president with a good taste mmo's. Shout out to my siren server mates from the podium. Maybe i could convince Japan to keep the game around.

Offer up the nukes.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:17:21  
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I am well aware of what i am doing
The jury's still out on that one.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-23 11:19:51  
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i'll be a president

of your own fanclub?

dude nobody would vote for you... to be anything... or to do anything except maybe to stay behind while others filled the lifeboats on the titanic...even if there were seats left...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:20:29  
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Nowhere in the constitution does it mention that you have a to be a millionaire or billionaire to run for high office
No, but it helps.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
nowhere in the constitution does it say you must have previous experience in politics or held a office in relation to town, state, or federally to run for high office.
No, but it helps. Also, "federally"?

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
nowhere in the constitution does it say you must be part of a political party organization to run for high office.
No, but it helps. Also, try getting elected as an independent to any office, I dare you!

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i meet the requirements besides age, still got to wait 4 years.
I think they need to institute a new qualifier. If your IQ is above 90, you can run for president.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-23 11:25:34  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
The founding government was ideal in 1776

I could kinda go for the thomas jefferson style slave holding...especially on cold evenings... if you know what I mean.../nudge /nudge /wink /wink

but *** wearing those powdered wigs! those things look itchy as a mofo!

and what was the deal with those white stockings? PASS
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:26:54  
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Also, try getting elected as an independent to any office, I dare you!

Dare taken !

also your confused good sir, Independent is a political party.

I'm not affiliated nor joining any political party i'll be a Independent Individual you know like how our Nation was founded by individuals not political parties.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:27:30  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
The founding government was ideal in 1776

I could kinda go for the thomas jefferson style slave holding...especially on cold evenings... if you know what I mean.../nudge /nudge /wink /wink

but *** wearing those powdered wigs! those things look itchy as a mofo!

and what was the deal with those white stockings? PASS
I thought you were one of the founding fathers.

I mean, as old and cranky as you are, you would think.....
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:31:33  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Also, try getting elected as an independent to any office, I dare you!

Dare taken !

also your confused good sir, Independent is a political party.

I'm not affiliated nor joining any political party i'll be a Independent Individual you know like how our Nation was founded by individuals not political parties.
Welp, you just disqualified yourself from running.

You can't be running as an Independent and say you are not going to run under a political party. That's yet another counter to your own argument.

Damn, you counter yourself more times than Krillin has died!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-23 11:32:03  
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How are you planning to get media exposure? People can't vote for you if they don't know you.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:32:48  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
The founding government was ideal in 1776

I could kinda go for the thomas jefferson style slave holding...especially on cold evenings... if you know what I mean.../nudge /nudge /wink /wink

but *** wearing those powdered wigs! those things look itchy as a mofo!

and what was the deal with those white stockings? PASS

Its nothing like that actually i'll be freeing us from the Debt Slavery the federal reserve has done to us along with these political parties.

i agree with you hell no with the powdered wigs and white stocking and even corporate dress Suits. The leader of the free world should dress however he or she wants if we represent that world we are not a corporation with a dress code, sounds communist *** that
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By fonewear 2016-09-23 11:32:51  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
The founding government was ideal in 1776

I could kinda go for the thomas jefferson style slave holding...especially on cold evenings... if you know what I mean.../nudge /nudge /wink /wink

but *** wearing those powdered wigs! those things look itchy as a mofo!

and what was the deal with those white stockings? PASS

White stockings that's racist !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-23 11:32:59  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Nowhere in the constitution does it mention that you have a to be a millionaire or billionaire to run for high office
No, but it helps.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
nowhere in the constitution does it say you must have previous experience in politics or held a office in relation to town, state, or federally to run for high office.
No, but it helps. Also, "federally"?

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
nowhere in the constitution does it say you must be part of a political party organization to run for high office.
No, but it helps. Also, try getting elected as an independent to any office, I dare you!

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
i meet the requirements besides age, still got to wait 4 years.
I think they need to institute a new qualifier. If your IQ is above 90, you can run for president.

Yeah, it seems the "but it helps" part is what's missing in this presidential fantasy. Like, "it helps" to have the entire country know who you are. "It helps" to not spend all of your time campaigning on a video game website where anywhere between 0-3 people take you seriously. "It helps" to understand how reality works.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-23 11:34:05  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
How are you planning to get media exposure?

by posting here... duh
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-23 11:34:58  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Also, try getting elected as an independent to any office, I dare you!

Dare taken !

also your confused good sir, Independent is a political party.

I'm not affiliated nor joining any political party i'll be a Independent Individual you know like how our Nation was founded by individuals not political parties.
Welp, you just disqualified yourself from running.

You can't be running as an Independent and say you are not going to run under a political party. That's yet another counter to your own argument.

Damn, you counter yourself more times than Krillin has died!

Your wrong bud you clearly have a problem with reading
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