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By fonewear 2016-08-09 14:55:48  
Ramyrez said: »
]Not taking a side here[/b] because I think it's a questionable move at best.

That said, a thoughtful discussion could be had (it won't be, but I'll try anyhow):

Shooter's father is not the shooter, everyone is responsible for their own behavior and no one else's. Father has to deal with the fallout of the horrible things his own son did and has to question whether or not he should even mourn the loss of his own son due to his son's terrible acts.

Personal responsibility vs. guilt by association.

Political ploy? Reaching out to someone who is likely grieving and struggling with how/if he even should? An attempt at healing?

Which is it?

Personally I don't think it's a slap in the face to anyone, especially anyone calling for forgiveness and healing in the face of terrible events. But I'm not in any "community" that's "marginalized" to really say, I guess.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 14:56:40  
Fail fone!
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By fonewear 2016-08-09 14:57:20  
I tried and failed much like Hillary. But I don't have the media to cover for me 24/7 !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:00:38  
fonewear said: »
I tried and failed much like Hillary. But I don't have the media to ignore me 24/7 !
fixed that for you.
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By fonewear 2016-08-09 15:01:58  
I'm still on vacation from the media so. They can bash Trump 24/7 I'm tired of it. It is bad enough to see that ***here !
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-09 15:04:40  
'Why does the media ignore Clinton!', said unironically during a discussion of a news media story about Clinton.
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By fonewear 2016-08-09 15:07:38  
It's simple cause most of the media works for Hillary. And they do her bidding.
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By Bloodrose 2016-08-09 15:10:21  
fonewear said: »
It's simple cause most of the media works for Hillary. And they do her bidding.
And here I thought they worked for the Zionist overlords that controlled all aspects of everyday life.

Might want to tell a certain conspiracy theorist the real truth, Fone.
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By fonewear 2016-08-09 15:12:03  
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fonewear said: »
It's simple cause most of the media works for Hillary. And they do her bidding.
And here I thought they worked for the Zionist overlords that controlled all aspects of everyday life.

Might want to tell a certain conspiracy theorist the real truth, Fone.

It isn't a half baked conspiracy theory. Turn on CNN for example and find me a story that makes Hillary look bad I'll wait.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:12:09  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
'Why does the media ignore Clinton!', said unironically during a discussion of a news media story about Clinton.
Better question should be:

Why does the media ignore every issue with Clinton, and yet, attack Trump on even the most farfetched and most likely made up story by 3rd parties?

Or are you going to say that you heard Trump specifically state that he will nuke Iran on the first day he is President?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-09 15:14:43  
CNN is on the gym monitor right now running with the Mateen story. Aren't they supposed to be on her payroll or whatever?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-09 15:16:14  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
'Why does the media ignore Clinton!', said unironically during a discussion of a news media story about Clinton.

Funny you should say that, because since we've been talking about it the top news on my google news feed quickly turned from the negative Clinton story to a random negative one about Trump, another random negative one about Trump, and a positive one about Clinton's campaign push into battleground states.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-09 15:19:04  
Aaaaaaaand back to a negative story about Trump based on comments from Susan Collins.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:19:11  
fonewear said: »
Bloodrose said: »
fonewear said: »
It's simple cause most of the media works for Hillary. And they do her bidding.
And here I thought they worked for the Zionist overlords that controlled all aspects of everyday life.

Might want to tell a certain conspiracy theorist the real truth, Fone.

It isn't a half baked conspiracy theory. Turn on CNN for example and find me a story that makes Hillary look bad I'll wait.
This is the harshest article on CNN against Clinton right now:

Clinton admits she may have 'short circuited' answers on email controversy.

Mind you, this was buried way down in the archives.

Today's headlines?

Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes

Many people are saying -- that Trump drives conspiracies and gossip

Susan Collins: Donald Trump will make the world 'more dangerous'
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:20:42  
But there is no media bias in this election, nosiree!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-09 15:22:19  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But there is no media bias in this election, nosiree!

Not even when they admit it. And oh, sorry, even if it does exist it's okay because it happens in every election.
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By fonewear 2016-08-09 15:24:44  
I'm playing Fallout 4 and I saw a message pop up saying "Trump will lead to more nuclear war and despair !"
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-09 15:28:16  
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Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes

It looks like the title was modified, because taking a very ambiguous comment and using it to claim that Trump is advocating gun massacres is absolutely insane, even for CNN.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:32:50  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes

It looks like the title was modified, because taking a very ambiguous comment and using it to claim that Trump is advocating gun massacres is absolutely insane, even for CNN.
I had to modify it, it wouldn't let me copy pasta from the website for some reason.

Message (from CNN) is basically the same.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:34:20  
Original Title is: Trump: 'Second Amendment people' could thwart Clinton
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-09 15:42:27  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Original Title is: Trump: 'Second Amendment people' could thwart Clinton
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Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes
But it's the left that has issues with hyperbole
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2016-08-09 15:46:21  
yeah, he could of meant ANYTHING by what he said. that's the core problem with him. a presidential candidate should maybe try to make unambiguous statements that can't be misconstrued as "kill this person.". maybe it's the stuff he says, not a massive conspiracy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-09 15:48:52  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Original Title is: Trump: 'Second Amendment people' could thwart Clinton
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes
But it's the left that has issues with hyperbole

The only reason it's a news story in the first place is because they want people to think what he said was somehow horrible, even if they're not willing to come right out and say it. It shouldn't be a story in the first place because there's nothing there. Kind of like with the whole kicking a baby out of his rally thing, even though the mother has since defended Trump and chided the media for lying (but barely got any news coverage for doing so).
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:52:22  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Original Title is: Trump: 'Second Amendment people' could thwart Clinton
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Trump declares war on Democrats, tells 2nd Amendment radicals to shoot up homes
But it's the left that has issues with hyperbole
It's called playing the game by the media's rules.

Get with the program man!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:53:20  
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
yeah, he could of meant ANYTHING by what he said. that's the core problem with him. a presidential candidate should maybe try to make unambiguous statements that can't be misconstrued as "kill this person.". maybe it's the stuff he says, not a massive conspiracy.
Didn't stop the media from making "I like this baby" into "Trump kicked baby from rally."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 15:58:30  
But hey, at least we proven something here.

When the left makes a mountain out of a molehill, it's sensationalism and therefor ok.

When the right or a conservative uses sensationalism as an example, it's therefor hyperbole and not ok (unless the left uses it, then it's ok).

If a conservative breathes, they are taking up the air from every lefty there is, and therefor bad, and they should be ashamed!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-09 16:07:46  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But hey, at least we proven something here.

When the left makes a mountain out of a molehill, it's sensationalism and therefor ok.

When the right or a conservative uses sensationalism as an example, it's therefor hyperbole and not ok (unless the left uses it, then it's ok).

If a conservative breathes, they are taking up the air from every lefty there is, and therefor bad, and they should be ashamed!
How the rat stumbled through the maze and found that piece of cheese I'll never know
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2016-08-09 16:07:52  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
'Why does the media ignore Clinton!', said unironically during a discussion of a news media story about Clinton.
Better question should be:

Why does the media ignore every issue with Clinton, and yet, attack Trump on even the most farfetched and most likely made up story by 3rd parties?

Or are you going to say that you heard Trump specifically state that he will nuke Iran on the first day he is President?
Trump is like the poster boy of making up farfetched stories with no actual proof. And when there is actual proof that goes against him, it suddenly becomes "he never said that" or "he was just joking. You don't understand".
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-09 16:12:10  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How the rat stumbled through the maze and found that piece of cheese I'll never know
Better to ask the rat then:

How did you find that piece of cheese Pleebo?

Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
Trump is like the poster boy of making up farfetched stories with no actual proof. And when there is actual proof that goes against him, it suddenly becomes "he never said that" or "he was just joking. You don't understand".
You mean like how that 3rd party said that Trump asked why we shouldn't use nukes on Europe?

We should totally believe what a 3rd party, possibly democrat, said about Trump, right?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-08-09 16:20:54  
I think a big problem with Trump is it totally sounds like something he'd say lol
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