The Great Gun Debate.

And what happens when it is your kid or family member?

Is that just the price of "protecting" us from fascism? Because some psycho shoots up a batman movie then rigs his apartment with explosives?

The preventing fascism and "history from repeating" itself is a big game to talk. However, it is just a bunch of nonsense.
What are you going to do if history repeats and a fascist like Trump is elected? It is certainly a very real possibility.
There isn't going to be some uprising or some revolution. You aren't going to go "prevent history from repeating itself" and neither are most people who throw that out.

So much for that.

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These words get thrown around entirely too lazily on this forum.

We have an entire branch of government dedicated to interpreting and enforcing the intricacies of the Constitution and Constitutional law. And the judges within that branch are never even in complete agreement with each other.

Yet somehow, someone (not Jet specifically, I'm speaking in generalities) with nary a single lick of experience in Constitutional Law -- let alone the thousands of hours researching the history of interpretations by previous generations of lawmakers -- can give the original documents a quick read in their seventh grade American History class and tell you exactly how it should be applied at every level.

There's absolutely no way two people could read the same, vaguely-worded document and interpret it differently. Clearly one of them is an idiot who can't read, and both are going to say the same of the other.

I mean, yeah, I get it. "lulz welcome to the internet."

But maybe let's be less lazy about our arguments for a single day.

Its funnier when the guy who believes the judicial branch doesn't have the power to legitimize or render a law illegitimate, only attempts to insult ones ability to read as a tactic for debate.

The reality is after gun reform in a country like Brazil or Australia (you know, laws) the violence declined.

Or maybe people should literally just learn some basic reading comprehension.

The constitution never granted the Supreme court those "powers" you speak of by the way.

It doesn't matter if it is "an argument from feels". The idea of "what if this affects my loved ones" is completely disregarded. Your loved ones take precedence over any twisted notion that fascists care about your Kalashnikov.

The price of freedom isn't senseless death.

Doubling down.

I find it highly ironic. Perhaps that is the warped part.

I am sure those loved ones who just wanted to watch Batman or go to school in Newtown are really really glad they are safe from the fascists now.

Should I be able to carry guns into a bar? Y/N

Should I be able to carry guns into a bar? Y/N

Should I be able to carry guns into a bar? Y/N

Personally or Generally? Answers will differ.

Should I be able to carry guns into a bar? Y/N

Generally, should people be allowed to bring firearms into a bar.

Guns didn't give Lanza the ability to kill. It gave him the ability to mass murder with ease.

Keeping guns away from the mentally ill should be a priority to TRY and mitigate/prevent these events.

Ok. At least we have some common ground on that.

(That it's up to the owner to allow/deny guns in a bar without cries of MUH FREEDOMS.)

Weapons make it easier to kill targets. It's why we invented weapons. Cmon.

Weapons make it easier to kill targets. It's why we invented weapons. Cmon.

You can argue that without a gun he could have just built a pipe bomb but thats more difficult and more likely to get you pinched.