Random Politics & Religion #01

It is two!

A lot of people a lot of the time!

if a mulsim president was elected

bring as much of their religion into the law as christians currently try to.

Everyone here realizes that our Country and Constitution was founded on the principles of Christianity right?


What exactly are they trying to "bring in"? Everything is practically already there and a minority of people want it removed...

Glad Jet is still around. He is better than the edit button! Who knew alot wasn't a word! Craziness! Thanks for pointing out such valuable information Jet, keep up the good work^^

Actually it was Deism, whoever taught you that the founding fathers were big on the principles of Christianity omitted their love affair with the philosophers of the French Enlightenment. The settlers who landed first and populated the colonies were a smorgasbord of Calvinists, Puritans and other Protestant sects but the founding fathers were Deist.

Most of your founding fathers also had slaves too.
Mentioning your roots in an argument for validity here is not a good idea.

It's up to your generation to move past traditions that no longer apply or that hinder in our modern society.

While Saevel is technically right, likely the only way we'd get "self proclaimed conservatives" on board with removing religion from the government would be if a mulsim president was elected and tried to bring as much of their religion into the law as christians currently try to.

Naw, I'm sure that if Christians stop voting for Republicans and start voting for liberals/democrats, Republicans would just as easily want religion out of government and liberals/democrats would be the ones who wants to defend it.

I actually wouldn't mind taking religion out of government. The only thing is it can never happen since religion sets the moral and ethical standard for people in the first place.

that's a very naive thing to say senor, if you genuinely believe in your capitalism world that anyone's religious beliefs are being put above their profits.

They aren't doing a thing, except being misinterpreted and used to remove the rights of others.

-_-

that's exactly the point. Need to stop trying to bring ancient traditions into your government and move into the 21st century with the rest of the world and to accept the fact that your religion has no place in governing a nation; Regardless of how the country started. (Except poland lately if you watch the news. poor poland)

Don't worry guys, Cruz wouldn't apply theocracy. He'd just institute the Inquisition.
Just polish your forks, you'll be fine.

that's exactly the point. Need to stop trying to bring ancient traditions into your government

What exactly are they trying to "bring in"? Everything is practically already there and a minority of people want it removed...

that's a very naive thing to say senor, if you genuinely believe in your capitalism world that anyone's religious beliefs are being put above their profits. They aren't doing a thing, except being misinterpreted and used to remove the rights of others.

Everyone here realizes that our Country and Constitution was founded on the principles of Christianity right?


What exactly are they trying to "bring in"? Everything is practically already there and a minority of people want it removed...

Except for the fact that the United States of America was in no way founded on the Christian religion and that the founding fathers purposely kept religion separate. We definitely should remember that and continue to be reminded of it.

Because God does not manifest himself directly, he can only be understood through the application of reason and through the study of the universe he created. Deists have a fairly positive view of human existence, stressing the greatness of creation and the faculties granted to humanity such as the ability to reason. As such, deists reject all forms of revealed religion. Any knowledge one has of God should come through their own understanding, experiences and reason, not the prophecies of others.

Because deists accept that God in uninterested in praise and that he in unapproachable via prayer, there is little organized religion surrounding deist beliefs. Deists often feel that organized religion add layers of untruth to the reality of God. Some deists, particularly historical ones, however, saw a value in organized religion for the common folk, because religion could instill positive concepts of morality and sense of community.

It's a great thing that most developed countries just ignore the obtuse obstructionism of the few who want to keep religion based laws.
Yay for gay marriage, abortion and keeping creationism fairytales out of science classes!!

that's a very naive thing to say senor, if you genuinely believe in your capitalism world that anyone's religious beliefs are being put above their profits.

What do you want me to say Altima? It's obvious that some POTUS candidates do not support equal rights for marriage and for pregnant women for example; You can easily lose progress made by electing the wrong person.