Thf: Dusk Feet Vs Pahluwan Cackrows.

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Thf: Dusk Feet vs Pahluwan Cackrows.
 Phoenix.Astronym
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By Phoenix.Astronym 2009-09-03 19:52:44  
Would 2% haste be worth switching to Dex +4 Acc +3?

i would be going from haste 20% to haste 18%

base acc would be capped acc +8/8 dagger merits, base dex for 75 hume thf +5 dex,
and acc +25.

im wondering if my lil cherry on top of the haste cupcake would be worth eating and putting on the pahl booties.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-09-03 19:56:39  
Not at all, you don't need that Acc, and 2% haste @20% is nice.

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On merit mobs you are in the 63%ish acc range w/o food, 285 dagger, +5(on 73) and acc+25, those boots bring you to 65ish +/-, so id say the haste +atk
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-09-03 19:59:17  
Based off of general trends I've noticed given the amount of haste you have you'd need a bit more stat-wise to justify the drop. As it is haste works exponentially so when you're dealing with numbers near the gear-cap you're getting much more out of it, being why you'll even see some with Blitz rings if it means capping out.
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By Fairy.Blackmist 2009-09-03 20:01:54  
I would go for haste, and pop some acc. food, :D

Whats the Ideal haste set up for thf anyway? I'm working on mine as

(Wally Turban) or Dinal Head pice
(JSE body pice) "can't spell the name i wont even try
Swift
Bravo Subliger
Dusk gloves
Dusk feet

thats 20% haste correct? (22% if you can get a V-belt or speed belt w/e one has the 6% haste or was it sonic belt, Lol)

Edit: (even more haste if you have the gil, and luck to Augment them +7 Acc rings, and get +1% Haste on them or w/e xD heard some one did that on Fairy, idk who, so i cant provide Screen shot ; ;)
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By Phoenix.Astronym 2009-09-03 20:05:59  
correct. thats what i have atm. with blau/sirocco its....sick. ive pulled hate off first vokes as soon as we start swinging just cause my daggers look like turbine engines spinning. however, i want to push more towards an acc cap, and with the new body piece and head piece it is possible. the feet i wonder about because i can get them easy, and theyre a good sub for homam until i can get them. but with the exponential haste situation, im not so sure. hoping someone can do the math like melphina on alla ^.^
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-09-03 20:10:30  
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=106839

Like this, haste tech cap is 26% but I can't think of 1% to add anywhere
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By Fairy.Blackmist 2009-09-03 20:16:25  
THF/DRG wyvern Earring =O theres you go o.o; xD Idk ;P
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-09-03 20:18:22  
That set is somewhere around 71.3% Acc, as hume w/o food, which is great w/ 25% haste.
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By Hades.Fathe 2009-09-03 21:14:34  
Could possibly replace Rap Harness with Mirke Wardecors w/ DW +3%/Acc or possbile DA/DW just a thought
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By Remora.Shinjiro 2010-05-30 13:56:28  
Enkidu Leggins is what i prefer as THF
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-30 14:08:47  
Homam!
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-05-30 14:58:13  
THF True Haste Cap (26%>(25%)):
(Pretend Blau is MainH and Sirocco OffH)



Sure, it gimps your accuracy horribly but hey, 26% haste! If you've got Dusk Gloves +1 somehow, then drop the helm or neck for turban/pcc. /Shrug. I'm bored. Not like this set would do any good unless your accuracy is over the cap (doubtful for most actually relevant enemies).

Edit: I saw this thread was necro'd, but just in case, to the OP: Use the dusk.
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By Mexichu 2010-05-30 15:01:47  
I wish they never made Abducen's helm. I've seen many a thf full time that, regardless of their acc.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-30 15:03:37  
If might if you put more acc in there. Like say Cuch mantle. Maybe some augments on stuff. Or at least asa legs with acc. Probably still need sushi though
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By Asura.Knightofdragon 2010-05-30 15:26:17  
Curc Mantel and Fire bomblet to counter Acubs -Acc.
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By Mexichu 2010-05-30 15:29:02  
Asura.Knightofdragon said:
Curc Mantel and Fire bomblet to counter Acubs -Acc.
Still wouldn't cap on anything worthwhile, and lax rajas ring, which is better than tor/tor for thf.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-30 15:40:04  
w/o skadi legs?
 
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By Mexichu 2010-05-30 15:41:44  
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
w/o skadi legs?
Yup yup, was talking of the set posted above.
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By Mexichu 2010-05-30 15:42:10  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Personally this is the best set I could come up with for THF TP:



If accuracy is still an issue I just swap out Rapparee Harness for Cobra Unit Harness or SH 1 and it should be enough.
Mkris, obviously not the best set you could have come up with.
 
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-30 16:13:16  
Dex+Acc Dakini/Blau (possibly second Dakini)/---/Bomblet
Turban/Love Torque/Suppa/Brutal
Rapparee/Dusk+1/Toreador's/Rajas
Cuch/Velocious/Skadi/Homam

during Feint or vs very low eva opponents swap in Acuben's Helm, Justice Torque, STR ring, Forager's Mantle, Bomb Core.

EDIT: Actually, Justice Torque may well add more DoT than Tiercel since it's only giving a fraction of Haste...
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-05-30 17:02:52  
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Dex Acc Dakini/Blau (possibly second Dakini)/---/Bomblet
Turban/Love Torque/Suppa/Brutal
Rapparee/Dusk 1/Toreador's/Rajas
Cuch/Velocious/Skadi/Homam

during Feint or vs very low eva opponents swap in Acuben's Helm, Justice Torque, STR ring, Forager's Mantle, Bomb Core.

EDIT: Actually, Justice Torque may well add more DoT than Tiercel since it's only giving a fraction of Haste...

If you're going for real low Eva mobs, Ire Torque or Ire Torque+1, +6STR/+7STR respectively.

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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-30 17:07:59  
Ah, good call. Forgot completely about those.
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By Sylph.Darkei 2010-06-02 19:13:20  
(sirocco in offhand)
Desultor haste+3 acc+7
Dakini acc+8 dex+4



25% haste
54 acc
+10 dex

I guess is the best dream tp set kusha and lava is opctional, Rajas + sniper/toreador is good too
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By Sylph.Ashaaman 2010-06-02 19:19:55  
If you're going with dream set ups, you missed Ancient Torque or even Love Torque. Also; If I remember right, I think it was proven that Rajas/7Acc Ring is better than Lava/Kusha. But don't ask for links because I'm not sure. And then if you throw in Rajas along with Brutal, you might as well toss in Skadi Legs as well.
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By Sylph.Darkei 2010-06-02 19:26:24  
ya I read too the kusha vs rajas/7 and yes I forget ancient/love and mandau xD
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