The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide (v2)

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 Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-05-14 01:21:49  
I don't remember the pos but it's in wohgates map2 (you access it from Marjami Ravine, close to Biv #3, just south of it) but it's in the south/west part of the map, in a big room where you also pop an Hyppogryph NM that drops Highwing Helm.
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By Asura.Shiraiyuki 2015-05-14 01:48:08  
Um....
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By Asura.Shiraiyuki 2015-05-14 01:56:38  
Aye, and from what I've read from the update notes they've also increased the Astral Flow JP cat. from +3 to +5 per JP.
Which means capping it adds +50 to every stat on your avatar under Astral Flow.
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-05-14 02:49:35  
In before it's damage +3 and not 3% lol
Btw 2 new items for SMN (ignoring Augments, since we don't know them yet)

Head with SMN skill+15 and Belt with SMN skill+5, Blood Boon+5 and Perp-2.
With this belt and some reforged AF3 pieces I think we can cap perpetuance without using the weapon slot. Which means non-nirvana user can finally create a melee oriented Keraunos.

The Avatar Perp bonus was in the same slot as pet Haste.
Nobody will care in here probably, but it's a nice option for non Nirvana SMNs.
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By Sylph.Gutsu 2015-05-14 02:52:36  
I see another category there that says increased avatar magic damage...wow cant wait to log in and check this out. My smn already has 93% increased damage and 103% with 1hour. Can't wait to log in and start getting some cp. I knew i should have stored up some.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2015-05-14 03:21:55  
It's not a %. With 10/10 JPs and no BP DMG gear Zantetsuken does 10029.
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-05-14 03:26:49  
As expected =/ It's like the silly Waltz Potency and Cure Potency JP categories for DNC and WHM.
Honestly no JP is as powerful as that for any job, were we really expecting a 30% + BP damage?
Heh...

Silly us for actually believing that =/
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By Asura.Crevox 2015-05-14 03:48:19  
So what are the rest of the gifts then?

Either way, this update so far has diminished my desire to play.
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By Asura.Shiraiyuki 2015-05-14 04:45:58  
Asura.Crevox said: »
So what are the rest of the gifts then?

Most noteworthy: +8 Summoning magic skill at 445 and the +1 Favor level increase at 550.
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-05-14 09:02:18  
SMN goodies for this update. Source: BG Wiki

Nibiru Staff
DMG:208 Delay:366 INT+19 MND+19 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+38 Magic Damage+217 Staff skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +228 "Fast Cast"+4% Pet: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+110

Psycloth Tiara
DEF:94 HP+36 MP+32 STR+18 DEX+18 VIT+18 AGI+18 INT+26 MND+26 CHR+23 Evasion+36 Magic Evasion+75 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Summoning magic skill +15 Haste+6% Enmity-6 Avatar: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+20

Psycloth Manillas
DEF:81 HP+22 MP+14 STR+6 DEX+28 VIT+25 AGI+5 INT+25 MND+33 CHR+19 Magic Accuracy+17 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+17 Evasion+22 Magic Evasion+37 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Elemental magic skill +20 Haste+3% Avatar: Magic Accuracy+20

Psycloth Lappas
DEF:101 HP+43 MP+29 STR+25 VIT+12 AGI+17 INT+40 MND+30 CHR+19 Magic Accuracy+20 Evasion+27 Magic Evasion+107 "Magic Def. Bonus"+6 Enfeebling magic skill +18 Haste+5% Pet: Damage taken -4%

Psycloth Shoes
DEF:66 HP+13 MP+74 STR+10 DEX+11 VIT+10 AGI+33 INT+17 MND+19 CHR+34 Evasion+55 Magic Evasion+107 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Haste+3% Avatar: Accuracy+20 Attack+20 "Double Attack"+3%

Lucidity Sash
DEF:5 Summoning magic skill +7 "Blood Boon"+5 Avatar perpetuation cost -2

Empath Necklace
Accuracy+10 Pet: Accuracy+10 Ranged Accuracy+10 Attack+5 Ranged Attack+10 "Regen"+1

Penetrating Cape
DEF:17 Attack+20 Pet: Attack+20 Ranged Attack+20 "Store TP"+4 Haste+2%

In other words: A staff that exists, some situational alternatives to Augmented Helios and NEW ACCESSORIES!

A belt to replace my Cimmerian Sash by 2 Smn. Skill with the added Perp-2 and an extra 2 Blood Boon for those who had Diabolos's Rope.

A necklace to add some Accuracy to Physical Blood Pacts instead of using Sacrifice Torque.

A cape to add 8 more Attack for physical Blood Pacts compared to Argochampsa Mantle and some Haste for additional Avatar DPS.
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By jopa 2015-05-14 09:14:13  
Empath Necklace also nice for avatar idle sets if you don't need pet TP.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-05-14 09:39:23  
Ragnarok.Garota said: »
SMN goodies for this update. Source: BG Wiki

Nibiru Staff
DMG:208 Delay:366 INT+19 MND+19 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+38 Magic Damage+217 Staff skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +228 "Fast Cast"+4% Pet: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+110

Psycloth Tiara
DEF:94 HP+36 MP+32 STR+18 DEX+18 VIT+18 AGI+18 INT+26 MND+26 CHR+23 Evasion+36 Magic Evasion+75 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Summoning magic skill +15 Haste+6% Enmity-6 Avatar: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+20

Psycloth Manillas
DEF:81 HP+22 MP+14 STR+6 DEX+28 VIT+25 AGI+5 INT+25 MND+33 CHR+19 Magic Accuracy+17 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+17 Evasion+22 Magic Evasion+37 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Elemental magic skill +20 Haste+3% Avatar: Magic Accuracy+20

Psycloth Lappas
DEF:101 HP+43 MP+29 STR+25 VIT+12 AGI+17 INT+40 MND+30 CHR+19 Magic Accuracy+20 Evasion+27 Magic Evasion+107 "Magic Def. Bonus"+6 Enfeebling magic skill +18 Haste+5% Pet: Damage taken -4%

Psycloth Shoes
DEF:66 HP+13 MP+74 STR+10 DEX+11 VIT+10 AGI+33 INT+17 MND+19 CHR+34 Evasion+55 Magic Evasion+107 "Magic Def. Bonus"+5 Haste+3% Avatar: Accuracy+20 Attack+20 "Double Attack"+3%

Lucidity Sash
DEF:5 Summoning magic skill +7 "Blood Boon"+5 Avatar perpetuation cost -2

Empath Necklace
Accuracy+10 Pet: Accuracy+10 Ranged Accuracy+10 Attack+5 Ranged Attack+10 "Regen"+1

Penetrating Cape
DEF:17 Attack+20 Pet: Attack+20 Ranged Attack+20 "Store TP"+4 Haste+2%

In other words: A staff that exists, some situational alternatives to Augmented Helios and NEW ACCESSORIES!

A belt to replace my Cimmerian Sash by 2 Smn. Skill with the added Perp-2 and an extra 2 Blood Boon for those who had Diabolos's Rope.

A necklace to add some Accuracy to Physical Blood Pacts instead of using Sacrifice Torque.

A cape to add 8 more Attack for physical Blood Pacts compared to Argochampsa Mantle and some Haste for additional Avatar DPS.

These look pretty good, mostly for the slight benefits you mentioned. It's nice to know the millions we spent on Helios augments aren't completely flushed down the toilet (yet).
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-05-14 09:43:22  
Well, no clue whether or not Psycloth armor set will be augmentable or not. If it is, maybe it'll follow either Delve path format or Skirmish random format.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-05-14 09:44:24  
Delve format.
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-05-14 09:48:53  
Any clue what the augment paths are yet? If that's so, most likely means there will only be one piece of armor with one path which won't even be worth a damn for Summoners.
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By Odin.Shaggnix 2015-05-15 11:29:30  
Looking for clarification/confirmation on Keraunos vs Nirvana. My understanding is nirvana wins but not by much... usually... sometimes Keraunos is better... I think?
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By Asura.Shiraiyuki 2015-05-15 15:34:19  
For magic pacts the Keraunos may have an advantage depending on your gearset. Damage wise, but for high level content the +2 avatar levels may give you an advantage MACC wise.
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By Lunareticc 2015-05-15 16:39:19  
I had the psycloth head and the augment possible for the summoner:
Type A: MP+10
Type B: Macc. +1 Spell Interruption Rate Down 1%
Type C: Pet: Attack +11, MAB +1 for start augment
Type D: Mag. Acc. +2 Fast Cast +3
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-05-15 16:42:31  
Lunareticc said: »
I had the psycloth head and the augment possible for the summoner:
Pet: Attack +11, MAB +1 for start augment.

Where did you get the Psycloth piece?
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By Lunareticc 2015-05-15 16:59:52  
On the Marlboro, I do not remember the name (.. Vine)
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2015-05-18 09:35:20  
Asura.Sechs said: »
As expected =/ It's like the silly Waltz Potency and Cure Potency JP categories for DNC and WHM.
Honestly no JP is as powerful as that for any job, were we really expecting a 30% + BP damage?
Heh...

Silly us for actually believing that =/

Depends on what you mean by expecting it. Would I expect SE to screw us over like this? Yes. Would I expect that they should give us the 30% boost? Yes.
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-05-18 20:28:06  
I really dont understand WHY they think that +30 DMG would be of ANY use to us AT ALL. Theyre really stupid.
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By Phoenix.Elizabet 2015-05-18 21:32:36  
Phoenix.Rumblepakk said: »
I really dont understand WHY they think that +30 DMG would be of ANY use to us AT ALL. Theyre really stupid.

Always depends where its applied in the formula, and with SE, we never know what the verbose used actually means. If for example, that 30dmg is like an extra +30 base weapon dmg for the avatar when calculating BP dmg then it's quite significant.
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By Phoenix.Rumblepakk 2015-05-18 22:11:49  
Well for now thatll be the last JP category i finish!
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-05-19 08:37:19  
Luna, I'd like to recommend linking the FFXI AH stack price for foods rather than the BG wiki. If it's not asking for too much. :) Thanks.
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-05-19 08:49:06  
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Asura.Sechs said: »
As expected =/ It's like the silly Waltz Potency and Cure Potency JP categories for DNC and WHM.
Honestly no JP is as powerful as that for any job, were we really expecting a 30% + BP damage?
Heh...

Silly us for actually believing that =/

Depends on what you mean by expecting it. Would I expect SE to screw us over like this? Yes. Would I expect that they should give us the 30% boost? Yes.
Well Camiie, I'm not arguing that +30 damage is PREPOSTEROUS (wonder if it gets added before the BP% bonus? Anybody testd?), nobody would dare to argue that.
But for a Job Point category +30% damage bonus would be way too much, c'mon... let's be honest and admit it.
Not saying I wouldn't like it, but I don't think there is any other single JP category that grants a 30% straight damage boost.
99.9% of JP categories give minimal boosts to the respective jobs.
Some are so minimal they disappear, some other are still somewhat relevant, but I don't think you'll find anything giving that much to any job. (30%)
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By Lunareticc 2015-05-19 09:05:47  
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Luna, I'd like to recommend linking the FFXI AH stack price for foods rather than the BG wiki. If it's not asking for too much. :) Thanks.
Done ^^
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By Ragnarok.Garota 2015-05-19 09:15:31  
Sweet thanks. Makes shopping so much quicker. :)
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