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Bloodrose said: » Ramyrez is Wheeler, an over-confident, cocky, know it all American who wants to be seen as cool by the hot foreign girl with blond hair and blue eyes. Also, the only Ginger that didn't get beaten as a step child. ...I have to be him, huh? I didn't consider this angle. Gracias sometimes I *** up when posting from phone lol
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Ramyrez said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » From experience however, whenever someone white goes down the road of 'i was made fun of by black people' as a means to counter racism and equate it as all the same, I see it as disingenuous and missing the point of what institutionalized racism is. While I generally disagree with you, as so-called "reverse racism" (damn I hate that phrase) does exist and can be quite detrimental in its own right, leading to lifetimes of negative mindsets over a few isolated instances...in this case, given the source, I see your point. Then again, it's quite possible it's part of what made Saev the jerk he is, sooooo.... Never said it didn't exist. I've seen enough racist religious blacks in my lifetime. However by and large they don't hold much power. Same goes for most racist brown people. Also they're being fed by the animosity heaped upon them. Whites dominate institutions and make policy based on their ideas. The pervasive one is that brown people are less than simply based on skin color and what a wonder that self-fulfilling prophecy has done for Americans in the legal system. <insert relevant "Uncle Tom" references here> Quote: Racism today is as much a function of socioeconomic issues as much as actual race. There is very little actual racism in the USA. It's gotta to be so little that people have to invent some invisible, coordinated and ever present amount of it in order to still claim protected victim status. SJW's everywhere seethe when I refuse to accept their version of the world, doubly so because I'm vocal about it and refuse to allow them to silence me. The best part is I don't even need to try that hard, just get Sparth & friends spun up and you'll do all the work for me. What seems like SJW reason to you looks like plain discrimination and bat sh!t crazy reasoning to everyone else. What you people call racism is just class strife which has been around since one human was better at hording food then another. Trying to package it as "racism" just serves to lose focus and make one set of people immune to criticism. If a rich white person discriminates against a poor black man, it's racism. If that same rich white douche discriminates against a poor white man, well they are just an a$$hole. It's ridiculous. palladin9479 said: » Quote: Racism today is as much a function of socioeconomic issues as much as actual race. There is very little actual racism in the USA. Consider my mind blown that Saevel doesn't agree with me. I could call you a red piller as you've called me a SJW, but by own admission I'm probably not extreme enough for your Tumblr types. I just can't sustain the high levels of rage needed for that theater.
If anything we've learned here is that Saevel talks with authority and expects us to believe everything he says by fiat. Cue the newest statement "the USA isn't that racist" because "people want to coordinate some invisible force to collect privleged victim status." Because lemme tell you, being a black male in America is SO rewarding. Jesus, you've reminded me the human ego really has no bounds. 'Tis ok, I think you and I are destined to this forever.
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palladin9479 said: » Quote: Racism today is as much a function of socioeconomic issues as much as actual race. There is very little actual racism in the USA. It's gotta to be so little that people have to invent some invisible, coordinated and ever present amount of it in order to still claim protected victim status. SJW's everywhere seethe when I refuse to accept their version of the world, doubly so because I'm vocal about it and refuse to allow them to silence me. The best part is I don't even need to try that hard, just get Sparth & friends spun up and you'll do all the work for me. What seems like SJW reason to you looks like plain discrimination and bat sh!t crazy reasoning to everyone else. What you people call racism is just class strife which has been around since one human was better at hording food then another. Trying to package it as "racism" just serves to lose focus and make one set of people immune to criticism. If a rich white person discriminates against a poor black man, it's racism. If that same rich white douche discriminates against a poor white man, well they are just an a$$hole. It's ridiculous. Bloodrose said: » palladin9479 said: » Quote: Racism today is as much a function of socioeconomic issues as much as actual race. There is very little actual racism in the USA. It's gotta to be so little that people have to invent some invisible, coordinated and ever present amount of it in order to still claim protected victim status. SJW's everywhere seethe when I refuse to accept their version of the world, doubly so because I'm vocal about it and refuse to allow them to silence me. The best part is I don't even need to try that hard, just get Sparth & friends spun up and you'll do all the work for me. What seems like SJW reason to you looks like plain discrimination and bat sh!t crazy reasoning to everyone else. What you people call racism is just class strife which has been around since one human was better at hording food then another. Trying to package it as "racism" just serves to lose focus and make one set of people immune to criticism. If a rich white person discriminates against a poor black man, it's racism. If that same rich white douche discriminates against a poor white man, well they are just an a$$hole. It's ridiculous. If I see a white guy wearing dirty clothes and swaggering around a low income area, I'm checking that my windows are rolled up and my doors are locked because he looks like a criminal and it makes me feel unsafe.
If I see a black guy wearing dirty clothes and swaggering around a low income area, I'm checking that my windows are rolled up and my doors are locked tldr; in a SJW's eyes racism perceived is racism received
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » If I see a white guy wearing dirty clothes and swaggering around a low income area, I'm checking that my windows are rolled up and my doors are locked because he looks like a criminal and it makes me feel unsafe. If I see a black guy wearing dirty clothes and swaggering around a low income area, I'm checking that my windows are rolled up and my doors are locked tldr; in a SJW's eyes racism perceived is racism received Which, would arguably put the people calling you racist, as racist.
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Bloodrose said: » The main difference in this argument over Saevel's is that you're not actively discriminating a person based on race, but on perceived actions, and are doing so to keep yourself reasonably safe. Which, would arguably put the people calling you racist, as racist. I'm profiling someone based on appearance. If it's acceptable for said profile to only include location/clothing/strut, then why are procedures since as stop-and-frisk under such scrutiny? The selection could as easily be attributed to the aforementioned attributes as race.
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Don't worry folks we are almost to page nine keep on keeping on !
You would need a legitimate reason to include race as a reason to pat someone down in Stop and Frisk.
And you are only profiling someone based on observable behavior - not the color of their skin. The reason Stop and Frisk is under such scrutiny right now, is because they have had a bad reputation among certain groups of cops for *only* stopping and frisking people of different color when an equally acceptable Caucasian person is right there, and they let him go. Often times, the SJW (hello, I was once pegged as one, incorrectly) will ignore certain statistics simply to cry out "RACISM!" as a means to divert the fact that many of them are being racist. If a larger portion of say, Native people were in crapshack Missouri than black people (avoiding the inevitable white person comparison), it would be understandable and logical that more native people who carried themselves in a possibly dangerous manner would be frisked. However, applying that localization into a generalization and stating quite falsely that all, or most native people act that way, would be basing discrimination upon them as a race, rather than a localization. #endracism
Did it work ? In my country racism exists and it is most definetely not only about socioeconomic status, but often about race itself.
I take the train everyday(bar weekend)and inspectors rarely bother checking tickets(which is a bad thing, but anyway). The inspector could be sitting there all day not caring, but as soon as an african person gets on the train he rushes to him to ask if he has the ticket. And it's not just the poor ones, a guy could be dressed with perfectly normal well kept clothes but if he's moroccan it's automatically assumed he's a bad person.
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The only racism I see is when people don't buy black and white cookies at the bakery.
YouTube Video Placeholder Racism ended in 2008 when we elected Obama.
Now back to electing white people for the next 40 years !
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#socialjustice.
Bloodrose said: » You would need a legitimate reason to include race as a reason to pat someone down in Stop and Frisk. And you are only profiling someone based on observable behavior - not the color of their skin. Quote: The reason Stop and Frisk is under such scrutiny right now, is because they have had a bad reputation among certain groups of cops for *only* stopping and frisking people of different color when an equally acceptable Caucasian person is right there, and they let him go. Quote: Often times, the SJW (hello, I was once pegged as one, incorrectly) will ignore certain statistics simply to cry out "RACISM!" as a means to divert the fact that many of them are being racist. If a larger portion of say, Native people were in crapshack Missouri than black people (avoiding the inevitable white person comparison), it would be understandable and logical that more native people who carried themselves in a possibly dangerous manner would be frisked. However, applying that localization into a generalization and stating quite falsely that all, or most native people act that way, would be basing discrimination upon them as a race, rather than a localization. However, certain behaviors(dressing poorly, walking like you own the city, showing disdain for policemen) may be more popular among the black population for cultural reasons. I say may be because we're severely lacking data concerning it. The statistics for stop-and-frisk don't have summaries of reason for stop. You can say a disproportionate portion of stop-and-frisks are targeting black individuals, but you can't say they were racist without accounting for the myriad of variables that may cause it. Is it such a stretch to think that blacks in certain areas may appear threatening for reasons aside from their skin color? I can assure you that very few well-groomed and well-dressed individuals are going to ever get stopped, regardless of race. #peacebewithyou
This isn't random pr.
My bad anyways racism is not going to be solved here continue if you must though !
Damn. I thought we were close.
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See the key to ending racism is to not care about it. Ignore it and it will go away just like Kim Kardashian.
That or march in Selma. It couldn't hurt for lazy Americans to get some exercise ! Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » Bloodrose said: » You would need a legitimate reason to include race as a reason to pat someone down in Stop and Frisk. And you are only profiling someone based on observable behavior - not the color of their skin. Quote: The reason Stop and Frisk is under such scrutiny right now, is because they have had a bad reputation among certain groups of cops for *only* stopping and frisking people of different color when an equally acceptable Caucasian person is right there, and they let him go. Quote: Often times, the SJW (hello, I was once pegged as one, incorrectly) will ignore certain statistics simply to cry out "RACISM!" as a means to divert the fact that many of them are being racist. If a larger portion of say, Native people were in crapshack Missouri than black people (avoiding the inevitable white person comparison), it would be understandable and logical that more native people who carried themselves in a possibly dangerous manner would be frisked. However, applying that localization into a generalization and stating quite falsely that all, or most native people act that way, would be basing discrimination upon them as a race, rather than a localization. However, certain behaviors(dressing poorly, walking like you own the city, showing disdain for policemen) may be more popular among the black population for cultural reasons. I say may be because we're severely lacking data concerning it. The statistics for stop-and-frisk don't have summaries of reason for stop. You can say a disproportionate portion of stop-and-frisks are targeting black individuals, but you can't say they were racist without accounting for the myriad of variables that may cause it. Is it such a stretch to think that blacks in certain areas may appear threatening for reasons aside from their skin color? I can assure you that very few well-groomed and well-dressed individuals are going to ever get stopped, regardless of race. The bolded is the point I was alluding to. Although skin color alone should be not construed as threatening to anyone. Carrying one's demeanor, regardless of color, grants logical reason to believe someone might be dangerous, and that protective action via locking car doors, is more in tune with what should be practiced. Between Canada and the US, Canada has just as much reason to be afraid of anything that moves that isn't us. However, even in many disparate and low income areas, many houses are left unlocked, and racism does run rampant, even if you don't hear about it (because Canada's the land of Maple Syrup, we never exhibit any kind of strife to the world). Most often times though, if you look or listen, the most prominent amount of racism comes from the Social Justice Warriors. I've never been to Canada but I"m assuming you are overwhelmed by black people !
Quote: However, certain behaviors(dressing poorly, walking like you own the city, showing disdain for policemen) may be more popular among the black population for cultural reasons. I say may be because we're severely lacking data concerning it. The statistics for stop-and-frisk don't have summaries of reason for stop. Hahaha, thank you for confirming your innate biases. And from that spawns your prejudice. Dressing poorly? Elaborate. Walking like you own the city? Elaborate. Disdain for policemen? Oh, you mean those guys proven to escalate force when you're black cause your black? As if white people don't 'dress poorly', 'walk like they own the city' (ha, yuppies) and show equal disdain when they're pulled over at the local traffic stop. All you've proven is that you have the same caricature of black people that so many more do in America and rest upon it for your flawed conclusions. Don't make me do it !
 Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Dressing poorly? Elaborate. Walking like you own the city? Elaborate. Disdain for policemen? Oh, you mean those guys proven to escalate force when you're black cause your black? Dressing Poorly: having their pants hanging off of their *** and walking around with wife beaters that have unknown stains in them when they go out in public. Walking around like they own the city: Acting like complete thugs to common strangers, taking videos of beating the ever loving ***out of some bystander (See: Slap cam) Disdain towards police: This is really self-explanatory when you have a media that sensationalizes tragedies and small examples of police brutality. Now everyone thinks it is socially acceptable to be disrespectful to a police officer, thus causing the situation to escalate.
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