Thf DE Gear Sets?

true. SE does interpret things oddly sometimes. however i'm 100% sure that for your WS damage each and every hit is based at the DMG of your main hand weapon no matter how many hits you may have in the WS (dual wield or no dual wield). I think this to be true due to SE not letting you use your off hand weapon's weapon skills if you're subbing a different weapon class.

edit: if you notice the damage calculator doesnt ask you for off hand weapon damage. yet the damage output from the calculator is highly accurate.

You do have a good point in your first paragraph.

Never used that calculator so I have no idea <_< that being the case in the situation I gave above, it would make Hecatomb +1 win by a larger margin than previously calculated.

False.

4 str will do the exact same thing on mobs w/ high vit as mobs w/ low vit which would add 1 DMG. The only 2 acceptations are if you are at the upper or lower cap of fstr. If the mob's vit is high enough to be past your lower cap of fstr, adding str, depending on how much , may do nothing at all because even w/ the added str, your fstr may still be at its lower cap and even once you do break that cap, 4 str will still only be 1 DMG.

If you're at the upper bound, works the same, will only gain attack from str and nothing else.

Any mob w/ high enough VIT for you to be at your fstr's lower bound in the first place, your acc prbably isn't going to be capped on these mobs and the acc from dex beats the attack from str, while they both increase your DMG by 1. Dex is still going to win.

Again 1 dex > 1 str. I'm not saying use no str or to use 1 dex over 5 str, but in equal proportions, dex wins.

yeah hecatomb (insert slot here) +1 is pure win in nearly any way you compare it to another piece.

Funny how there is no mention of SA or TA in there...

We all know SA is DEX ans TA is AGI... they wanted to boost DE damage, not SA or TA, so STR would be a stat to think about for DE, not DEX or AGI because they don't play as important of a roll in the end damage for DE.

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Wrong, DE has a 30% dex mod, which is the reason that even w/o being stacked w/ SA, it is still superior to str.

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My thoughts

IMO I wouldn't DE if I had x's or mandau.

Well no, but they still have highest base DMG and I like the pretty gold dagger q.q

imo for back Cerb+1 > Cuch . 15 attack is better than 4 dex and acc but yes it also depends on what type of enemy u are facing. on most end game NM's Cuch would perform better but on merit party or normal mobs cerb+1 is better also u have to consider if u need teh extra emnity for TA.
Cuch belt is better than warwolf b/c u gain a extra dex and 10 attack over 5 str. i would only use warwolfs if ur lacking str in ur ws set up. also Skadi vs heca cap depends on if u need the extra str and if ur using TA. but in most situations i would say heca +1cap is better than skadi's.

One thing about this, even though it's 30%, at 75 it's 30% * .83 which comes out to 24.9% so it's technically approximately even with STR on non/SA assuming the 4 str/fstr rule.

Yah, DEX has side-benefits of accuracy whereas STR has side-benefits of attack, where accuracy>attack generally though.

Yeah, you sure made a point now. I thought you were actualy implying that the off hand weapon made no contribution at all to the ws damage. But idk, i still think its illogical for the off hand added hit damage be calculated with the main hand damage.



Not forgetting also that str benefit caps and caps soon on daggers, especially on merit lvl mobs (103 str with blau on colibri). So to maximize damage capping str and then adding dex could be a way to do it. Good thing that most dex stuff also comes with chunks of str.



I think of Mercy stroke, as with any single hit, as a stacked ws only. DE will outshine it on low def stuff when you solo it, no way around that. Now when its base damage is increased by 140, thats when the magic begins.

On high def stuff we shouldnt use multihits so no use comparing them. But that doesnt change the fact that single hits are better of with SA/TA. Since we are thfs, we boost their base damage by a good 140 or even more with SA only, and also make them crit.

I figured the extra acc on back piece would be more significant on mobs that dont have high def anyway. Then a 5DEX ring. Oh well, I don't have either q.q

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Id be using evisceration over DE if I had that dagger combo not that I would give up on multihit ws

I thought we were just comparing them for raw dmg, it's not like there are that many slots a thf could go pure str vs pure dex on (rings and ear maybe?)