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So you admit your comment was stupid? Fair enough for me, that was my whole point to begin with.

So your solution is to toss millions of dollars of tax payer money so poor people can have safe sex because sex is some inalienable right because of urges?

And your argument/solution is to tell people that instead of having sex the way they want to they should have sex the way you want them to.

You admitted yourself your attempt at an argument was stupid as well. Dont act like you got a win because you did not.

Welp there goes tax breaks and roads.

I'm still wondering where these people are that can't afford any type of contraceptive. Gotta rule out anyone who buys alcohol or smokes, because it's not the fault of the taxpayers that people can't manage their own vice budget.

Uh, I didn't admit that, unless you have a reading comprehension problem. Oh wait....

It's called an investment. Spend x millions today on safe sex campaigns so you don't spend y millions on children tied up in the system.

Also reduces pesky things like backroom abortions, sex trafficking, prison populations and crime. All for the cost of Lifestyles flooding your offices with excess inventory. In terms of government expenditures you're looking at the shallow end of the pool here.

Nope.

My argument is if you can't afford to have sex the way you want, the government should not be wasting tax payer money so you can have the way you want it. This isn't Burger King.

Instead wait until you can afford it thus allowing the pursuit of happiness to continue.

It's wishful thinking at best.

And your solution still has the government on the tab for those children now pulling down welfare. Now unchecked because apparently a sex education campaign was too high a cost to bear.

No, apparently your shoddily worded response confused even you.

Congratulations on reading comprehension.

Thus you repeat what i just said, you dont want them to have it your way, you want them to have it your way.

I don't even know how much condoms cost... what like $5 for a pack of 54. (this link, lol: http://www.condomdepot.com/product/catalog.cfm/nid/898)

If you can't afford $5 every 54 times you need to have sex, where are living? A cardboard box? Are you drinking water from the Hudson river?

I think we're talking about two entirely different groups of people. You have to live in some kind of dwelling to collect welfare.

Enuyasha, you said people in poverty should not procreate, followed by reasoning that was completely false. That is not only beyond stupid, it shows a horrible lack of understanding of what it means to be in poverty. There, is that simple enough for you to understand?

You really underestimate things like access to a computer, a debit card to make a purchase and stable address to pick up said package. You know, simple things that are issues for poor people. We're still talking poor people right? And not suburbia, USA yea?

Also, teenagers. You know, the ones that aren't going to order a box of condoms to mom 'n dads house. It's about access and oppurtunity, not any possible way you conjure up to get condoms.

People want to ***.
People often don't think of consequences.
Access to sex education and tools for safe sex have been shown to mitigate the adverse effects of unprotected sex.
Condoms are cheap. (for gummint)
Governments have a responsibility to point citizens in the right direction with regards to health.
We're not going bankrupt because Lifestyles has decided to donate / market their products via municipal handouts.

Infact it's beneficial for a company to do so. Brand loyalty and all.

So what's the argument here? Pesky liberals acknowledge sex happens and have free tools available? You guys get this worked up when government has small business workshops/advisers on hand to help you start a company?

I MEAN TAKE A *** COMMUNITY COLLEGE COURSE YOU WANKERS. ITS LIKE SIX HUNDRED BUCKS. JESUS.

Youre assuming everyone orders their condoms on line, which that is clearly a clearance and to buy in bulk. If you go to walgreens, walmart, and any other convenience store/seller of condoms they are very expensive for bulk packages because retail costs are vastly different from online costs (Retail stores also usually never have specific sales for condoms [nor do they have less than bulk packaging depending on your area]).

IT is, but you are ignoring the fact that the possibility is still there

I said earlier it's like 25 bucks for a box of condoms at your local drugstore, nearly 10 bucks for THREE condoms at some places. If you're smart, you buy in bulk but we ain't talking the cleverest people are we.

See how that becomes a barrier when you're paycheck to paycheck? Oh right guys, just don't have sex. Tell her you're budget only allows for three ***/month. Be responsible.

Eh... that $5 is probably spent on cheap booze to get the hobos in the mood to begin with. No wonder why they can't afford condoms. Forget food, they need booze and government funded condoms.

Only a liberal could find that phrase offensive.

Or like, food. Iunno, priorities maybe.

What about Suzy gone wild in college? If you're in college and can't afford birth control, what are you doing there besides demanding free birth control?

Paying tuition/loans?

Yet she can't afford $20 a month?

Yet you ignore how much tuition/loans can actually be? Plus other variables if mommy and daddy arent supporting you?

This specifically, is where your argument becomes more and more riddled with holes

Aww, 'only a liberal'. Do try and find more labels for me, the adherence to ideology is becoming quite nauseating when you've nothing to say.

Back in reality, the main group of people sex ed and access to birth control / contraceptive products targets are teenagers/young adults, a group well known for being the . You'd think that fiscally minded people could see the cost/benefit ratio of said programs but pesky ideology and dogma once again seems to be hijacking primary logical functions.

(It's the same reason I'll never get why pro-lifers can't back this but *shrug* religion I 'spose.)

When your municipality is going under because of sex ed, you can lecture me about why it's a terrible idea. In the mean time, pragmatic action will lower teen pregnancy rates, inform people that tools are available when you decide to have sex and dispel the myths surrounding sex.

You can continue to harp on pie in the sky, all encompassing 'responsibility'

This is definitely a worse argument than the poor hobos who have nothing left in life but their pursuit of sexual gratification.

Can afford $15,000-$50,000+ a year to study, can't afford $20 a month for a recreational activity? Sounds legit.

That's only cause it goes against this crazy idea that the government needs to pay for people to have safe sex.

You can be poor as dirt. You still get the desire to *** come puberty. What the hell universe am I in again? Is this the asexual realm? Have you guys even *seen* a third world country? lol

Both, plus food, plus utilities, plus rent, lots of other variables (Assuming mommy and daddy arent putting you up and paying stuff, and assuming there is even stuff), dont be dense about it just because it suits your delusion.