AGW Theory - Discussion

How did AGW turn into Scandinavia in WW2? ò_ò

How did AGW turn into Scandinavia in WW2? ò_ò

then how do you explain the US? the vast majority of our ancestors that immigrated here didn't have two nickels to rub together.

How did AGW turn into Scandinavia in WW2? ò_ò

How did AGW turn into Scandinavia in WW2? ò_ò

How did AGW turn into Scandinavia in WW2? ò_ò

The latest iteration is that CO2 will make everyone dumber!

Oxygen deprivation has no impact on cognitive functions, everyone knows it's just a liberal scam.

There you go again. You're not even trying, go back to bed.

Oh the next chapter in global warming will consist of flawed and bogus tie-ins to more ridiculous alarmism in order to jump start public panic again. The latest iteration is that CO2 will make everyone dumber!

And yet military studies that were focused more on human safety than an agenda used much higher concentrations of CO2 and didn't get the same results. Surprise! Not to mention the Harvard study tested CO2 levels higher than what glober worming is giving us, so I'm not sure why that was tied in to begin with.

But most do not get their history from books. They get their history from movies and TV.

Scandinavia has been totally ignored by WWII movies.

And yet military studies that were focused more on human safety than an agenda used much higher concentrations of CO2 and didn't get the same results. Surprise! Not to mention the Harvard study tested CO2 levels higher than what glober worming is giving us, so I'm not sure why that was tied in to begin with.

Maybe Gore is just paving his way into the home ventilation industry.

Move over tool time Al Gore is the new Bob Villa!

<assorted humorous grunting>

Er, it wasn't tied in to the study. Concentrations of CO2 in buildings (or enclosed areas) is often driven by habitation and poor ventilation/air exchange, and has been used as a measure of indoor air quality and air exchange (EN 15251 springs to mind).

The tie-in is implied in the tweet from Al Gore. Which may be accurate, but it kind of overshadows the fact that good building/home ventilation (and removing the presence/use of non volatile organic compounds) has some impacts.

I took a moment to read into it more. The article sucked, but looking at the actual study cleared things up. I'm curious about the discrepancies between it and the military studies, but I guess we can depend on Gore and the "Al"armists to take something completely out of context and exploit it.

Weren't you an architect? Isn't it kinda your job to know these things?

I do, it's sort of linked to something called "sick building syndrome". But that bears no relevance in Gore & co's desperate attempt to get AGW in front of the news cycle again.

"Sound the alarm! Global warming is going to make you stupid!"

Do you always start chugging any drink as long as someone calls it kool-aid?

No?
The ThinkProgress article Gore referenced is somewhat alarmist, but that isn't the paper that was published. The article makes a rather invalid point (we should keep CO2 as low as possible), but also does make a pertinent one (we don't really know well what minimum concentration is required to have an impact, nor have the understanding behind why).

A new scientific study says extremely rapidly warming waters off the New England coast have had a severe consequence — the collapse of a cod fishery that saw too many catches, even as overall cod numbers declined because of warmer seas.

It’s just the latest in a series of findings and occurrences — ranging from gigantic snows in Boston earlier last winter, which scientists partly linked with warm seas, to a sudden and “extreme” sea level rise event in 2009-2010 — suggesting that this particular stretch of water is undergoing profound changes.

“[In] 2004 to 2013, we ended up warming faster than really any other marine ecosystem has ever experienced over a 10 year period,” said Andrew Pershing of the Gulf of Maine Research Institute, lead author of the new study just out in the journal Science....

“[In] 2004 to 2013, we ended up warming faster than really any other marine ecosystem has ever experienced over a 10 year period,” ...

The paper reports that during the decade-long period in question, the Gulf of Maine, the ocean region extending from Cape Cod northeast to the southern tip of Nova Scotia, warmed up by a truly stunning 0.41 degrees Fahrenheit per year. That’s faster warming than occurred in 99.9 percent of the rest of the world ocean, the scientists say.

What’s most intriguing is what is causing the dramatically warm waters — and how this may relate to other observed changes in the region.

Clearly, part of the cause is the overall ocean warming trend that has been seen around the globe due to climate change. But at the same time, the researchers say, the warm and salty Gulf Stream has moved northward more throughout the last century — a change that also has been linked to a warming climate but for more complex reasons. In late 2011, in fact, there was a dramatic northward movement that led to the warming of some New England lobster traps by more than 6 degrees Celsius, or over 10 degrees Fahrenheit.

Among other factors, the northward shift of the Gulf Stream appears tied to a larger change in Atlantic ocean circulation — the slowing of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, which carries warm surface water northward and cold water southward at depth and is driven by differences in temperature and salinity of these waters.

Here are the effects of too much CO2, it's called hypercapnia. We already know what happens when we expose humans to X Y Z levels of co2 gasses.

MRI
The hypercapnic state is routinely used to calibrate blood-oxygen-level dependent functional magnetic resonance imaging (BOLD fMRI), a modality that is sensitive to changes in blood oxygenation. However, this calibration crucially relies on the assumption that hypercapnia has no effect on neuronal function, which is a matter of debate.[17]

Still no proof of Global warming yet huh.. Well damn, guess I just went solar/wind to save money then. Imagine if they made it even more efficient and cheaper to get off the grid instead of wasting all the time and energy fear mongering people while pushing for regulations that will hurt whats left of the economy.

Still no proof of Global warming yet huh.. Well damn, guess I just went solar/wind to save money then. Imagine if they made it even more efficient and cheaper to get off the grid instead of wasting all the time and energy fear mongering people while pushing for regulations that will hurt whats left of the economy.

Welcome back.

Surprising amount of sense in that post. Just leave out the first sentence.

Still no proof of Global warming yet huh.. Well damn, guess I just went solar/wind to save money then. Imagine if they made it even more efficient and cheaper to get off the grid instead of wasting all the time and energy fear mongering people while pushing for regulations that will hurt whats left of the economy.