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Military Parade - A DD Bard Guide
Lakshmi.Buukki
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-30 13:55:39
Because it's a single item, it doesn't conflict with other items in that slot (well, NQ I guess lol) and because it's just 19m with no quests, no trials, no chores, nothing to do about it.
You just buy it and it's ready, 30 seconds?
Right, so it's the same priority for potency either way. If it's "easy", he can get it anytime, including later too. His Bard isn't ready to use right now, so what sense does it make to prioritize an expensive neck piece for a job that's not ready to be used? He could invest it into the mats to buy Relic and get by with a NQ whistle too in the meantime, it's all the same. Relic's cheap to make and can be done in a few hours, with some trials in between. It's not a "Whistle is more priority than Ghorn", its still one potency difference if you go +3 Linos & HQ Whistle or Ghorn & NQ whistle. They're equally both important
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Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-03-30 14:01:47
It's not a "Whistle is more priority than Ghorn" It is, for me.
But I find it more than acceptable if you disagree!
Let's say both present a perfectly acceptable option in the same slot that is -1 potency compared to HQ neck and Ghorn.
I don't think either is particularly relevant (altough if you go that route for both slots it becomes potency-2 not -1, which is still okay imho, buuuut you get what I mean).
So what's the difference? The difference is that Neck, even the HQ, is pretty cheap imho, and it's literally ready the second you get it, no trials, nothing.
With that said if the guy has limited funds and goes to 0 gil or close to that after a few things, then by all means go for the NQ neck and you won't regret it, can always re-sell it on AH and buy HQ whenever he gets more gil!
Lakshmi.Buukki
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-30 14:13:32
Generally speaking, it's not a bad thing to take shortcuts while gearing to get the job "Ready". I don't mind buying a Su4 for like RUN because the Su5 (although better) is really a minor improvement to a niche role that doesn't necessarily impact anyone else's performance. Still, with gearing, there does need to be a standard for what is considered job "Ready". For Bard, I believe the consensus among most players is you're expected to have REMA weapons for Bard (which does include the whistle too, even if not explicitly mentioned. Prime is the exception, except for elite groups
My counter point to your priority list is, if -1 potency is indistinguishable to the naked eye to 90% of the people, when does that train stop? Is -2 indistinguishable? Is +7 potency Geomancy noticeable vs +10? If you tell him to take a shortcut in gearing by doing Ghorn later, because almost nobody will notice -1 potency, why by that logic is the extra potency from HQ whistle a higher priority on the list for Bard? Because he can get it sooner and have it checked off his list? That doesn't make it any more important than the Ghorn, he's still below the standard.
Now if what we are saying is -2 is fine, then make +3 Linos and buy NQ whistle, get Terpander and pop CC every time you need a 4th song, then I guess that's "Ready" too. I don't see the priority thing as this or that. I feel like Ghorn is equally as important to BRD as the whistle. And I'm not an elitist-mindset kind of person, but I also don't want to start down the path of shortcuts for BRD when I normally don't see other people view it that way. Unless they are OK with it, that's another story.
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Cerberus.Igluni
By Cerberus.Igluni 2026-03-30 14:30:22
can't believe i'm seeing +3 linos being suggested in 2026 !
my 2 cents: you'll make the horn eventually anyway.
to answer OP, if you want to gear BRD, i suggest to go all out. it's a lot but that's when the job gets fun anyway. you will be rewarded with probably the most useful job in the game in 99% of situations.
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By Dodik 2026-03-30 14:34:16
Generally order of upgrades is easiest first and grind away at the hardest along the way.
By the time you grind/buy enough alex for a mythic or metal for empy, you will get lots of stuff for a horn.
It is, other than the neck, one of the easiest potency upgrades you can get. To my mind there is no argument on not doing it, why would you ever not want that.
By paladinepsot 2026-03-30 15:53:24
Can you explain why Moonbow Whistle +1 is a priority over Gjallarhorn, if, as you say:
The other factor here is Whistle boosts Honor March, whereas horn does not.
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By Asura.Disciplinedmace 2026-04-19 13:55:48
Hello. If soloing on bard for whatever reason and fighting anything where the mob has high hp is using Aeneas doing radiance/umbra worth it for damage or is naegling/cento or twash/cento better for damage?
If so can you list the correct skillchain combinations for radiance and umbra?
thanks
Edit: Would you still use cento offhand for aeneas?
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-04-19 19:11:57
I've never been impressed with aeneas on BRD, THF or DNC. You could try it out but exenterator is trash so the SCs will be (at least partially) terrible too.
When solo and doing SC, I prefer Mordant- Mordant- evisceration- rudra's for double darkness. Evisceration isn't the best, but it makes for pretty strong overall damage. I typically do this with carnwenhan for increased TP rate and Mordant damage, though twashtar would also be pretty good, if you can still pull it off.
As to whether that's faster than naegling or aeneas, I'm not sure. I don't truly solo on BRD, really. Just my experience from stuff like segs, sortie, Limbus, etc.
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By Asura.Disciplinedmace 2026-04-19 22:19:01
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »I've never been impressed with aeneas on BRD, THF or DNC. You could try it out but exenterator is trash so the SCs will be (at least partially) terrible too.
When solo and doing SC, I prefer Mordant- Mordant- evisceration- rudra's for double darkness. Evisceration isn't the best, but it makes for pretty strong overall damage. I typically do this with carnwenhan for increased TP rate and Mordant damage, though twashtar would also be pretty good, if you can still pull it off.
As to whether that's faster than naegling or aeneas, I'm not sure. I don't truly solo on BRD, really. Just my experience from stuff like segs, sortie, Limbus, etc.
Thanks for the reply. Just 1 more question though. Offhand centovente or crepuscular Knife for that skillchain combination you mentioned: mordant to mordant to evisceration to rudra?
Thanks.
By paladinepsot 2026-04-19 22:56:05
Asura.Disciplinedmace said: »Thanks for the reply. Just 1 more question though. Offhand centovente or crepuscular Knife for that skillchain combination you mentioned: mordant to mordant to evisceration to rudra?
Thanks.
Mordant doesn't increase in damage with additional TP, and evisceration only gets additional crit chance with additional TP, so those two are better served with a crep or gleti's knife. Rudras, though, does scale very well with TP.
Accuracy is a consideration, too, because cent isn't iLvl and doesn't get the massive bonuses that iLvl weapons would normally get, so it can be a big reduction in TP gain to use it unless you have accuracy accounted for.
Ultimately the damage will be higher with cent, but you may be closing less 4-steps to get that damage boost.
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