Are Men Going Their Own Way? (MGTOW)

Btw, I bet 10 cookies this is Altima again in his third incarnation.

Who, the OP? Can't be, this guy registered in 2009.

Yea, but it's on a server that no longer exists(Hades). His only other post was also in 2015, and also a topic that sounds like Altima. On top of that, Altima's original character was on hades before it was forcefully merged with cerberus.

Sounds like he had an old mule account registered on hades years ago and hopped onto that to post when his main stopped being believable.

WTF is this crap?

I believe it is a topic on an internet forum but I"m not sure !

So what is this in response to, as it has to be in response if it has a title like "going your own way". That would necessitate parting from some "prior way".

Is it in response to feeling shame as a man? For not living up to societal expectations or not wanting to or seeing fault in them? Is it in response to not being able to both be yourself and find a person who will love you for that and start a family with you for that?

If it's any of those things, then you're just under false pretenses. Society has a bunch of *** gender roles. They aren't good for humanity and never have been, they served a function, and have served it pretty badly for thousands of years. It worked, in the same way a man with no legs can crawl from destination to destination. It is far from ideal. You as a person can subscribe to and feel shamed by these societal markers, or you can live your own life and not give a ***about them and realize most of them are a reflection of your own guilt and shame and feeling of inadequacy. We all need love, but this is not any way to go about getting it. You have to accept yourself as you are first, before another person ever will. And despite what you think most of society doesn't give a damn if you're some "alpha male". That is entirely your own ego speaking and need to be loved speaking. Male power fantasy and women that idealize it are very very few, except among those severely lacking in self esteem or validation and love, though I will admit there is the odd ball out there who likes it. And no one doesn't love power.

If you can accept yourself as you are, and have confidence in that, then someone else will too. If you let society shame you and define you, then it will. No matter who you are, or what you have or haven't accomplished. The ego will ever struggle against the group. That is part of what being human is. The shitty part of all this, is you don't need a formal movement or ideology like this to make that happen. That will lead to self harm more than anything, confirmation bias and an echo chamber do no one any good. Putting yourself out there, finding the truth for yourself, and loving yourself are what matter and the only thing that will fix your ailment. An echo chamber for your own ideas amongst people with similar affliction and aggressive idealism will wind you up in a loony bin however if you're not careful. You get stronger by exposing yourself to more ideas, not less.

This seems like a lot of words to say "Don't be a pussy, be a man"

I don't know how to put it nicely so I'll just say, no. Because what you said is drawing from the same "be a man, men are tough and aren't pussies" dialog OP has found so unhelpful his whole life. I'm saying just start the path to loving yourself, and then someone else will, and don't give in to surrounding yourself with people that just agree with you because it will hurt instead of help. Any path in life, if built to avoid something hard or suffering, will end in much more suffering and hardship than seeing the entire picture and picking the path that is best for you. That's the only part that I can relate to what you said. OP has to face some unpleasant things to make their life better. But so does anyone. He only is defined by societies gender roles if he himself subscribes to them and most of society doesn't actually give a damn though many use it as a crutch for self confidence, any crutch no matter if it has societies stamp of approval or not is a good thing.

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The MRA in my opinion showed up a little too late to the scene and aren't going to win any ground. We've moved way to far away from any form of an egalitarian society to be able to have any effect on society through traditional political and social movements. Short of a U-turn, there's no rights movement that can correct this mess. Its like a "whites' rights" movement - there is so much negative stigma attached to any white cry for fairness due to a history of horrible white supremacist organizations like the KKK and the Neo Nazis that if a valid and sound white movement manifested today, they would have to spend 90% of their time convincing everyone else they aren't for white supremacy, but equality. Such is so for the MRA - males are so tarnished and looked down upon by society as a whole that any male movement for equality is branded in the feminist loving media as a patriarchy and female oppression.

Besides for making babies both sex's are the same.

MGTOW is a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE movement. You don't have to avoid women entirely to recognize that men's rights are being ***on at every turn or become a men's rights activist. A straight male voluntarily ignoring all women is hurting nobody but themselves, and failing to get any real point across besides how jaded they are.

Fairly sure some the stuff i read/watched on it said there is MGTOW with men who still have and seek sex and that's it.

My thought's, I support true feminism, and I support a male version. it's the people way off to the side, the radical feminist (or male version) are just rediculous examples of people we should just wriite off.

That's all that feminism truly means jassik, equal rights for both sexes.

Misogyny is hatred or prejudiced contempt for women.
Misandry is hatred or prejudiced contempt for men.

The only reason we don't use the term humanism more commonly than feminism is because that refers moreso to a non-theistic life stance and looking towards science for solutions as a species instead of directly countering Misogyny and Misandry.