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 Ragnarok.Orlind
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By Ragnarok.Orlind 2015-03-23 08:59:04  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Giving up the development for the console/PC version FFXI and go for the mobile version was probably not his decision.
Not that, that is just a consequence of FFXI becoming not profitable enough, which happened because of the SoA bleed.

There were indications that S-E was something developing mobile for FFXI even before SoA to try to cash in. The bleed probably just gave them more ammo to get it done sooner.
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By Sylph.Pancakesandsx 2015-03-23 09:07:23  
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-23 09:11:13  
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When people on bg joked last week

Ah, yes. Because the BG forums have always been the yardstick for cooler heads and reason.
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By Bahamut.Darksouls 2015-03-23 09:24:34  
signed
 Lakshmi.Lenus
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By Lakshmi.Lenus 2015-03-23 09:32:37  
They should bring back Tanaka to keep this game going tbh, even if it means 5 more years of abyssea.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2015-03-23 09:52:16  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Doubt anything will happen, but signed since it's not like it cost me effort or anything.
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By Carbuncle.Rasalgethi 2015-03-23 09:56:40  
Signed, even if I actualy think SE never said they will stop FFXI but only close the main story chapter, and keep in their mind the door open for next update in case the community ask them.
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By Lakshmi.Leosin 2015-03-23 09:59:57  
Signed with pride.
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By leo 2015-03-23 10:07:55  
Signed, as well
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2015-03-23 10:09:04  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
XI is a successful 13 year old MMO that has reached the decline phase in its lifespan and you're surprised it's getting canned? Cmon, the game has declined so badly, some servers can barely sustain a few hundred online at any given time.


Lineage was released in 1998 and it's still alive(in Korea), Everquest was released in 1999 and it's still alive. Just because the game is old doesn't mean it's not profitable.

But the thing is, profitability isn't always enough. Sometimes a product just doesn't meet the "corporate vision" or an exec has a pet project he thinks is a better use of resources.

I'm sure they actually are still making a profit even with the dwindling server pops, but it's just not enough to justify continued support of the game when they feel they could do better elsewhere.

I can't really disagree with that assessment, but I do heartily disagree with their chosen direction. This mobile MMO venture will flop harder than XIV 1.0. The only saving grace is, it won't be as huge an investment as XIV was. It will burn them though, and I can't say I'll have much sympathy for them when it does.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-23 10:15:43  
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
XI is a successful 13 year old MMO that has reached the decline phase in its lifespan and you're surprised it's getting canned? Cmon, the game has declined so badly, some servers can barely sustain a few hundred online at any given time.


Lineage was released in 1998 and it's still alive(in Korea), Everquest was released in 1999 and it's still alive. Just because the game is old doesn't mean it's not profitable.

XI has always been a rather small playerbase MMO that thrived because that base was batshit hardcore. When the game eased up and changed what kept people playing the first place, the core was broken and you have what exists now.

XI never had a chance to pickup softcore subs because this game approached EVE levels of being inaccessible to newbies. The combination of breaking the LS dynamic coupled with everything being easy/trivial/ilvl type situations ended it for XI. I'd also throw in some major missteps on SEs fault *coughFFXIVcough*

SE wouldn't be ending updates if they didn't see huge losses at present or in the future. Better to let subs bleed out until the eventual one server / plug pulled scenario. Mobile games are big in JP so starting the game 'anew' sounds better than dragging a decaying corpse.
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By Shiva.Alistaire 2015-03-23 10:30:52  
That's a joke petition right? It's at 182 signatures right now, about on par with what I'd expect...but the worst part:

They have their goal set at 200 signatures.

200.

So someone sat down and went "How many people do you think SE will need to hear are in support of this idea to go ahead with it?" And came up with 200.

200k would be a low # for what they want.
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By Odin.Tamoa 2015-03-23 10:34:50  
When I signed, the goal was 100 signatures. Probably goes up for every 100 signatures.
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By Siren.Kuz 2015-03-23 10:35:17  
The 5 Stages of Loss and Grief

1. Denial and Isolation
Maybe it's just an April Fools Day joke?
I'm sure after they drop PS2 and Xbox support and focus on PC we'll see more updates.
I'm not leaving. I'm not giving up

2. Anger
WHY would they do this to us after all these years of service?
I've played on PS2 and Xbox, now I HAVE to buy a PC?
I just joined the game on console, I hope they refund my money!
What am I going to do now?
*** FFXIV, it ruined FFXI. they're just trying to force us to play it now!

3. Bargaining
I made a change.org campaign to keep the game alive!!!!

4. Depression
End of an era
Where will you log out?

5. Acceptance

Man... I'm holding out for the acceptance threads...
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 Lakshmi.Sparthosx
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-23 10:35:21  
Change.org is a joke. But I didn't want to be that guy.
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By Cerberus.Mitsukai 2015-03-23 10:42:58  
FFXI isn't going anywhere, they simply said they're going to be done making new content. Servers aren't going anywhere (yet).
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2015-03-23 10:47:37  
Siren.Kuz said: »
5. Acceptance

Man... I'm holding out for the acceptance threads...

FFXI replacement MMO
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By leo 2015-03-23 10:47:50  
The text in Japanese requests that contents production is not suspended.
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By Elazar1 2015-03-23 10:54:25  
Signed!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-03-23 10:54:56  
Shiva.Alistaire said: »
200k would be a low # for what they want.
There aren't 200k FFXI players anymore.
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By Asura.Womwom 2015-03-23 11:00:11  
Signed, even if people think it is futile. At least I can say I put my voice in.
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By Lye 2015-03-23 11:27:34  
This should be posted on major forums for other games under the title:

"You don't want more n00bs right? Sign this petition so they'll stay away from our _____ (EQ,WOW,FF14,LoL,etc)!
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-23 11:28:03  
SE has developed this game into the ground. Get the devs away from it.
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By volkom 2015-03-23 11:31:26  
Odin.Jassik said: »
SE has developed this game into the ground.

Its the players/gamers fault
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-23 11:32:54  
or is it the devs fault for listening to the players?!?!?
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By volkom 2015-03-23 11:39:29  
I'm going to say its a bit of both.

They made a game that was never been done before (cross platform/shared server mmo etc.) and kept it going for quite a long time and continuously developed it. Some game design decisions were iffy but if you step back and take a look at what the game offers, its pretty awesome.
One of the few mmo's that offers long term goals, keeps old gear relevant (to an extent), has fairly embedded social interaction which a lot of other games/mmo's seem to lack. etc.

I blame the playerbase too because of how a lot of gamers are these days. Wanting instant gratification, ez mode challenges etc.
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By Asura.Taidis 2015-03-23 11:51:15  
So there's a lot of bitching and moaning on Guildwork about how FFXI is now making SE a loss but does anyone actually know the figures for FFXI, is it actually making a loss?

No point me asking guildwork as there's a lot of nonsense being posted.

EDIT: Fumbles is a very angry man.
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2015-03-23 11:54:39  
Siren.Kuz said: »
The 5 Stages of Loss and Grief

1. Denial and Isolation
Maybe it's just an April Fools Day joke?
I'm sure after they drop PS2 and Xbox support and focus on PC we'll see more updates.
I'm not leaving. I'm not giving up

2. Anger
WHY would they do this to us after all these years of service?
I've played on PS2 and Xbox, now I HAVE to buy a PC?
I just joined the game on console, I hope they refund my money!
What am I going to do now?
*** FFXIV, it ruined FFXI. they're just trying to force us to play it now!

3. Bargaining
I made a change.org campaign to keep the game alive!!!!

4. Depression
End of an era
Where will you log out?

5. Acceptance

Man... I'm holding out for the acceptance threads...


Everything about your post and your avatar made my morning at the office that much better. Thank you.
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By Siren.Kuz 2015-03-23 11:58:29  
Asura.Taidis said: »
So there's a lot of bitching and moaning on Guildwork about how FFXI is now making SE a loss but does anyone actually know the figures for FFXI, is it actually making a loss?

Is it on the feed? I unsubscribed for the #ffxi feed a long time ago due to it hurting my *** head.


Bismarck.Gippali said: »
Everything about your post and your avatar made my morning at the office that much better. Thank you.

It's what I do :D
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-23 12:04:11  
Asura.Taidis said: »
does anyone actually know the figures for FFXI, is it actually making a loss?

SE knows, & they're not going to tell you.
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