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 Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-20 22:30:04  
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Never said to give them the cold shoulder. So many things we could do other than bring possible risk to our country. Instead of being a bleeding heart why not try and find a way to relive their suffering everyone can agree upon?

Oh by all means please suggest a way.

I'm not the bleeding heart. Could start with safe zones within their own country though.
you've already bombed their country into rubble, it's not livable.

next idea.

Predictable jump to blame America
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-20 22:34:20  
Well he bears plenty of blame.
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By Cerberus.Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:34:41  
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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How does the US make that happen?? Not like we wave a magic wand.

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you've already bombed their country into rubble, it's not livable.

Nice talking with you reasonable people. /laugh

You didn't even do that, clown.

Predictable, jump to name calling.
 
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By Cerberus.Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:36:06  
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Josiahkf said: »
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Josiahkf said: »
you've already bombed their country into rubble, it's not livable.
Nice talking with you reasonable people. /laugh
you're right I should have said, "their country has already been bombed into rubble." to be more sensitive and proper; I didn't think you'd care about that.

Takes a reasonable person to know one. No wonder Alti doesn't think anyone is reasonable.

Point out a post that I am not being reasonable.
 
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By Cerberus.Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:38:06  
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Cerberus.Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Cerberus.Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
How does the US make that happen?? Not like we wave a magic wand.

Josiahkf said: »
you've already bombed their country into rubble, it's not livable.

Nice talking with you reasonable people. /laugh

You didn't even do that, clown.

Predictable, jump to name calling.

Don't be one then.

Fairly certain this is considered harassment.
 
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:40:02  
What? Could you at least make sense?
 
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:44:05  
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What? Could you at least make sense?

You were banned before, yes?

I was banned because a mod ninja-edited my post and I called him on it and his biased behavior. Not for breaking any rules.
 
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:45:00  
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Well he bears plenty of blame.
Far less blame than your last president though.

Still Bushes fault huh.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-11-20 22:45:57  
This is how this thread has felt

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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-20 22:48:14  
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We were stepping in the right direction before Obama stepped in and ruined everything with his disastrous foreign policy.

Oh really? What direction was that again?

Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
This is how this thread has felt

Its the altima effect.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-11-20 22:57:41  
Most of the attackers have been identified as European citizens meaning they could have relatively unfettered access to America. Meanwhile, the refugees we're talking about are scrutinized to the greatest degree of any other kind. There's much greater uncertainty associated with the former than the latter or hell even a greater uncertainty about Islamic terrorists or terrorist sympathizers being recruited from within the U.S.

So the threat to national security that Republicans want to limit the most is the one threat we potentially have the highest amount of control over? Is the simple fact that we're never 100% protected from these kind of senseless acts just that overbearing that the nearest scapegoat becomes the focus of unreasonable fears?
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 22:57:46  
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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Its the altima effect.

The "might as well lock the thread this is hopeless with no chance of a real dialogue" effect?

I've actually tried real dialogue with you a few times but you keep flailing around it.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-11-20 22:59:48  
Altimaomega said: »
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What? Could you at least make sense?

You were banned before, yes?

I was banned because a mod ninja-edited my post and I called him on it and his biased behavior. Not for breaking any rules.
Maybe you should ask another website for refuge since you're obviously a victim of persecution.
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 23:00:07  
Josiahkf said: »
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Josiahkf said: »
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Well he bears plenty of blame.
Far less blame than your last president though.

Still Bushes fault huh.
They both have made mistakes, however Bush just made more of them that brought us towards our current situation.

Do you consider this incorrect?

Yes, Terrorism was around before Bush. You guys act as if he created it. Obama pulled out of Iraq and numerous other horrible decisions that have led us down this rabbit hole.
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 23:01:08  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Altimaomega said: »
What? Could you at least make sense?

You were banned before, yes?

I was banned because a mod ninja-edited my post and I called him on it and his biased behavior. Not for breaking any rules.
Maybe you should ask another website for refuge since you're obviously a victim of persecution.

But who will argue with me about the sun having nothing to do with the climate of our planet then!
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By Altimaomega 2015-11-20 23:02:51  
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Idk, I hoped you actually say something instead of fishing me into saying something you can go on about.

Dude, all you have been doing is fishing. You have done nothing other than that. LoL!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-20 23:02:55  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Most of the attackers have been identified as European citizens meaning they could have relatively unfettered access to America. Meanwhile, the refugees we're talking about are scrutinized to the greatest degree of any other kind. There's much greater uncertainty associated with the former than the latter or hell even a greater uncertainty about Islamic terrorists or terrorist sympathizers being recruited from within the U.S.

So the threat to national security that Republicans want to limit the most is the one threat we potentially have the highest amount of control over? Is the simple fact that we're never 100% protected from these kind of senseless acts just that overbearing that the nearest scapegoat becomes the focus of unreasonable fears?

I have yet to see anyone put forward evidence based reasoning as to why our current refugee program is inadequate, much less in need of being halted. I know we aren't going to see said reasoning, but its amusing to watch both the conservatives on this site and on Capitol Hill pretend like there is a problem. Like I said on the first page, I am much more willing to talk about why our visa waiver program is a problem rather than our refugee system.
 
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