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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:51:31  
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If they were a competent company they would announce an expansion... that is a big if !

Don't get your hopes of people.
No, no they wouldn't. They'd drop PS2/360 support and work on new content for lower levels as well as higher levels, and try to find a way to bring in a new playerbase from a new generation.

As old as WoW is, I'm sure it still has new subs coming in, Blizzard is doing something right.

Yea they aren't going to do that. That is why I said if meaning none of this is going to happen.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 09:51:48  
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Oh lord, here come the feels.

Seriously, if we ever meet in real life, I'm going to feel you right on the beak with my knuckles.

Then after we brawl I'll buy all the drinks and we can sing drunkenly in a distorted voice due to our broken noses.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 09:53:06  
Anna Ruthven said: »
As old as WoW is, I'm sure it still has new subs coming in, Blizzard is doing something right.

On the release of Warlords of Draenor their subs increased by more than 10x the amount of active FFXI accounts total. Partially because they opened up the level 90 character boost upgrade/etc. that let you get your feet wet on current content before the expac dropped.

People can talk down about Blizzard all they want, but even though they may not be perfect, they've got a much better handle on things than SE.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:53:13  
The idea they're going to make a huge drastic change to a 10 year old game to attract new players... to a game that is tough on new players...not going to happen.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 09:53:54  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Oh lord, here come the feels.

Seriously, if we ever meet in real life, I'm going to feel you right on the beak with my knuckles.

Then after we brawl I'll buy all the drinks and we can sing drunkenly in a distorted voice due to our broken noses.


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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 09:54:50  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Oh lord, here come the feels.

Seriously, if we ever meet in real life, I'm going to feel you right on the beak with my knuckles.

Then after we brawl I'll buy all the drinks and we can sing drunkenly in a distorted voice due to our broken noses.




...look, KN -might- have been somewhat accurate in his appraisal of me.


Just needs the beard.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:55:59  
The biggest troll of all time from SE would be this:

"Thanks for playing we appreciate all your support, but we are ending service in 2016 to focus on XIV"
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 09:56:04  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Oh lord, here come the feels.

Seriously, if we ever meet in real life, I'm going to feel you right on the beak with my knuckles.

Then after we brawl I'll buy all the drinks and we can sing drunkenly in a distorted voice due to our broken noses.
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-03-17 09:56:06  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
As old as WoW is, I'm sure it still has new subs coming in, Blizzard is doing something right.

On the release of Warlords of Draenor their subs increased by more than 10x the amount of active FFXI accounts total. Partially because they opened up the level 90 character boost upgrade/etc. that let you get your feet wet on current content before the expac dropped.

People can talk down about Blizzard all they want, but even though they may not be perfect, they've got a much better handle on things than SE.
I used to play XI with a former WoW GM before Blizzard apparently started handling GMs themselves rather than outsourcing to agencies or something. He was a cool guy. We both wanted to in-game marry the same woman...her husband just kinda shook his head at us both. lol
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:57:46  
This thread won't be complete without:

Yes it's worth it !
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:58:59  
That guy might be on a bridge if they announce the game is ending.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 10:00:08  
Anna Ruthven said: »
I used to play XI with a former WoW GM before Blizzard apparently started handling GMs themselves rather than outsourcing to agencies or something. He was a cool guy. We both wanted to in-game marry the same woman...her husband just kinda shook his head at us both. lol

One of my part-time LS mates is also a Blizzard employee. She's pretty awesome. She's hooked me up with a lot of free goodies (character boosts, faction changes, etc.). I actually just wish she had more time to play either game.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 10:04:08  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Oh lord, here come the feels.

Seriously, if we ever meet in real life, I'm going to feel you right on the beak with my knuckles.

Then after we brawl I'll buy all the drinks and we can sing drunkenly in a distorted voice due to our broken noses.

Sure, if Chaos and I somehow manage to morph into cute Japanese cartoon girls.

But I don't like where it may go from there so...maybe not...
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By Lakshmi.Tummie 2015-03-17 10:12:27  
I brought up recent trademarks over on BG and "Masters of the Mask" was found to be registered last October. Could be Dragon Quest related or an expansion.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 10:13:29  
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Sure, if Chaos and I somehow manage to morph into cute Japanese cartoon girls.

But I don't like where it may go from there so...maybe not...
Not my point.

You two will continue to "pat each other on the back" in a rough way until bruises happen or punches fly.
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By Fujilives 2015-03-17 10:15:04  
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Please do not go f2p. I am hoping several merge, no ps2 support and new expansion.

I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point... I'd be happy if there were never another FFXI expansion, as I'd much rather see well thought out and frequent content updates that give more options for play (as they've been doing the last couple years, and doing it really well).

Currently FFXI is in a really good place, just about everyone can participate easily in at least 'one' of the 119 gearing events, and a good share of them are quite fun.

To rebuild this playing field as well as they've done with the current form of SoAdoulin would take a miracle, and quite frankly I don't believe they'd even have the manpower to make it. It'd be a shame to watch them trash this content because someone thought ilvl 130~ itemization was more important than overall game design.

If I were to ask for one thing, it'd be more cp-friendly zones. Gringing CP in the same-old-zones or "in cave's only" is just mind-numbing, so while I doubt they'd just toss us new free zones to play in, as someone who has like a billion more job points to harvest, I'd certainly welcome it with open arms.
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By Odin.Bellincion 2015-03-17 10:19:35  
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Please do not go f2p. I am hoping several merge, no ps2 support and new expansion.

I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point... I'd be happy if there were never another FFXI expansion, as I'd much rather see well thought out and frequent content updates that give more options for play (as they've been doing the last couple years, and doing it really well).

Currently FFXI is in a really good place, just about everyone can participate easily in at least 'one' of the 119 gearing events, and a good share of them are quite fun.

To rebuild this playing field as well as they've done with the current form of SoAdoulin would take a miracle, and quite frankly I don't believe they'd even have the manpower to make it. It'd be a shame to watch them trash this content because someone thought ilvl 130~ itemization was more important than overall game design.

If I were to ask for one thing, it'd be more cp-friendly zones. Gringing CP in the same-old-zones or "in cave's only" is just mind-numbing, so while I doubt they'd just toss us new free zones to play in, as someone who has like a billion more job points to harvest, I'd certainly welcome it with open arms.

Very well put, I agree with everything you said. I still would like an expansion one more continent to explore.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-03-17 10:20:24  
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I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point
Because some of us care about the lore.
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By Jadey 2015-03-17 10:20:31  
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I don't want to speculate, but the tone of the announcement did not sound good.

Any kind of shut down/end of life announcement probably would be done via dumped out press release and not a scheduled live stream.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 10:21:23  
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I don't want to speculate, but the tone of the announcement did not sound good.

Any kind of shut down/end of life announcement probably would be done via dumped out press release and not a scheduled live stream.

You respect SE too much...having a live stream to ruin hope and dreams of players is fitting !
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 10:25:21  
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I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point
Because some of us care about the lore.

This game has a story ? News to me !
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By Fujilives 2015-03-17 10:25:49  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Fujilives said: »
I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point
Because some of us care about the lore.

Odin.Bellincion said: »
I still would like an expansion one more continent to explore.

I don't disagree new land-masses and new lore-npc-interaction would be nice, but don't see why this would require an expansion... Just introduce a new land-mass every quarter of next year as part of what we pay for with our subscription.

The mindset of expansion design in MMO's is almost always the same now: "Disgregard everything you've come to know and enjoy over the last few years, we might go back and fix it later to be playable again, but we also might not (probably not and if we do it's at our own pace and in the order we want to do it), for the time being though, buy our new stuff so you can have access to the best gear, because if you don't, you'll never catch up to everyone who did".

While 'lore' would be cool, I think it doesn't require an entire expansion, and I think it's dangerous ground to tread on such a shaky platform as FFXI. monthly fees should be MORE than enough to introduce land-masses and story, just trickle that ***in slowly and we'll sip it up bit by bit.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 10:26:28  
Fujilives said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Fujilives said: »
I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point
Because some of us care about the lore.

Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Fujilives said: »
I'm not sure why people are even for an expansion at this point
Because some of us care about the lore.

I don't disagree new land-masses and new lore-npc-interaction would be nice, but don't see why this would require an expansion... Just introduce a new land-mass every quarter of next year as part of what we pay for with our subscription, I really don't see why this would require an expansion. The mindset of expansion design in MMO's is almost always the same now: "Disgregard everything you've come to know and enjoy over the last few years, we might go back and fix it later to be playable again, but we also might not (probably not and if we do it's at our own pace and in the order we want to do it), for the time being though, buy our new stuff so you can have access to the best gear, because if you don't, you'll never catch up to everyone who did". So while 'lore' would be cool, I think it doesn't require an entire expansion, monthly fees should be MORE than enough to introduce land-masses and story.

Do you have any concept of how inept SE is ?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 10:27:58  
Frankly I'd welcome an end-of-game announcement, let it die a still marginally respectable death while it still has a dwindling-but-loyal fanbase.

But I don't see that happening. And F2P would basically just be a veiled death-of-game announcement anyhow, as the only reason they have to keep it going is because it's steady income for extremely minimal overhead.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 10:29:39  
No respectable death sudden announcement that induces rage quit !

It's like taking off a band aid just get it over with.

A band aid is basically everything SE has done to keep this game going. Oh hey let's put a band aid on this enormous lack of content and reason to play !
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By Elazar1 2015-03-17 10:34:28  
This just dawned on me, and don't think anyone mentioned this, but I'm wondering if it could be a level increase?
I really hope not but this is SE.........
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By Fujilives 2015-03-17 10:35:37  
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Do you have any concept of how inept SE is ?
Yes, which is why I don't want an expansion now (or ever again) in FFXI. I don't feel an entire expansion-scale change could be handled appropriately with what they have available for manpower.

It's my opinion that they've done a really good job 'fixing' stuff the last few years, even though it's slow-and-steady, they have carved FFXI into a really great place right now. Personally I don't think 'the dev team' gets enough credit for what's been accomplished over the last few years; if it's spaghetti-coded as much as they seem to imply, we've seen one hell of an accomplishment for a small team.

edit: apparently butchered the quote; my bad
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 10:35:43  
Elazar1 said: »
This just dawned on me, and don't think anyone mentioned this, but I'm wondering if it could be a level increase?
I really hope not but this is SE.........

This would be good ! We're sorry to announce but the armor and weapons you just got are useless please bear with us !
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2015-03-17 10:40:06  
fonewear said: »
Elazar1 said: »
This just dawned on me, and don't think anyone mentioned this, but I'm wondering if it could be a level increase?
I really hope not but this is SE.........

This would be good ! We're sorry to announce but the armor and weapons you just got are useless please bear with us !

Good, let it come.
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-03-17 10:40:20  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Frankly I'd welcome an end-of-game announcement, let it die a still marginally respectable death while it still has a dwindling-but-loyal fanbase.

But I don't see that happening. And F2P would basically just be a veiled death-of-game announcement anyhow, as the only reason they have to keep it going is because it's steady income for extremely minimal overhead.
That isn't how SE does things...



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