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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 11:34:50  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
*backreads* Some people really need to educate themselves about the meaning of ideologies and study some philosophy instead of spewing demented stuff about their perceived notions.
If everyone did that, nobody would say anything...ever again.
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By fonewear 2016-07-25 11:38:16  
You know why some people need to educated themselves this is why:

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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-25 11:39:59  
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If it's ok for private enterprises (that is what the RNC/DNC are, they are not government entities) to have to reveal their emails, what's next? Private citizens (aka you and me) have to do the same?

Russia hacking into the DNC = bad.

Just like people hacking into Sony's email system is also = bad. But you don't seem to complain about that, do you?
Actually I have complained about it... Well not complained about it so much as disapproved of the action in general on anyone... I was even against the Ashley Madison back sooooooo yeah...

There probably are people out there that lauded other hacks and disapproved of this one or approved of this one and disapproved of another one showing their opinion is more self serving than a disapproval of approval of the action...

I didn't once say they had to make these types of correspondence public or make a push saying that they should be required to so yeah...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-07-25 11:42:14  
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You just described all of Clinton's campaign. Any thoughts about Trump's?

Yeah, it's called look back at the man's history before and during the election cycle.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 11:51:01  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
If it's ok for private enterprises (that is what the RNC/DNC are, they are not government entities) to have to reveal their emails, what's next? Private citizens (aka you and me) have to do the same?

Russia hacking into the DNC = bad.

Just like people hacking into Sony's email system is also = bad. But you don't seem to complain about that, do you?
Actually I have complained about it... Well not complained about it so much as disapproved of the action in general on anyone... I was even against the Ashley Madison back sooooooo yeah...

There probably are people out there that lauded other hacks and disapproved of this one or approved of this one and disapproved of another one showing their opinion is more self serving than a disapproval of approval of the action...

I didn't once say they had to make these types of correspondence public or make a push saying that they should be required to so yeah...
It wasn't directed towards you, it was directed towards the notion of allowing transparency towards private enterprises.

Now, if transparency was only directed towards political action groups, then some might be on board, but even then, that may create a slippery slope.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 11:51:27  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You just described all of Clinton's campaign. Any thoughts about Trump's?

Yeah, it's called look back at the man's history before and during the election cycle.
And?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-25 11:51:44  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You just described all of Clinton's campaign. Any thoughts about Trump's?

Yeah, it's called look back at the man's woman's history before and during the election cycle.

And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-25 11:53:18  
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Is there any proof that it was Russia that did the actual hacking? ...
Yes and no. It is known that two teams of Runnian hackers were inside the DNC's servers. It isn't known who else might have been.

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Private-sector cyber security investigators hired by the DNC concluded that hackers working for the Russian government were behind the year-long breach of the DNC. The investigation found intrusions by two Russian hacking groups....

The FBI and other US agencies involved haven't yet officially attributed the DNC attack to Russian government hackers. But evidence gathered by the FBI so far points to groups that are known to US counter-intelligence for carrying out intrusions for the Russian government, the officials briefed on the probe say....

It's possible that other hackers took advantage of the DNC's vulnerabilities and also stole information, US officials said. But the intrusion so far appears to bear the hallmarks of a Russian intelligence operation....
From FBI investigating suspected Russian hack of DNC emails
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-25 11:54:13  
Edit... Russian...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 11:55:42  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You just described all of Clinton's campaign. Any thoughts about Trump's?

Yeah, it's called look back at the man's woman's history before and during the election cycle.

And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 11:57:52  
If I remember when I get home (80% chance I won't) I'll link a good video someone on my Facebook page shared. Very non-partisan video.

Hits all the attacked points of each candidate.

They're exactly the same, and both 100% true, for each candidate.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-07-25 11:58:37  
Side note, latest 4 national polls:

CBS News: +1 Trump
CNN/ORC: +3 Trump
LA Times/USC: +4 Trump
Gravis: +2 Trump

RCP Overall: +0.2 Trump

For everyone who thought the Republican convention was a disaster, Trump got the expected bump anyway. Even Nate Silver is saying that Trump would likely win if the election were today. The ball's in the Democrats' court now, and the battle is uphill with the email revelation. Good luck.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:00:04  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Side note, latest 4 national polls:

CBS News: +1 Trump
CNN/ORC: +3 Trump
LA Times/USC: +4 Trump
Gravis: +2 Trump

RCP Overall: +0.2 Trump

For everyone who thought the Republican convention was a disaster, Trump got the expected bump anyway. Even Nate Silver is saying that Trump would likely win if the election were today. The ball's in the Democrats' court now, and the battle is uphill with the email revelation. Good luck.

Now see, I get that to a point.

But...at the same time. The Republican platform isn't changing.

Are people really going to vote for a ton of things they don't believe in because the person delivering the platform is objectively terrible?

And, if so, well.

We either need two new candidates and/or Johnson in a landslide.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-25 12:02:37  
Ramyrez said: »
The frustrating thing is that there basically isn't a candidate for any true liberals/progressive in this race
Vote Jill Stein.

Totally gonna win.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:04:04  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ramyrez said: »
The frustrating thing is that there basically isn't a candidate for any true liberals/progressive in this race
Vote Jill Stein.

Totally gonna win.

Well, it'd be a wasted vote in any pragmatic sense of the term, but my conscience would be clean at least.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:04:46  
Though she's even worse than Bernie about pandering to the *** hippies.

EAT YOUR GENETICALLY MODIFIED GRANOLA AND DEAL WITH IT, WHITE-GIRL-WITH-DREADS.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 12:06:28  
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The Republican platform isn't changing.
It shouldn't change...at the moment.

I should change after the election but for it to change now? Not a good idea.

At least it's not like the democrat's "outrage at whatever event happened that day" platform it's been doing for the past few decades.

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We either need two new candidates and/or Johnson in a landslide.
What we really need is an election of the "Best of two goods" instead of the "Lessor of two evils."

This will be the third presidential election in a row where I'm not voting for the person, I'm voting against his opponent. And I think that's what most of America has been doing since Obama/McCain.

Give all the faults to Bush all you want, but at least I was voting for the guy, not against Gore or Kerry.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 12:07:37  
Also, every time a person posts an edit post in P&R, an angel get's his wings.

Thanks Obama Rooks!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-07-25 12:08:22  
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-25 12:08:42  
Ramyrez said: »
pandering to the *** hippies
They are the *** hippies!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 12:11:42  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?
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By fonewear 2016-07-25 12:12:34  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?

Both are terrible !
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:12:54  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?

Fundamentally flawed question. They are mutually exclusive!

Frankly, I'll call the girls because they're young enough that they won't break a hip when Slimer accidentally knocks them over.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:13:09  
fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?

Both are terrible !

I don't agree but I appreciate the candor.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 12:13:40  
fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?

Both are terrible !
It's like I don't know who you are anymore.

Anyone who dares say that Bill Murray's Ghostbusters is horrible needs a swift kick in the gonads!
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:14:09  
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They aren't mutually exclusive!

GOD DAMMIT TED CRU-OOKS.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-07-25 12:15:50  
Another Angel get's his wings.

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By fonewear 2016-07-25 12:19:47  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
fonewear said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And with that minor change it applies to Clinton. Any thoughts on Trump's campaign that can only be applied to him?
He's rich....oh wait, that applies to Clinton too.

He's out of touch with reality....damn, applies to Clinton.

He doesn't give a ***about the little people....crap, also applies to Clinton.

He's donated to the democrats before...***...also Clinton.

He is a corrupt ***....crap, Clinton too....
So who you going to call? Ghostbusters or something?
Bill Murray Ghostbusters or Mellisa McCarthy's Ghostbusters?

Both are terrible !
It's like I don't know who you are anymore.

Anyone who dares say that Bill Murray's Ghostbusters is horrible needs a swift kick in the gonads!

Actually I don't think I've ever watched either movie. But mostly commenting on the new one cause of the feminist propaganda.
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By Ramyrez 2016-07-25 12:22:18  
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feminist propaganda.

See, I actually don't feel like there's been that much feminist propaganda. At least not from the producers.

Just a lot of hate from the stormfront types about "damn people ruining their childhood by letting women be ghostbusters."

Also, the original guys all signed off on it, specifically the creators and rights holders so...

To those guys I say, don't go see it and get a life, or sit and whine. Your choice neckbeards. Nobody gives a ***what you think.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-07-25 12:24:08  
Man... Mark Cuban has really come out against Trump...
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