Dancing Salvage Bans.

Have you ever heard of IPs? Or the fact that you may have sent things between those characters, allowing SE to understand that it's YOU playing all of them?

As I explained in an earlier post, this isn't a GM based investigation, the STF got you. They have different tools which allow for more accuracy. People who cheat will get *** by the STF.

Sure, a GM can come box you if you're fishbotting, or simply put you in jail if you're flee hacking, but if many people report you to the STF (or to GMs, which in turn report you to the STF or redirect players), you'll get banned automatically, GMs are never involved past the report point.

All in all, it's very easy to track players and their multiple accounts. The same way, it's very easy to know what people do. People have a bad habit of talking too much on forums and such, or even in game for the least intelligent.
If you were banned on the same IP/communicating characters, it's perfectly normal and I have no idea why you'd be wondering why you got caught.

You didn't answer the question. If any of that was remotely true, why would the main not be banned as well.

If a character isn't banned, it means that either 1) they made a mistake or 2) they couldn't reach 100% status.

I already answered your question in a previous post, I assumed you had read it.

No, actually you didn't.

If I'm watching the screen while a program runs, I'm not afk, so there's no legit way to know whether the inputs are from a human or not.

Short of running a search of the processes on the computer you can't verify use of a third party tool. (in this context). Obviously running fast/sliding on the ground etc is pretty easy to spot.

I just want to see some form of legitimacy. It's not required. I'm still going to complain about it regardless. No proof. No crime.

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As for the rest, you're right. If you're running a fishbot while you're watching a movie on the same computer and answer the GM tells/box, you're safe.
There are many ways to not get punished without necessarily lying, this is one example.

SE won't search your processes, so once again, you're safe.

The thing that I'm finding concerning here is the possibility that they aren't checking to see if you're there. What if a group of people decide to report you every time you step foot into a field? By your logic the STF might ban you for that even though you weren't doing anything wrong.

i kinda still believe the think tank at se hq is deadpool and sheogorath at a tea session

cool story bro

Wrong. It's Deadpool and Spiderman. They exchange witty retorts, quips, and silent monologues with each other as they beat each other with banhammer balloons.

yeah totally

and now i have a ***

As shown in my own experience example, if you have 20 people reporting you daily and you're innocent, you're fine.

I had the same people report me 4 times per week when I was doing HNM and 6 months of doing so didn't yield any punishment for me.

Server logs likely contain timestamps and can easily be referenced to show a predicable and consistent loop. Character does these 5 things in order at these time intervals, character travels between exact coordinates at these time intervals, etc. If every 8 seconds exactly, your character crafts an item, then travels exactly the same path to trade materials, then travels exactly the same path back and does the same synths at exact intervals, it's pretty obvious. STF likely has tools that look for patterns that could be bots. If you were as clever as you claim with your scheme, they wouldn't have banned the character.

I'm not anymore.

Made this clear as I'm just informing/helping/telling people, I'm not here to tell people that I'm watching their *** or anything, as I'm not.

And as someone already asked me in PM, I'm not going to forward people who deserve their *** banned. I don't care.

It doesn't matter how "obvious" you think it is. There is no such thing as actual obvious botting. well, that's a lie. There are some shitty programs that make it blatantly obvious.

However, regardless of a "pattern" it's still 100% ***. It's simply called being efficient.

There wouldn't be this issue if they were honest. Tell me what you think I did, allow me to call your ***. But that's not how they operate. Anything that even remotely resembles efficiency is now botting.

Yeah, this kind of tool doesn't exist at SE. I don't think any company uses this, it's highly unpractical (the one about patterns).

The timestamps, positions etc are a given.

The game itself doesn't let you zone if you run too fast to the other area. Or at least it didn't several years ago. You'd get a specific message telling you that you can't zone, and unless you'd log off, you wouldn't be able to zone. This message never triggered anything at SE to my knowledge and was never specifically investigated.

Where are the scores of falsely banned efficient players that don't bot? It seems like it's just you crying right now.

Just because you're ignorant to the methods SE uses to detect bots now doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Your only defense of SE not having one is that they'd be falsely banning people left and right, which clearly isn't the case.

By all means, keep crying, though. Your tears are delicious.


No one is whiteknighting SE. We're just calling you out on how stupid you're being and to let legitimate players know there's no reason to be worried about being falsely banned.

I'm still waiting on the how to get 800 currency in 1 dynamis run w/o a white proc solo. Or does magic really exist?!

Lightning Bolt!

Is magic the new name of cheats?

Magic the Bannering

With all this going on, have you tried calling SE and asking yet? Or was this over the weekend and you're waiting for The Monday, that most hated day of the week? =)

Have you ever called square? lol. The biggest waste of time and the WORST customer service on the planet. Worse than AT&T and Comcast combined. It's miserable.

I hope it isn't. I wanna learn Meteor!

You can use live chat, doesn't cost anything either. I did that when I found myself LMed one morning, and was told it was a 72 hour suspension and the reason why.

Either way, I really don't know why you're so worked up over your alt's ban. It was even quoted for you in a previous post how SE has the right to terminate an account for any reason, or no reason at all.

I used to call for all my hot-headed friends all the time and as someone who has worked mainly in customer service, not only have I seen worse, I usually get results from the SE line. Even AT&T and Comcast have nothing on what I've seen =D

Good for you, meteor costs only 80k.

(And in the past i bought meteor for all my chars for 2m each...)

80k is what $800.00ish after conversion right?

Valli is more suitable to answer that.

How the hell would I know lol. I cheat but I'm not stupid enough to pay money for gil.